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87 in omni. Great mic pre. And don't get too close.



David Correia
Celebration Sound
Warren, Rhode Island

CelebrationSound@aol.com
www.CelebrationSound.com
 
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In article <2pjc219pbe93ce076qr9vjb35u7fonai1t@4ax.com> playonAT@comcast.net writes:

> There are also things you can do to the banjo itself to change the
> sound, such as changing head tension, different bridges, etc. If the
> player is on the inexperienced side, they may not be aware of how
> these adjustments can affect the sound.

Same with drums, same with guitars (and amps), same with just about
any instruments. You can regulate a piano differently for different
kinds of music and for different players. You can use a different reed
or mouthpiece. You can use a different kind of pick.

The bottom line is that the guy has a banjo player coming over. He's
not sure what to expect. He should put a mic in front of the banjo and
record something.



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On 3 Mar 2005 10:15:11 -0500, mrivers@d-and-d.com (Mike Rivers) wrote:

>
>In article <2pjc219pbe93ce076qr9vjb35u7fonai1t@4ax.com> playonAT@comcast.net writes:
>
>> There are also things you can do to the banjo itself to change the
>> sound, such as changing head tension, different bridges, etc. If the
>> player is on the inexperienced side, they may not be aware of how
>> these adjustments can affect the sound.
>
>Same with drums, same with guitars (and amps), same with just about
>any instruments. You can regulate a piano differently for different
>kinds of music and for different players. You can use a different reed
>or mouthpiece. You can use a different kind of pick.
>
>The bottom line is that the guy has a banjo player coming over. He's
>not sure what to expect. He should put a mic in front of the banjo and
>record something.

Agreed... banjo would be pretty low on the list of stringed
instruments that are difficult to record.

Al
 
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"david" <ihate@spamo.com> wrote in message...
>
> 87 in omni. Great mic pre. And don't get too close.


But the only place I have left to put him is in the bathroom....

;-)

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http://www.m-a-m-s DOT com



> David Correia
> Celebration Sound
> Warren, Rhode Island
>
> CelebrationSound@aol.com
> www.CelebrationSound.com
 
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In article <C2IVd.74124$uc.33913@trnddc04>, MAMS\
<mams@NOSPAm-a-m-s.com> wrote:

> "david" <ihate@spamo.com> wrote in message...
> >
> > 87 in omni. Great mic pre. And don't get too close.
>
>
> But the only place I have left to put him is in the bathroom....
>
> ;-)


In my first building which was a much smaller space than what I have
now, I'd use the bathroom for the guitar amp during basic tracks.
Sounded great, except during a break when it was time for someone to
pee. And flush. Would always slay everyone in the control room when I
slipped the multitrack out of record safe.

It's only a teenage wasteland.





David Correia
Celebration Sound
Warren, Rhode Island

CelebrationSound@aol.com
www.CelebrationSound.com
 
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Mike Rivers wrote:

> I wouldn not recommend that anyone, based on advice here, purchase a
> special mic or preamp just to record a banjo.

I would recommend that anyone reading here who doesn't already have a
banjo just go buy a special one for use with their mics.

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"hank alrich" <walkinay@thegrid.net> wrote in message
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> Mike Rivers wrote:
>
> > I wouldn not recommend that anyone, based on advice here, purchase a
> > special mic or preamp just to record a banjo.
>
> I would recommend that anyone reading here who doesn't already have a
> banjo just go buy a special one for use with their mics.

What's the best banjo to use with an Sm57?

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Dave Martin
DMA, Inc
Nashville, TN
 
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On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 06:32:07 GMT, "Dave Martin" <dmainc@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>
>"hank alrich" <walkinay@thegrid.net> wrote in message
>news:1gsz19p.z0o43t1ww1ok1N%walkinay@thegrid.net...
>> Mike Rivers wrote:
>>
>> > I wouldn not recommend that anyone, based on advice here, purchase a
>> > special mic or preamp just to record a banjo.
>>
>> I would recommend that anyone reading here who doesn't already have a
>> banjo just go buy a special one for use with their mics.
>
>What's the best banjo to use with an Sm57?

One with 5 strings.

Al
 
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"Dave Martin" <dmainc@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:HtxWd.3118$CW2.667@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>
> "hank alrich" <walkinay@thegrid.net> wrote in message
> news:1gsz19p.z0o43t1ww1ok1N%walkinay@thegrid.net...
> > Mike Rivers wrote:
> >
> > > I wouldn not recommend that anyone, based on advice here, purchase a
> > > special mic or preamp just to record a banjo.
> >
> > I would recommend that anyone reading here who doesn't already have a
> > banjo just go buy a special one for use with their mics.
>
> What's the best banjo to use with an Sm57?


How much do you want to spend?
 
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"David Morgan (MAMS)" <mams@NOSPAm-a-m-s.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > What's the best banjo to use with an Sm57?
>
>
> How much do you want to spend?
>
Under $100, of course. But you didn't ask what kinda music I was gonna be
recording...

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Dave Martin
DMA, Inc
Nashville, TN
 
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Dave Martin wrote:

> "David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote...

> > > What's the best banjo to use with an Sm57?

> > How much do you want to spend?

> Under $100, of course. But you didn't ask what kinda music I was gonna be
> recording...

Banjo music, silly. Apparently cheap banjo music.

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"play on" <playonAT@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> >What's the best banjo to use with an Sm57?
>
> One with 5 strings.
>
Damn - the tenor banjo's gonna have to stay in the closet. (Actually, that's
not a bad idea in any case except a Dixieland band...)

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Dave Martin
DMA, Inc
Nashville, TN
 
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On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 17:54:35 GMT, "Dave Martin" <dmainc@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>"play on" <playonAT@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:agel211ptkd39e3gu3pamprnuv02tv3dgi@4ax.com...
>
>> >What's the best banjo to use with an Sm57?
>>
>> One with 5 strings.
>>
>Damn - the tenor banjo's gonna have to stay in the closet. (Actually, that's
>not a bad idea in any case except a Dixieland band...)

And even then...

Al
 
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"hank alrich" <walkinay@thegrid.net> wrote in message
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> Banjo music, silly. Apparently cheap banjo music.
>
I once asked the banjo player with the Nitty Gritty Dirt band why he had
paid $10K for his latest Gibson banjo (He'd just bought a pre-war Master
Tone, and had mentioned the price on a TV show). I said, "It's still gonna
sound like a banjo, isn't it?"

The sort of behavior that's kept me where I am today...

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Dave Martin
DMA, Inc
Nashville, TN
 
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Dave Martin wrote:

> "hank alrich" wrote...

> > Banjo music, silly. Apparently cheap banjo music.

> I once asked the banjo player with the Nitty Gritty Dirt band why he had
> paid $10K for his latest Gibson banjo (He'd just bought a pre-war Master
> Tone, and had mentioned the price on a TV show). I said, "It's still gonna
> sound like a banjo, isn't it?"

> The sort of behavior that's kept me where I am today...

A friend of mine fairly recently bought a special Stelling that has some
fine woods that were recovered from a shipwreck in one of the the Great
Lakes. It's a wonderful instrument, but cost several pretty pennies, and
the guy's an early-intermediate player. I suggested fancy woods might
has less to do with banjo sound than might be the case with guitars or
violins. He said, "Tony Trischka disagrees with you". I resisted saying,
"You're not Tony Trischka".

This all said, I have a confession to make. A few weeks ago I traded a
1934 Epiphone Triumph for a 1918 Gibson tenor banjo prototype. I have
never played nor previously wanted to play tenor banjo. But the first
time I laid eyes on this thing, several years ago, my sad excuse for a
mind went, "I want that thing; I wnt to play that thing". And it's
pretty damned cool sounding and looking. No tone ring, in the "modern"
sense, but the rim is a wood channel with the inner circle raised to
effectively make a wooden tone ring. So now we have a whole 'nother kind
of banjo sound around the secret mountain.

(Please don't tell Harvey, because he'll just make fun of me.)

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ha
 
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walkinay@thegrid.net (hank alrich) wrote:

>Dave Martin wrote:
>
>> "hank alrich" wrote...
>
>> > Banjo music, silly. Apparently cheap banjo music.
>
>> I once asked the banjo player with the Nitty Gritty Dirt band why he had
>> paid $10K for his latest Gibson banjo (He'd just bought a pre-war Master
>> Tone, and had mentioned the price on a TV show). I said, "It's still gonna
>> sound like a banjo, isn't it?"
>
>> The sort of behavior that's kept me where I am today...
>
>A friend of mine fairly recently bought a special Stelling that has some
>fine woods that were recovered from a shipwreck in one of the the Great
>Lakes. It's a wonderful instrument, but cost several pretty pennies, and
>the guy's an early-intermediate player. I suggested fancy woods might
>has less to do with banjo sound than might be the case with guitars or
>violins. He said, "Tony Trischka disagrees with you". I resisted saying,
>"You're not Tony Trischka".
>
>This all said, I have a confession to make. A few weeks ago I traded a
>1934 Epiphone Triumph for a 1918 Gibson tenor banjo prototype. I have
>never played nor previously wanted to play tenor banjo. But the first
>time I laid eyes on this thing, several years ago, my sad excuse for a
>mind went, "I want that thing; I wnt to play that thing". And it's
>pretty damned cool sounding and looking. No tone ring, in the "modern"
>sense, but the rim is a wood channel with the inner circle raised to
>effectively make a wooden tone ring. So now we have a whole 'nother kind
>of banjo sound around the secret mountain.
>
>(Please don't tell Harvey, because he'll just make fun of me.)

Too late, I follow ALL banjo threads!! Actually, I miss my old long
neck "Pete Seeger" style banjo (that was stolen in the 60's). It's just
too damn hard to get people to make left-handed 5 string banjos or I'd
still have one. And now, for those times when a string breaks:

Q: How many banjo players does it take to cover "Dear Old Dixie"?
A: Evidently all of them.

A bluegrass band is playing a New Years's eve gig at a local club. The
place is packed and everybody is absolutely loving the music. Shortly
after midnight, the club owner comes up to them and says, "You guys
sound great. Everybody loves you. I'd like to know if you can come back
here next New Year's eve to play?" The band look at each other then to
the club owner, and the banjo player says "Sure, we'd love to. Is it OK
if we leave our stuff here?"

Q: What do you call a beautiful woman on a banjo player's arm?
A: A tattoo.

Q: How many banjo players does it take to pave a driveway?
A: Seven - if you lay them out correctly.

Banjo Player: "Did you hear our last album?"
Friend: "I certainly hope so."

Q: What do you do if you see a bleeding banjo player running around in
your back yard?
A: Stop laughing and shoot again.

Q: What do you do if you run over a banjo player?
A: Back up.

Q: How do you get a banjo player out of a tree?
A: Cut the noose.


Q: What's the difference between a female banjo player and a hockey
player?
A: A hockey player showers after three periods.

Harvey Gerst
Indian Trail Recording Studio
http://www.ITRstudio.com/
 
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On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 19:05:51 GMT, walkinay@thegrid.net (hank alrich)
wrote:

>A few weeks ago I traded a
>1934 Epiphone Triumph for a 1918 Gibson tenor banjo prototype.

Someone got a good deal!

Al
 
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Q: What's the definition of perfect pitch?

A: It's when you toss the accordian into the dumpster and it lands
exactly on top of the banjo.

Al


On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 15:35:08 -0600, Harvey Gerst
<harvey@ITRstudio.com> wrote:

>walkinay@thegrid.net (hank alrich) wrote:
>
>>Dave Martin wrote:
>>
>>> "hank alrich" wrote...
>>
>>> > Banjo music, silly. Apparently cheap banjo music.
>>
>>> I once asked the banjo player with the Nitty Gritty Dirt band why he had
>>> paid $10K for his latest Gibson banjo (He'd just bought a pre-war Master
>>> Tone, and had mentioned the price on a TV show). I said, "It's still gonna
>>> sound like a banjo, isn't it?"
>>
>>> The sort of behavior that's kept me where I am today...
>>
>>A friend of mine fairly recently bought a special Stelling that has some
>>fine woods that were recovered from a shipwreck in one of the the Great
>>Lakes. It's a wonderful instrument, but cost several pretty pennies, and
>>the guy's an early-intermediate player. I suggested fancy woods might
>>has less to do with banjo sound than might be the case with guitars or
>>violins. He said, "Tony Trischka disagrees with you". I resisted saying,
>>"You're not Tony Trischka".
>>
>>This all said, I have a confession to make. A few weeks ago I traded a
>>1934 Epiphone Triumph for a 1918 Gibson tenor banjo prototype. I have
>>never played nor previously wanted to play tenor banjo. But the first
>>time I laid eyes on this thing, several years ago, my sad excuse for a
>>mind went, "I want that thing; I wnt to play that thing". And it's
>>pretty damned cool sounding and looking. No tone ring, in the "modern"
>>sense, but the rim is a wood channel with the inner circle raised to
>>effectively make a wooden tone ring. So now we have a whole 'nother kind
>>of banjo sound around the secret mountain.
>>
>>(Please don't tell Harvey, because he'll just make fun of me.)
>
>Too late, I follow ALL banjo threads!! Actually, I miss my old long
>neck "Pete Seeger" style banjo (that was stolen in the 60's). It's just
>too damn hard to get people to make left-handed 5 string banjos or I'd
>still have one. And now, for those times when a string breaks:
>
>Q: How many banjo players does it take to cover "Dear Old Dixie"?
>A: Evidently all of them.
>
>A bluegrass band is playing a New Years's eve gig at a local club. The
>place is packed and everybody is absolutely loving the music. Shortly
>after midnight, the club owner comes up to them and says, "You guys
>sound great. Everybody loves you. I'd like to know if you can come back
>here next New Year's eve to play?" The band look at each other then to
>the club owner, and the banjo player says "Sure, we'd love to. Is it OK
>if we leave our stuff here?"
>
>Q: What do you call a beautiful woman on a banjo player's arm?
>A: A tattoo.
>
>Q: How many banjo players does it take to pave a driveway?
>A: Seven - if you lay them out correctly.
>
>Banjo Player: "Did you hear our last album?"
>Friend: "I certainly hope so."
>
>Q: What do you do if you see a bleeding banjo player running around in
>your back yard?
>A: Stop laughing and shoot again.
>
>Q: What do you do if you run over a banjo player?
>A: Back up.
>
>Q: How do you get a banjo player out of a tree?
>A: Cut the noose.
>
>
>Q: What's the difference between a female banjo player and a hockey
>player?
>A: A hockey player showers after three periods.
>
>Harvey Gerst
>Indian Trail Recording Studio
>http://www.ITRstudio.com/
 
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Harvey Gerst wrote:
>
> Too late, I follow ALL banjo threads!! Actually, I miss my old long
> neck "Pete Seeger" style banjo (that was stolen in the 60's). It's just
> too damn hard to get people to make left-handed 5 string banjos or I'd
> still have one. And now, for those times when a string breaks:

Q: How can you tell when your stage is level?
A: Your banjo player is drooling out of both sides of his mouth.

(Thanks to U. Utah Phillips)
 
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Dave Martin wrote:

> "play on" wrote...

> > >What's the best banjo to use with an Sm57?

> > One with 5 strings.

> Damn - the tenor banjo's gonna have to stay in the closet. (Actually, that's
> not a bad idea in any case except a Dixieland band...)

I just posted elsewhere in this thread about my new tenor. When I played
it for a friend of mine they remarked that it'd make a very good Celtic
banjo. Be very afraid.

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ha