Small speaker system under $100 ^^

kevin garced

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Hello guys, once again I need help from the experienced fellars here :)
I am currently in the process of getting new speakers to listen to music in my bedroom. I currently have an old 2.1 Logitech system and am looking to upgrade. I only listen to music through the speakers and wanted to know what should I get. I looked at the Logitech Z506. It is a 5.1 system with a bass. I can not spend more than $100 and I have a $50 Best Buy Gift card that I will be using. I wanted to know if the Logitech set is worth getting over something like Sony Bookshelf speakers. If inwere to get some bookshelf speakers what would i need to use them. I heard you need some sort of amp or a reciever. I also enjoy lots of bass, since i like rap and enjoy "feeling" the beat. My current setup cost me $5 at goodwill and is by far the best ive had. If inwere to get lets say the Insignia 5-1/4 inch bookshelf speakers from best buy and an lepai amp from amazon would that have as much bass as a 2.1 setup? If i later on wanted to get a subwoofer would i need a different amp or a more powerful one? Anyway thanks for the help i would preferably want a 2.1 setup, but if a 2.0 is better ill go with that thanks
 

ssddx

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bookshelf speakers would require an amplifier if they arent powered (if they dont have a ac wall plug and specifically say they are powered speakers)

5.25" speakers are not bookshelf size. those are likely satelite sized and likely will not be a whole lot better than what you have now.

bestbuy.com has some nice pioneer and boston acoustics bookshelf speakers for about $99/pair however that leaves zero room for an amplifier.

for clarification this is a bookshelf speaker
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this is a satelite speaker.


bookshelves are bigger and have a little more bass output. however they still lack a subwoofer so might be a little lighter on bass than what you have now.

if you really want a subwoofer then perhaps you should look into either an upper end logitech or perhaps another 2.1 computer speaker set.

if you could raise your budget enough to afford an amplifier (think $20-50) then a bookshelf speaker set might also do well for you.

if you dont mind spending $100 PLUS that $50 gift card then i think you can use any of those options. if you have only $100 INLCUDING that gift card then i think you are limited to likely picking out another pc speaker set.
 

iam2thecrowe

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forget bookshelf speakers in your budget, they will sound crap. just buy a decent pair of logitech 2.1 speakers, they will do what you require for your budget.
http://www.logitech.com/en-au/product/multimedia-speakers-z443?crid=47 these sound pretty good and can be had for your budget if you shop around, the bass is decent, you wont get much better for your budget. I have an older model of logitech and the specs are lower than those, and they still deliver good enough bass/volume for music. best to go into a store where they have a bunch on display, bring a portable media player and try them for yourself.
 

ssddx

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@crowe

keep in mind that the op already has a pair of logitechs and is looking to upgrade.

that is why i suggested them as an option (and the op even listed them as an option)

of bass output or a $100 budget is a must then yes... pc speakers are likely what you need.

if all you care about is bass... get whatever the max wattage you can for the price.

if you care about good quality sound then either get a better pair of logitechs or something like the jbl creature III or another half decent 2.1 set for comptuters.
 

kevin garced

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kevin garced

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I really like that setup, and yes i know what a bookshelf speakers are, I was going off what it said on amazon. Search up (sony bookshelf speakers) and it says 5-1/4 inch. I think I can get some bookshelf speakers for $70-$100 and check if my brother can get me a stereo reciever. He has a couple and can probably get me a cheap one somewhere. Would that be a good setup. A random lets say Sony or Denon stereo reciever with a pair of Sony or Boston Acoustic bookshelf speakers. What draws my attention to the reciever is the fact that I could get a nice sub later on and not have to worry about the amp and wattage and all that shizz. If i were to get lets say thishttp://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/679032-REG/Pyle_Pro_PCA4_PCA4_Mini_2_x.html
And this http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/493590-REG/Sony_SS_B1000_SS_B1000_2_Way_Bookshelf_Speakers.html
Would that serve me well. It would be a total of about 120$ and I they look one hell of a lot nicer than the Logitech alien cubes. I can also add a sub later on and they had controls integrated which for some odd reason i prefer over changing it on my ipod or whatever. Do you think something like that would be worth it?
 

ssddx

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if you can get some nice "bookshelf" sized speakers then yes i think it could work out great.

it is possible to use a small amp (like the one you listed) and use a subwoofer IF it has speaker wire inputs also in addition to the pre-out cable used by most subs.

however, if you can manage to get a stereo receiver (with a stereo speaker hookup AND a rca cable for a sub and perhaps multiple inputs) then that might be even better yet.

by the way those speakers you posted are 10" tall (5.25 is the woofer diameter) so do classify as bookshelf speakers.

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personally i use a receiver for my own system (hover over my avatar image for equipment and click the link in my sig for a pic if you care at all) and it does give lots of options. its better than an amp if you have multiple input sources (like if you have a video game console, ipod and other sources you want to use it with not just pc.

you still need to worry about wattage and ohms. stereo receivers come in different ratings. those particular speakers you picked are up to 120w each at 8ohms which means you would want something decently powerful (i'd say 100w @ 8ohms at least) to use them at high levels

as for would it be worth it? well ever since i swapped to home theater speakers... i wont be swapping back. definitely quite a huge margin between using that over pc speakers. of course its also going to be more expensive than pc speakers in the long run. your choice.
 

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So here is my theory, the mini amp i chose says its 2x120W i imagine that means that each speaker would get a maximum of 120W. Then i see a red and white rca plug so i think thats were the subwoofer would go. And then the mp3 in is in the front which i would use a aux cable for. Gracias!
 

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i think you are getting a little ahead of yourself..

yes it says 120w however i highly doubt its 120w @ 8ohm resistance (which is what your speakers are)

likely its 120w at 4ohm or 6ohm. there is a BIG difference.

for instance a 150w @ 6ohm amplifier may only be rated for 80w @ 8ohm.

you might not get the most out of those particular speakers with a weak amp. they would likely power it however i'm not sure up to what volume levels.

also the red+white is the input (3.5mm to rca red+white cable needed) for connecting up to your pc. if you bought a subwoofer it would need speaker connections on it (so not a cheap piece of junk sub) and it would be connected to the front speaker connections just like the speakers. it would also require a knob to set the frequency it responds at (khz)

you really need to be aware of both the wattage AND ohms. i would highly suggest looking int othe ohms part on that amp as when i've looked at similar models before they were quite lacking! (do a bit more research)

 

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Thank you so much! I will probably be getting a Sherwood stereo reciever oraube even a Pyle mini amp. I looked up my current speaker specs and saw that the steallites get about 5W each. I only put them out about halfway though. I think Im going to go with a cheaper amp and if im dissatisfied ill return it and ill get a Sherwood stereo reciever from amazon, Thanks
 

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you will find that although the satellites are 5w each, you have a sub, and that will get lower bass than those sony bookshelf speakers, which only go down to 80hz. low end bookshelf speakers + lowend amp isnt going to sound real good. You would be better off getting a higher end logitech 2.1 system which often have good frequency response down to 35-30hz.
from the same site you linked: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1042859-REG/edifier_m3300sf_speaker.html
would sound better than that amp + cheap bookshelf speakers. Dont let marketing of "more watts = better" fool http://www.parts-express.com/pyle-pca4-mini-2x120-watt-stereo-power-amplifier--310-2214 the pyle amp is really:
"Power Output (RMS Per Channel @ 8 ohms)10 Watts" which is bad. Never read a "peak power" figure of any audio equipment, look for nominal power or RMS power.
 
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