Smithsonian Wants Your Vote for Gaming Exhibit

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A lot of tough choices and many epic games missing from that list.. FFVI (3 in the USA) for one, but at least they had Chrono Trigger in there.. Tie fighter made it in, which shows that at least someone was thinking things through at the time they created that list though I gotta say it took me a couple of minutes to pick between it and Diablo 2, also KOTOR, thank god they didn't leave that out! Also, weird that Mass Effect 2 made the list but Mass Effect 1 didn't.

Also, unfair to make me pick between Final Fantasy and Legend of Zelda for the NES..

Still, overall I gotta say it will be an interesting exhibition.
 
A lot of the game choices seemed pretty random. There were some glaring omissions and questionable entries. Myst was missing, which is a quick example I can think of for games as art. But E.T., regarded one of the worst games ever, was in there. It literally seems like they picked 3 games out of a hat with maybe a few token "popular" choices.
 
[citation][nom]AMDPhenomX4[/nom]As stated above, Crysis really changed graphics. If they put Half life 2 over Crysis for artistic advancement, they have some moronic workers.[/citation]

When Doom 3 came out, almost all graphic card can't handle it and this is the same situation with Crysis. Crysis didn't change graphics, it just demanded too much of it when no graphic card was up to the task.
IMO, games that make into the actual exhibit needs to have a impact on the entire gaming world as a whole, not just towards a individual. So Crysis for you may be important, but not everyone thinks that is the case. And for a game that has a strong impact, PacMan is one of them.
 
Myst and Donkey Kong Country need to make it

Both used pre-rendered graphics, but they opened the eyes of gamers as to what would be possible in the future when graphics engines would be able to render those in real time.

Myst blew me away when it first came out
 
[citation][nom]lashabane[/nom]Something is wrong with the world if FFVII doesn't make it.[/citation]

That and Light Crusader for the Genesis. Amazing Puzzle/RPG. Cmon', a Sega game long enough to have save slots!
 
Why is this focus all on graphics, anyway? It's supposed to be games as an ART FORM, not games that happen to contain artwork. BIG difference there. For a game to truly be a work of art, even the non-media aspects must be artworthy.

One game that pops to mind (which IS listed) is Shadow of the Colossus: when it came out in late 2005, its graphics, limited to what the PS2 could do, were distinctly dated compared to the then-hot Half-Life², let alone F.E.A.R., which was the Crysis of its time. But the way it used them, and told a story and gave an EXPERIENCE to match. So it wasn't what graphics it had, it was how it used them. For me, the most impressive part might've been the battle with Phalanx, the 13th Colussus. The thing was a good fraction of a mile in size, and you could see it all, no tricks. The sheer sense of scale the game managed to convey is something that no flashy FPS today has managed to match.

Overall, some of my picks worth commenting on:
*VCS, a.k.a Atari 2600 - What in the hell were they THINKING? Both Pac-Man and E.T. are on there. Wouldn't be surprised if the latter gets voted to #1 in its category through "troll votes." Both games were terrible, and best symbolized the problems that caused the video game crash of 1983. Most of their choices were good, but these two... tsk, tsk. (note to Pac-fans: Pac-Man was a legend in the arcades: the problem was that the Atari port of it was about as horrible as could be, cutting and butchering everything that made it good. Ms. Pac-Man is the Atari game that brought a much better adaptation, featuring vastly improved graphics and gameplay)
*C64 - tough choice between Wasteland and Bard's Tale III; the former won out for me. Pirates! was an easy choice; Raid on Bungeling Bay, while not quite as much a great, was also an easy choice.
*NES - Wow, they made good picks, especially for Action. Very tough, as they basically picked the NES's three most defining later-life games. Eventually, keeping an eye on how the game itself was a piece of art, I went with Metroid, noted for being perhaps the first game to truly bring a sense of desolation without necessitating description text.
*"Bit wars" (aka 16-bit/4th generation) - Where are the old late-80s/early-90s DOS games? And where are the Amiga & Atari ST? Plenty of artful games forgotten here. A major shame. A personal favorite pair for the Amiga & ST would be Millenium: Return to Earth and its sequel, Deuteros.
*Sega Genesis - Easy choices here. Earthworm Jim and Gunstar Heroes; the former was a clear example of a true take of "make a game into a piece of art." (even if very avant-garde art) Similarly, in the end I took Herzog Zwei over Dune II, as the former invented the RTS, and the latter owes a LOT to it.
*SNES - CT vs. Zelda vs. EB... One of the best match-ups too, though CT was the most artistic. In reality, an unmentioned game, Terranigma, would give it a run for its money, but this is the Smithsonian, (aka the national American museum for those who don't know) and the game was only released in Japan and Europe somehow. Also, Sim City wasn't unique to the SNES, so I favored ActRaiser, especially for its blend of strategy and action.
90s PC - Deus Ex vs. Unreal... Another tough call. As was BG2 vs. Fallout. However, due to their unique emphasis on the game as a storytelling medium, TIE Fighter and StarCraft were easier picks.
*N64 - So many problems. The platformers were a poor choice: Rare got better with age, so the cynical feel of Banjo-Tooie and Conker's Bad Fur Day really contributed much better. And where the heck is Perfect Dark? It took everything GoldenEye 007 did, and made it better.
*Dreamcast - Why is this thrown in here? It's a 6th-gen (so-called "128-bit") like the Game Cube and PS2. Sure, it's far weaker, but still...
*Modern Windows - Poor genre selections: Portal's a puzzle game, and placing it separately from the action games would've saved us all a lot of trouble in choosing!
*Missing Games - Aside from the above-mentioned Perfect Dark, there are some other worthy games left off... Though possibly, in some cases, for lack of an American release. One major glaring exception is Super Metroid for the SNES: widely considered on the console's very-short-list for "best game," most consider it better than Super Mario World. Also, where was Guauntlet? Sure, it was an Arcade-first game, but that didn't stop OTHERS from appearing. And then let's also not forget the ORIGINAL Half-Life. Oh, and Myst; why the heck isn't the world's first successful CD-based game there? Lastly, I noticedIkaruga & Espgaluda give a nod to attempts to use modern-day computing firepower to turn old-school scrolling shooters into art, though the Japanese-only Touhou Project games are likewise known for their extreme artistic (as well as memetic) value. Of course, there's still also the slew of titles for the Amiga, Atari ST, and older DOS titles that were COMPLETELY forgotten... Like all Ultima titles save one.
Wrong Platforms A lot of games were shown under a platform other than what they were originally made for, a few examples, (not counting arcade-first scrolling shooters) with the shown/original platforms: Rampart (Arcade/Master System), Flashback (Amiga/Genesis), Nobunaga's Ambition (MSX/Genesis), Sim City (Amiga/SNES), Syndicate (Amiga/SNES), Worms Armageddon (Windows/N64), Rainbow Six (Windows/N64), SimCity 2000 (Mac/Saturn), Command & Conquer (PC/Saturn), Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete (Saturn/PS1), Grandia (Saturn/PS1), Command & Conquer: Red Alert (PC/PS1), Shenmue II (Dreamcast/Xbox), Pirates! (PC/Xbox), Ikaruga (Dreamcast/X360), Knights of the Old Republic (Xbox/PC), Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time, (Xbox/GameCube) Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3 (PC/PS3). That's a lot of mis-placed games!
 
Ditto on the big list of missing games. What about the old Doom & wolfenstien games that started the big FPS revolution?
And same for RTS games on PC: C&C? TA? AoE? Civ?

Portal vs Halflife? HL won only because I played it first
 
my list would include
Pong, Pacman, gallega
dungeon quest
mario, metroid, contra
sonic, mortal kombat,
pokemon, tetris,
Wolfenstien, doom, quake, Goldeneye, Halflife, Portal
Dune, C&C, Starcraft, Warcraft
World of Warcraft, Everquest, Ultima Online
Halo, Medal of honor, Call of duty
Final Fantasy, Zelda

For the obscure, ICO, Shadow of the collosyss, Rez, Metal gear solid, Nightrap,

hmm looks like i need to head to DC in 2012
 
Voting choices on this are very limited and arbitrary. In the Xbox section they list Halo 2 but not Halo 1? Also the fact the Demon's Souls is missing from the PS3 category makes me sad...
 
[citation][nom]gm0n3y[/nom]Arg, Chrono Trigger or Zelda? Starcraft of C&C? Please don't make me choose![/citation]
To be honest, CT would readily beat Zelda; the real competitor is EarthBound. 'course, far fewer people have played it.

[citation][nom]kittle[/nom]Ditto on the big list of missing games. What about the old Doom & wolfenstien games that started the big FPS revolution?[/citation]
Yeah, pretty much all older DOS games (with Doom II being the curious exception) are strangely absent. No mention of the other, non-Id games that likewise unfolded the FPS genre, like Descent (which beat Quake as the first full-3D FPS by a year) and Jedi Knight. (the first multi-million FPS seller)

[citation][nom]kingssman[/nom]For the obscure, ICO, Shadow of the collosyss, Rez, Metal gear solid, Nightrap, hmm looks like i need to head to DC in 2012[/citation]
Metal Gear Solid is most certainly NOT an obscure title. I mean, it was the PS1's 6th-best-selling video game with 6 million copies; the only things that out-sold it were ALL Sony-published titles (Mostly various Gran Turismo games, but also Crash Bandicoot) and FF VII&VIII. The performance was likewise kept with MGS2 and the PS2, also taking #6, behind ONLY GTA titles... And, of course, more Gran Turismo. (fun fact: excepting the PS2, every major home console's best-selling title was a first-party one: in the case of the PS1&PS3, a Gran Turismo title, and for the Xbox&360, a Halo game)

I mean, I'm not saying that MGS is anything unworthy (I voted for it, after all, and do consider it the PS1's finest game) but it is most CERTAINLY a mainstream title.

Also, kudos for mentioning the original MMORPG. (though again, I warn you should qualify the PacMan as being the original arcade version: the Atari version sucked)
 
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