Tape Out of Multi-Core 20nm ARM Design Revealed

[exfileme]

ARM partners now have the foundation to create 20-nm Cortex-A15-based SoCs.

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[speakmymind]

The day people play crysis on their cellphone will be around the corner.

 

[de5_Roy]

i'd like to see the smaller-than-40nm versions in action first.

Nvidia can create their own Cortex-A15 processor-based SoCs using the "gone gold" design.

duke nukem and bulldozer went gold too.

 

[vaughn2k]

[citation][nom]speakmymind[/nom]The day people play crysis on their cellphone will be around the corner.[/citation]
And begun Angry birds 3D...

 

[spookie]

release date??

 

[Guest]

20nm ARM processors seem more exciting than bulldozer- and might even have higher ipc! Lol

 

[zzz_b]

Can't wait to see power consumption! At 20nm has to be very low.

Will be tough for Intel and AMD in the mobile platform

 

[webbwbb]

It likely will not be seen commercially for another year or so due to yield issues related to new TSMC processes.

 

[southernshark]

It won't be long until we put these inside of our brains.

Kid is bad at math...? ? ?

No problem, insert an ARM processor to do the calculations for him.

Problem solved.

 

[andyp363]

[citation][nom]southernshark[/nom]It won't be long until we put these inside of our brains.Kid is bad at math...? ? ?No problem, insert an ARM processor to do the calculations for him.Problem solved.[/citation]

Just wait till you ask him a question with a recurring decimal, endlessly speaking numbers... poor kid/adult/oap

 

[Thunderfox]

...so I guess it's not that Intel are super geniuses, It's just that AMD is at the bottom of the barrel. GloFlo barely gets 32nm out the door, Intel has announced but not released 22, and these guys are talking about 20nm already. It's a good thing AMD won the right to have its chips produced by other fabs. Maybe TSMC can make a small enough bulldozer to avoid burning down your house.

 

[jkflipflop98]

[citation][nom]Thunderfox[/nom]...so I guess it's not that Intel are super geniuses, It's just that AMD is at the bottom of the barrel. GloFlo barely gets 32nm out the door, Intel has announced but not released 22, and these guys are talking about 20nm already. It's a good thing AMD won the right to have its chips produced by other fabs. Maybe TSMC can make a small enough bulldozer to avoid burning down your house.[/citation]

Their 20nm is actually 28-30nm.
Intel's 22nm is actually 19-20nm.
C2C.

 

[dfusco]

[citation][nom]Thunderfox[/nom]...so I guess it's not that Intel are super geniuses, It's just that AMD is at the bottom of the barrel. GloFlo barely gets 32nm out the door, Intel has announced but not released 22, and these guys are talking about 20nm already. It's a good thing AMD won the right to have its chips produced by other fabs. Maybe TSMC can make a small enough bulldozer to avoid burning down your house.[/citation]

So your ego and sense of self worth is directly tied to Intel's success? Do you feel the same way regarding your favored video card/cell phone/OS ? I bet you do.
It's not a good way to be. Seek help.

 

[gmarsack]

[citation][nom]andyp363[/nom]Just wait till you ask him a question with a recurring decimal, endlessly speaking numbers... poor kid/adult/oap[/citation]

Don't you dare ask the poor kid to divide by zero...

 

[hannibal]

[citation][nom]gmarsack[/nom]Don't you dare ask the poor kid to divide by zero...[/citation]

Why there is smoke coming from his ears... Should we buy faster prosessor to our wunderkinden?

 

[ngoy]

If you read closely, it is a tape out of the DESIGN of the 20nm processor, TARGETING the 20nm process node. They can tape out anything they like. It is probably on 32 or higher so they can verify that the processor works. It doesn't mean that the actual chips are 20nm.

All confusing investor speak to try to drive up stock prices.

 

[saturnus]

Supposedly the A15 will be clock to clock comparable in performance with Core/Phenom architecture but with heterogeneous integration with the A7 will average 10-15% of power usage of those. Intel/AMD should be afraid, very afraid, to lose their entire business when these comes out and Windows 8 for ARM v7 is available.

 

[danwat1234]

[citation][nom]jkflipflop98[/nom]Their 20nm is actually 28-30nm.Intel's 22nm is actually 19-20nm.C2C.[/citation]

Source please?
So, is Intel's and AMD's 45nm, 32nm not really those values? What is a 'node' when talking about nm from transistor emitter to base distance or whatever? I thought it was the real value but I guess not, just marketing!? Maybe some of the logic has transistors that are larger than other logic components of the chip.

Thanks

 

[saturnus]

[citation][nom]danwat1234[/nom]Source please?So, is Intel's and AMD's 45nm, 32nm not really those values? What is a 'node' when talking about nm from transistor emitter to base distance or whatever? I thought it was the real value but I guess not, just marketing!? Maybe some of the logic has transistors that are larger than other logic components of the chip.Thanks[/citation]

It's not correct what he wrote. The TSMC 20nm process is a tape out which means it's a true bulk process but it's not a working silicon in the way that all the transistors are there and so on, and you can measure them but not at their intended working voltage and clock rated.

The Intel 22nm bulk trigate process is actually closer to 24nm in true bulk process because trigate/finfet technology requires larger spacing.

The intended process for 20nm manufacturing is FD-SOI, and all SOI processes are capable of roughly 40% closer spacing (a half-node leap) compared to Intel's bulk process.

For reference please check the latest AMD processors from Glo-Fo compared to Intel. The AMD processors packs transistors roughly 40% closer than Intel even though supposedly on the same 32nm process. AMD processors also have slightly lower power consumption per mm2 even though, as noted above, packing 40% more transistors per mm2 than Intel.

 

[Guest]

Numbers and names are only directly comparable if you are talking about the same technology.

As others have said above. intel's process does not equal GF's process does not equal TSMC's process. Even if they all have a *32nm process* they are very different. They dont even define *32nm* the same way.

OMG your version number isnt increasing at the same rate as xxx. Is the reason we now have a new firefox version every month when nothing has really changed heh. And the reason chrome is on version 15 or whatever when nothing major changes in each version heh.