Dell Vostro 1500, 2.0ghz core2 , 15.4in, 8600gt(im preatty sure its ddr2 and not 3...) 2gigs ddr 667. and 2 yr warrenty for 1163. sounds like a deal to me, but im not sure how the ddr2 8600gt vs the ddr3 version will do......i play americas army and Battlefield 2 mostly will i be able to hit lets say 1024x768 high or med on bf2?
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well as far as i can tell the 8600M GT won't play games very well, pretty much nothing on a laptop will play games very well...The 8700M GT which is supposedly the latest release is still only equivalent to a 6800GT on a PC and well, lets be honest, that's pathetic... Check out the table on the latest september review of graphics by tom
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that should clear up where mobile graphics stand in the world of computing
http
/www.tomshardware.com/2007/09/05/the_best_gaming_video_cards_for_the_money/page7.html#summary that should clear up where mobile graphics stand in the world of computing
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Drakennz, I'll have to disagree on your statement that nothing on a laptop will play games. I'm currently running a OC'ed 7950 GTX, (check my sig for other specs) and I hitting about 50 FPS average on FEAR, maxed out at 1680 by 1050. I can also play Oblivion at 1680*1050 with all effects on, draw distances at 75% and still hit a nice average of 45 frames a second. Turning down the resolution to 1280 increases the framerates dramatically, though I've only dipped as low as 25 FPS on Oblivion.
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Executioner-SR, x7900 extreme 2.8 Ghz Core 2 Duo Santa Rosa mobile CPU, 7950GTX 512 MB.
ODACHI... 2.66 Ghz Quad core with over 10 GHz processing power, dual GPU's, 3 hard drive RAID0 it's probably more powerful than 99% of the desktops out there right now. At 10,000 3D'06 Marks...
I think those can handle a few games, so that should clear up where mobile graphics stand in the world of computing.
lets be realistic, those laptops are out of most peoples budgets...try a desktop for the same price! You'll have scientists at your door waiting to run calculations. Even the $2000 (base) KN notebook is only running the 8600GS which is barely better than the 9800PRO I got many years ago.
The laptop listed by the original poster is very worth the price, a faster CPU would give it a better longevity. My 9800PRO was hardly breaking a sweat with my old Athlon 1700+XP.
You should check out Sager, they have a nice model with a 512mb 8600GT, throw on one of the faster CPUs, and you should be grinning wide at about $1400-1500. You could wait a bit for some good models to come out with 8700GT too, but you can always wait...might as well get something cheap and cheerful now and upgrade within a couple of years instead of blowing $3000-4000 and feeling obliged to use the same old technology for 5 years.
no offence KN guy but I dont see what your $2000 model has to offer vs a superior Sager machine for only $1400. Do let us know however if im mistaken about the performance. The parts are the-virtually- same 3rd party pieces, no manufacturing being done by either company besides gimmicky custimizations.
Bottom line: I think ya should go for the Dell
The laptop listed by the original poster is very worth the price, a faster CPU would give it a better longevity. My 9800PRO was hardly breaking a sweat with my old Athlon 1700+XP.
You should check out Sager, they have a nice model with a 512mb 8600GT, throw on one of the faster CPUs, and you should be grinning wide at about $1400-1500. You could wait a bit for some good models to come out with 8700GT too, but you can always wait...might as well get something cheap and cheerful now and upgrade within a couple of years instead of blowing $3000-4000 and feeling obliged to use the same old technology for 5 years.
no offence KN guy but I dont see what your $2000 model has to offer vs a superior Sager machine for only $1400. Do let us know however if im mistaken about the performance. The parts are the-virtually- same 3rd party pieces, no manufacturing being done by either company besides gimmicky custimizations.
Bottom line: I think ya should go for the Dell
I found this list was very helpful when choosing a gaming laptop
http/www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html
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Well the original statement made was about Notebook in general. I guess there is always a way to go back and qualify just about anything that has been said after the fact to feel like you were right.
That's silly.
A Superior Sager Machine LOL, only if you knew this industry like I, could you find that as funny as I do.
ROFL - OMG, I forgot how fun the Tom's Hardware forums were. "No manufacturing being done"???... "Gimmicky Customizations" yea, exactly. OMG, I used to actually reply to non-sense like this.
YOU GO GIRL!
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killernotebooks :
Executioner-SR, x7900 extreme 2.8 Ghz Core 2 Duo Santa Rosa mobile CPU, 7950GTX 512 MB.
ODACHI... 2.66 Ghz Quad core with over 10 GHz processing power, dual GPU's, 3 hard drive RAID0 it's probably more powerful than 99% of the desktops out there right now. At 10,000 3D'06 Marks...
I think those can handle a few games, so that should clear up where mobile graphics stand in the world of computing.
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Q6700
DUAL 7950GTX
4GB RAM
3X200GB H.D.D
1920X1200
wow thats an awesome laptop
, but with that price, ($5300) , u can get these:QX6850
2X8800GTX
4GB RAM
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Yeah, but you lose the mobility factor which is what most people want when they shell out that kind of cash for a laptop/brick. That and the shear "Holy Crap" factor of people after you tell them what you are packing and/or what you paid. lol.
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yakster :
I found this list was very helpful when choosing a gaming laptop
http/www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html
http
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I wouldn't trust that list. first of all it's primarily based on Bungholiomarks, and second the numbers they gave for the HD2600 seem very low. Mine with only 1GB of memroy and a 5400RPM drive on a T7300 gets 3536 in 3Dmk06, yet they have is as just cresting 3K, and all the other ones seem low too compared to mine.
The biggest problem with benchmark tests is that alot of people collecting them or relying on them don't check to ensure the systems are similar. Benchmarking an MobileHD2600 on a TL-50 and putting it up against a GF8600GS with a T7700 won't give you an accurate look at the performance of the VPU itself, which even on the desktop on the same platform varies greatly.
I'd say that there's no equivalent high end gamer right now (due to the lack of a GF8800/HD2900 style laptop part , which may never change), but I agree with KN, there's alot of laptops out there that are more than good enough for gaming and would destroy most people's desktops.
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Like KN said, you don't know what you're talking about.
Who says it plays like a GF6800GT, you're relying on Cleeve's list?
Second, the GF8700M series is not the top of the list, nor the limit. The GFGO7950GTX is pretty much top of the list, and then put two of those in SLi, and you have something that will handle any game out there. Maybe not as well as the GF8800/HD2900, but well enough to negate your 'nothing on a laptop...' comment.
Check out the table on the latest september review of graphics by tom
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that should clear up where mobile graphics stand in the world of computing
No it shouldn't, and if you knew anything about that list, you'd know he's not that stuck on the mobility section of his chart, it's for a general idea, not to be used as a pulpit. He does a good job, but even he'd admit his focus is desktops, not laptops.
Be sure to read his caveat: "many of the laptop chipset positions on the chart are guesstimates based on their specifications. At worst, I don't think they're more than a tier away from their actual performance but this is something to keep in mind when considering mobile graphic chipsets"
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TheGreatGrapeApe :
Be sure to read his caveat: "many of the laptop chipset positions on the chart are guesstimates based on their specifications. At worst, I don't think they're more than a tier away from their actual performance but this is something to keep in mind when considering mobile graphic chipsets"
I was wondering about that since I didn't agree with some of the rankings. I like what you said that the list should be used for a general idea.
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Well I don't want to start a craze here, as they have been started before on this topic, but the 8800 mobile GPUs will be out at the end of the year. At least that's when nVidia told me I would have mine.
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Well I don't want to start a craze here, as they have been started before on this topic, but the 8800 mobile GPUs will be out at the end of the year. At least that's when nVidia told me I would have mine.
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Haha, how many times have you and I been down this road man? Too many if you ask me.
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