What If We Only Bought American Tech?

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FLGibsonJr,
the side of the story you're conveniently leaving out is that prior to the estate tax and income tax, tarifs amounted to the vast majority of tax revenue, to the tune of about 80%.

This lack of a tax burden on the domestic side easily made up for the inherently damaging nature of tariffs, especially in an age when shipping was already very expensive.
 
This article is biased.

The physical company HQ just being in the US does not make its product also being an all American.

Also, the author forgot to mention that both Dell Adamo & Lenoxo X300 are both more expensive than Macbook Air and come with much slower DDR2 integrated graphics card.

If you notice, lately Macbook Air is the world's thickest notebook. How can a .7" adamo is thinner than a .76" rear & .16" front Macbook Air? Did the author even spend the time to take the average thickness measurement?

When you're traveling as much as I do, you'll know that it is not the thickest point that counts. Rather, the average thickness so you can avoid giving it too much stress from your other gadgets in your bag.

Don't get me wrong though, I hate Macbook Air!!! It's glossy, only has 1 USB and no FW but unfortunately, it is still the thinnest and among the thinnest, it is still the fastest. I can't wait for lenovo to beat its nVidia 9400 because when it does, I'll get one.

Speaking of all American laptop, how come Dell has to show up many times? Is it that hard to discuss an HP and Apple? Or Toms guide is not aware that HP has some pictures posted in its website and that Apple is also American?

And how about the mac wannabe: Psystar? That's also American. And how about Systemax? Even though their products are crappy, the company has been campaigning itself for being "all american" for ages. Not to mention that tigerdirect.com, its subsidiary, is very well known as a good source for PC parts, directly competing with newegg.com.

You need to do more research before posting articles on tomsguide so you don't end up misguiding.

-ND
 
This article is biased.

The physical company HQ just being in the US does not make its product also being an all American.

Also, the author forgot to mention that both Dell Adamo & Lenoxo X300 are both more expensive than Macbook Air and come with much slower DDR2 integrated graphics card.

If you notice, lately Macbook Air is the world's thickest notebook. How can a .7" adamo is thinner than a .76" rear & .16" front Macbook Air? Did the author even spend the time to take the average thickness measurement?

When you're traveling as much as I do, you'll know that it is not the thickest point that counts. Rather, the average thickness so you can avoid giving it too much stress from your other gadgets in your bag.

Don't get me wrong though, I hate Macbook Air!!! It's glossy, only has 1 USB and no FW but unfortunately, it is still the thinnest and among the thinnest, it is still the fastest. I can't wait for lenovo to beat its nVidia 9400 because when it does, I'll get one.

Speaking of all American laptop, how come Dell has to show up many times? Is it that hard to discuss an HP and Apple? Or Toms guide is not aware that HP has some pictures posted in its website and that Apple is also American?

And how about the mac wannabe: Psystar? That's also American. And how about Systemax? Even though their products are crappy, the company has been campaigning itself for being "all american" for ages. Not to mention that tigerdirect.com, its subsidiary, is very well known as a good source for PC parts, directly competing with newegg.com.

You need to do more research before posting articles on tomsguide so you don't end up misguiding.

-ND
 
Wow, this article sure brought a lot of interesting perspectives and philosophies out of the woodwork. Thanks for all of your comments. To be clear, for the purposes of this article we defined "American" as a product whose parent company has its headquarters located in America. We made no claims about the location of manufacturing, the sourcing of components, etc. Especially if the company is traded on a U.S. stock market, we feel that this meets our criteria for these purposes. I'm glad so many of you expressed interest in an article that breaks down a gadget into multiple components, which can be sourced to many other countries. We will consider doing a story like this in the future.

Rachel Rosmarin
Editor of Tom's Guide
 
The internet: American Tech.

Sorry, it'll take a lot more than TVs and Cameras to make up for that one. Keep trying Eastern Hemisphere. lol

(couldn't help myself...)
 
i would think that buying American would be against the every capitalist ideals that your country is based on

should it not come down to who is the best/cheapest

protective tariffs and government funding sounds very socialist/communist to me

for this article i would have found it more realist if all the products were an apples to apples comparison
 
butcher,

The United States had protective tarriffs from its founding through most of its history. Historically speaking it has only been recently that these tarriffs were removed. The results have been devastating.

Regards,
 
[citation][nom]FLGibsonJr[/nom]butcher,The United States had protective tarriffs from its founding through most of its history. Historically speaking it has only been recently that these tarriffs were removed. The results have been devastating.Regards,[/citation]

Protective tarrifs were more responsible for the civil war than even slavery. I'd consider that result "devastating." Right now we have our own problems, and lack of tarrifs is the only thing keeping us afloat given our economic irresponsibility.


 
In the long run, for every dollar sent overseas that is not balanced by a dollar returned, our country is being drained. All wealth begins with natural resources after all - including human labor. There is no real wealth generation in making something entirely overseas and selling it in the US because some of the money spent (ultimately by the consumer) is lost from our economy. It's gone forever unless someone buys something we make, including ideas. Easiest way to tally this is to look at our trade deficit. That's how much money every year that is gone forever from our collective pocketbooks. I'm not advocating "Buy American" but balanced trade. How many trillion US dollars does China have now? And what are they going to do with it? Buy our real estate, buy our companies, buy our government??? If they don't buy our goods and services, they will buy us.
 
u cant compare a $900 camera vs a $200. they should atleast be in the same price range. gimme a frickin break
 
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America had better hope that they never get into a war with any Oriental country like China or Korea. It would be hilarious to see American F16 fighters grounded because China/Korea/Japan implements sanctions on the sale of electronic equipment to the US.

The ironic part is that the USA trained their competition, then established factories in foreign countries "because its cheaper than American labour"....and in the process the American Government and American businesses have given a lunatic a loaded gun to use against them (Does Korea & nuclear power ring a bell ?)

The main reason for this ridiculous situation is greed. American business has to pay a skilled American a decent salary for his labour, but they can pay a Chinese/Korean/Indian a mere survival rate "because labour is cheap". In the process they have ecouraged and supported sweat shops and human exploitation. Their excuse ? They are apparently "trying to change the situation from within"...Like a previous poster has said: They have dismantled and sabotaged the economic powerhouse of the world and sacrificeed Americans on the altar of greed.

The solution would be to legislate that any company wishing to do business in the USA has to pay American salary rates to Chinese/Korean/Indian/African employees. This will eliminate the financial incentive for off-shoring and make it a pure "what is the best solution for my business" decision. Indian call-centres will still make sense because their geographic location makes a 24-hour operation practical, but manufacturing a part in Korea which can readily be made in America, might not make sense any more. It might also mean that "American-owned" and "American-made" may mean the same thing.

I see the above as a true win-win situation. As an African, I am quite willing to work for an American salary. My government is quite eager to tax me on a higher expendible income. I am sure the same applies to the Chinese/Koreans etc. This should also reduce the blatant exploitation of human beings in the so-called "cheap labour" countries.

Its high time that the American innovation, which made today's manufacturing possible, is used to export electronics to the Orient i.s.o vice versa.
 
[citation][nom]Johannvl[/nom]It would be hilarious to see American F16 fighters grounded because China/Korea/Japan implements sanctions on the sale of electronic equipment to the US...[/citation] As far as I know, most of the electronic equipment the military relies on is made in America for that specific reason. Even big business and the American government isn't thatstupid. [citation]...and in the process the American Government and American businesses have given a lunatic a loaded gun to use against them (Does Korea & nuclear power ring a bell ?)[/citation]North korea (the isolationist lunatic with the loaded gun) and South Korea (our allies that make the electronics mentioned in this article) are two wholly seperate entities. We refuse to do business with North Korea, and they refuse to do business with us, and, pretty much everyone else. [citation]The main reason for this ridiculous situation is greed. American business has to pay a skilled American a decent salary for his labour, but they can pay a Chinese/Korean/Indian a mere survival rate "because labour is cheap". In the process they have encouraged and supported sweat shops and human exploitation...Like a previous poster has said: They have dismantled and sabotaged the economic powerhouse of the world and sacrificed Americans on the altar of greed. The solution would be to legislate that any company wishing to do business in the USA has to pay American salary rates to Chinese/Korean/Indian/African employees.[/citation] This is pretty much the idea I've been parading for several years now. If the cost benefit of outsourcing is nullified, money will return to American coffers as companies hire more Americans to escape the costs of shipping finished products from overseas. [citation]Indian call-centres will still make sense because their geographic location makes a 24-hour operation practical,[/citation]...except it is very frequently that we as consumers end up paying for long-distance based service at a premium price and get very little help over what is offered on the company website, and in broken or mumbled English spoken with a thick, almost incomprehensible accent. [citation]but manufacturing a part in Korea which can readily be made in America, might not make sense any more. It might also mean that "American-owned" and "American-made" may mean the same thing.[/citation]Exactly.[citation]I see the above as a true win-win situation. As an African, I am quite willing to work for an American salary. My government is quite eager to tax me on a higher expendable income. I am sure the same applies to the Chinese/Koreans etc. This should also reduce the blatant exploitation of human beings in the so-called "cheap labour" countries.[/citation]That is a key point. Though I should also point out, this whole thing would mean reduced incentive to outsource not only to third-world countries, but also first-world(?) countries that still have cheaper labor rates and a lower cost for a higher standard of living. Either way, it means more jobs for us, less jobs for everyone else. As selfish as it seems, we need to watch our own backs before watching anyone else's, so we need to bring our GDP back into the black. We can't help anybody if we can't help ourselves, just like how on an airplane you should always put on your own respirator mask before assisting those around you that might need help...so that you can still be conscious later. They can wait a few seconds for you to help them, but you can't wait a few seconds for them to help you if they can't even help themselves. For a while, forcing American wages for all workers of all companies will drive up the prices of goods that we have come to expect at everyday low prices at Wal*Mart, but we will also have more money to spend as consumers with which to afford to pay the higher prices.[citation]Its high time that the American innovation, which made today's manufacturing possible, is used to export electronics to the Orient i.s.o vice versa.[/citation]I couldn't agree more.
Also, also a classic example. That's what first made me realize the whole labor/economy problem, before it even started becoming the problem it is today. Funny how a little fiscally-liberal thinking now and then can predict the future. You paying attention corporate big-wigs? We can't buy your crap if you give all of our money to yourselves and to other countries. That's a really great way to inject financial stimulus into the domestic economy, isn't it? Don't just spend more, spend American, not only for finished products, but for the labor that makes them too! That's how trickle-down economics works—you aren't left with anything at the bottom if all of it leaks out of the system without introducing more into the system to replace it!
 
In another word "American made product isn't as competitive" in term of pricing but if everyone stated to buy from outside then there will be job loss in the US and we don't want that to happen do we?
 
I will not pen point any one culture, I like all people.
The problem I have is that when I buy a product and it is defective, I have learn another language in order to take care of the problem.
Halve of the time it takes 2 or 3 times calling to get it right.
I do understand that most of them have the best products, only as far as electronics, however when I buy it here I want it fixed here. IS IT NOT ENOUGH THAT WE LET THEM SELL THEIR PRODUCTS HERE?
 
Did this article actually try to tell everyone reading it that the Xbox 360 "American", even though it's really made in China like nearly everything else these days? What the hell.
 
Many things come into play in this dilemma. 1st is the cost of living for American workers, aka the price of food, fuel, homes, clothing, transportation, education, and utilities just to name a few. If we could lower them all to 1967 levels and put our wages at 1977 levels we could make all of this stuff here, but nobody wants to lower their costs/wages. It all has to happen at the same time for it to really work. Computers and the robots they control build most of the pc boards in our PC's and our cars now. So why can't we do that here. Most of the reason these corporations really had for moving overseas was our strict environmental and labor laws. But hey, who really needs clean air and water and safe working conditions anyway? We can put the blame for most of these higher prices/costs on the greed of the stock and futures markets.
It is safe to blame most of China's environmental woe's we have seen on them as well. And the many corrupt officials within both American and Chinese governments.
 
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