its true.. you wont get 'the best' for $250
but the same can be said if you paid $25,000
the government has to make the best of the best speakers to listen for aliens.
really.. most of the high resolution recording is done with computers, and if anything 'weird' is recorded - it is analyzed on the computer and listened to with speakers if by choice.
and searching through speakers designed specifically for the computer isnt going to give the best results.
even the studio monitors made for computers arent as high quality as what you can purchase for the home theater.
i havent heard the m-audio av40's
but i am sure they are using speakers from the 'list' of upgrades that are being pushed out into the economy.
i purchased a pair of midrange's for $35
they go into a home speaker set that cost $2,000 a pair
the same speakers are also found in the center channel and surround speakers.
those are $450 each
okay.. the tower speakers have two in the front and one in the rear.
and the center/surround has two of the speakers in one cabinet.
i put one speaker in each three-way speaker (one on each side)
i got the quality of the expensive speakers for $35 without having to purchase the whole thing for $2,000
its a bit silly.. but there are speakers that have better details if you are willing to purchase just the speakers and hook them up to an amplifier of your choice.
if i had you build a pair of speakers that are supposed to sound better than the m-audio av40's
you would have to try and build some boxes .. purchase an amplifier .. and still need tweeters and a crossover.
it would cost more than $180 altogether.
and that is the strong competition of building things in mass quantities.
those m-audio av40's have parts that are bought at wholesale prices.
so they can get you an amp and a box to put the speakers in cheaper because they have purchased enough parts to build like 3,000 of them.
that makes my arguement seem pointless and a waste of time.
but the FUN is having some speakers that sound so good that you would be willing to smash those m-audio av40's with a hammer.
that is about where i am at.
willing to spend 30% more for parts so that the final result sounds better.
rishiguru is right.. if you are gonna buy some pre-built speakers, you will get the best frequency response if the set comes with a subwoofer.
you cant purchase three way computer speakers.
they are all two way speakers with a subwoofer for the bass.
my speakers dont have a subwoofer.. but there is a 12 inch subwoofer in each speaker cabinet already.
of course i have more bass, but i had to buy the parts and put them together like legos.
i was able to purchase my 12's from my cousin.
i think i paid $100 for both speakers and a home made box that he built and carpeted for the trunk of a car.
the whole point of purchasing something is to get what you want to make you happy.
and you have asked for deep solid bass.. that is sometimes hard to find with pre-built hardware.
if you want speakers that have lots of details, they probably wont have any bass at all and you will be forced to purchase a subwoofer.
and if you are shopping for a subwoofer, there are lots of options that dont play really deep bass.. because the subwoofer box isnt tuned low enough.
its a game of knowing what you want, and then dodging all of the obstacles thrown at you when you start shopping.
and you know.. its only like this so there isnt only 10 - 12 different things to choose from.
people get what they deserve because they dont research the products before they buy them.
instead, they have something and they are unhappy with it.
the gather what they are unhappy about and start searching for a new product that doesnt have the same problems.
its fun as long as you arent forced to purchase something and are forced to keep what you dont like.
with all of that said.. how deep and low do you want to go?
what kind of clarity are you looking for from the midrange and tweeters?
does it have to be audiophile detail/clarity .. or does it simply have to play a wide frequency response?
i would strongly suggest that you use a frequency generator to determine exactly how low you want the bass to go.
because there are lots and lots of speakers that stop at about 35hz
some even stop as high as 40hz
a subwoofer is supposed play from 10hz - 30 or 40hz
but many of them only play 30hz - 40hz
sure, they go higher than 40hz.. but the speakers you are going to match the subwoofer with can play those frequencies already.
you can use this frequency generator:
http/www.trueaudio.com/rta_abt1.htm
the generator is on the left.
you put in what frequency you want.. make sure 'sine' button is selected.
then press the on/off button.
i dont know how you are going to use it if you dont have speakers or headphones that can play the bass.. but it would help us make the right choices to ensure you are happy with what we suggest.
and also be well informed, that, regardless of which speakers we suggest.. you wont get the full experience unless you get a calibration microphone to calibrate an equalizer so the frequency response is flat.
of course, if a speaker has details, you are going to hear those details without calibrating an equalizer.
i think there are a lot of speakers out there that dont have any extra details.
and all you can do is calibrate an equalizer to try and get the frequency response flatter.
audio isnt easy if you dont care to take the steps needed to get quality results.
there are more products designed to simply make listening to music possible.
it has nothing to do with the listening experience being enjoyable.
instead, the audio industry has decided that people are going to want bass with their music and movies.. so they simply add a subwoofer.
it doesnt mean the subwoofer works like its supposed to.
no.. no.. no..
the subwoofer is there because the 3 inch speaker doesnt make any bass at all.
a stock car radio would have more bass than lots of the computer speakers and home theaters in a box.
BOSE was the first company to help people who wanted to enjoy the listening experience.
these people wanted more than some speakers that worked simply for the sake of having audio.
its like saying you want a car.. but you want to enjoy driving it.
there are lots of cars that allow you to drive from one place to the other.
but they are slow.. the suspension is too stiff (lots of harsh bumps)
the suspension isnt balanced (you turn a corner and the car bounces)
two engines.. both are the same size, but one runs out of gas faster than the other one.
one car often gets stuck in the snow.. another one doesnt.
these are just the BASICS.
there are other things like quality of materials used to create the interior.
a dedicated oil pressure needle to tell you that you are low on oil (compared to a light)
a small computer to tell you how many miles you have left before you run out of gas.. what direction you are going.. how hot/cold it is outside.. what your current gas consumption is.
headlights that work, but shine into other peoples eyes (compared to headlights that work, but dont shine into other peoples eyes)
these are known as variables.
people looking for speakers need a form to fill out so we know what they want.
you said you want deep bass, how deep do you want to go?
how detailed do the vocals need to be?