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In article <QPWdnVAQoq9K0YjfRVn-1w@csinet.net>,
"VastFear" <vastfear@csinet.net> wrote:

> Newsgroups seems so much easier... everything is in 1 group scroll
> down/click and read... not spread out over 10 pages of subcatagories then if
> you post something you have to remember where you posted... bah... maybe I
> am lazy :)

That is why I don't get involved in web based forums. So many so spread
out, and not enough content to make it worth it. eventually, all the
same subjects make their rounds. Plus also, for those of us who only
have dial-up, html prettiness and java bouncyness take longer to
download.

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In article <l-ednevZ_-fxvIjfRVn-tQ@comcast.com>,
"Spitfire 1500" <s1500@comcast.net> wrote:

> The newsgroup seems deader to me since i filter out all the FS: and FA:
> posts. Sad when a newsgroup ends up being 90% capitalism.

But for at least this forum, there has always been a high presence of
selling. Back before ePay, this was THE place to buy, sell and trade
the classic games.

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In article <SKydnRYiNpmlmYjfRVn-hQ@buckeye-express.com>,
"Aaron R. Schnuth" <aaron@DONT.schnuth.SPAM.com.ME> wrote:

> but you don't stay as active in it when you no
> longer come home from the thrifts every weekend with a bunch of new stuff.

No pun intended, right?
 
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"Liam Busey" <buseyl@yahoo.com> wrote in
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> Changing gears, I believe RGVC has declined with the rise of Ebay. Not
> only are rare items easier to find and thrifts more frequently
> pillaged but this place has turned into a freakin marketplace group.
> Without filters , it's visually difficult to scan for posts related to
> the hobby.
>

Oh, yeah, I'd completely discounted that. No point in doing newsgroup
auctions anymore, that's for sure.



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jt august <starsabre@att.net> wrote in news:starsabre-FC6779.12333318022005
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>> The newsgroup seems deader to me since i filter out all the FS: and FA:
>> posts. Sad when a newsgroup ends up being 90% capitalism.
>
> But for at least this forum, there has always been a high presence of
> selling. Back before ePay, this was THE place to buy, sell and trade
> the classic games.
>

True, but it was always a touchy subject. How many times
did someone try to propose a rec.games.video.classic.marketplace?


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"jt august" <starsabre@att.net> wrote in message
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>
>> but you don't stay as active in it when you no
>> longer come home from the thrifts every weekend with a bunch of new
>> stuff.
>
> No pun intended, right?

Well, thrift store purchases are new to me anyway. :)

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In article <Xns9601CC0CC2DA9linkvb06SpammersWill@204.186.200.105>,
"Aaron J. Bossig" <linkvb06@SpammersWillBeExecuted.ptd.net> wrote:

> jt august <starsabre@att.net> wrote in news:starsabre-FC6779.12333318022005
> @netnews.worldnet.att.net:
>
> >> The newsgroup seems deader to me since i filter out all the FS: and FA:
> >> posts. Sad when a newsgroup ends up being 90% capitalism.
> >
> > But for at least this forum, there has always been a high presence of
> > selling. Back before ePay, this was THE place to buy, sell and trade
> > the classic games.
> >
>
> True, but it was always a touchy subject. How many times
> did someone try to propose a rec.games.video.classic.marketplace?

Too many. I seldom weighed in, but I never minded the marketplace
aspect here. I do, however, still object to posting an item for sale if
it is up for bids on eBay. If it is a single Buy It Now price, OK. But
if it has a bid and BIN, most likely by the time many or most see it,
the BIN price is already gone due to bids, and thus it should be flagged
FA, or state eBay in the subject.

And honestly, with all respectable readers having filters, I never
understood the issue. I almost never see spam thanks to my filters
doing their job.

And thinking back to the days of old and selling, anyone know whatever
happened to sssssspacedhead - er - sssssspacewalk?

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"jt august" <starsabre@att.net> wrote in message
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> And thinking back to the days of old and selling, anyone know whatever
> happened to sssssspacedhead - er - sssssspacewalk?
>
> jt

I thought he morphed into BGG...
 
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On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 14:32:05 GMT, "Dane L. Galden"
<chigroup(at)ix.netcom.comCHANGE(at)TO@> wrote:

>
>"jt august" <starsabre@att.net> wrote in message
>news:starsabre-0A8165.08131719022005@netnews.worldnet.att.net...
>> And thinking back to the days of old and selling, anyone know whatever
>> happened to sssssspacedhead - er - sssssspacewalk?
>>
>> jt
>
>I thought he morphed into BGG...

No way. sssssssssspacewalk was someone with a ton of $$$ that bought
what he wanted. I remember when he bought an Adventure Vision off
ebay and pissed off a bunch of the regulars around here. I miss those
soap opera days, any little thing would cause turmoil in this
group...usually all the whining done by dorks without a penny to their
name crying about "the love of the hobby".

There were some real characters that passed through here. Doopdoops,
Paul Smith, Terry Ortman and the Maverick vs. Novak wars were
priceless.
 
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Turbo-Torch <vairxpert@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1l3f11t92v1rcf89fmtgvpufpphlrelo4r@4ax.com:

> On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 14:32:05 GMT, "Dane L. Galden"
> <chigroup(at)ix.netcom.comCHANGE(at)TO@> wrote:
>
>>
>>"jt august" <starsabre@att.net> wrote in message
>>news:starsabre-0A8165.08131719022005@netnews.worldnet.att.net...
>>> And thinking back to the days of old and selling, anyone know
>>> whatever happened to sssssspacedhead - er - sssssspacewalk?
>>>
>>> jt
>>
>>I thought he morphed into BGG...
>
> No way. sssssssssspacewalk was someone with a ton of $$$ that bought
> what he wanted. I remember when he bought an Adventure Vision off
> ebay and pissed off a bunch of the regulars around here.

Wasn't that Buyatari? I thought spacewalk was just a guy who posted
all sorts of unintelligible FS/FA posts. I don't think money was one
of his assets... everything he wanted to buy, he asked for it cheap.

Anyway, he wasn't BGG, I don't think.

>I miss those
> soap opera days, any little thing would cause turmoil in this
> group...usually all the whining done by dorks without a penny to their
> name crying about "the love of the hobby".

Yeah, we were as vocal as MLB fans during the mid-90s. ;-)

> There were some real characters that passed through here. Doopdoops,
> Paul Smith, Terry Ortman and the Maverick vs. Novak wars were
> priceless.

Don't forget Cyberyogi, the guy who invented a religion out of Star Trek
and Atari games.



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On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 20:18:32 -0600, "Aaron J. Bossig"
<linkvb06@SpammersWillBeExecuted.ptd.net> wrote:

>Turbo-Torch <vairxpert@hotmail.com> wrote in
>news:1l3f11t92v1rcf89fmtgvpufpphlrelo4r@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 14:32:05 GMT, "Dane L. Galden"
>> <chigroup(at)ix.netcom.comCHANGE(at)TO@> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"jt august" <starsabre@att.net> wrote in message
>>>news:starsabre-0A8165.08131719022005@netnews.worldnet.att.net...
>>>> And thinking back to the days of old and selling, anyone know
>>>> whatever happened to sssssspacedhead - er - sssssspacewalk?
>>>>
>>>> jt
>>>
>>>I thought he morphed into BGG...
>>
>> No way. sssssssssspacewalk was someone with a ton of $$$ that bought
>> what he wanted. I remember when he bought an Adventure Vision off
>> ebay and pissed off a bunch of the regulars around here.
>
>Wasn't that Buyatari? I thought spacewalk was just a guy who posted
>all sorts of unintelligible FS/FA posts. I don't think money was one
>of his assets... everything he wanted to buy, he asked for it cheap.

Spacewalk did buy some high dollar items including a VERY expensive
Adventure Vision.
Buy Atari was probably the biggest spender on classics I've ever seen.
I often wonder how their investments turned out now that the
collecting craze has bottomed out.

>Anyway, he wasn't BGG, I don't think.

Not a chance. SatanShoe yes, but not sssssspacewalk. Wonder where
BGG has been lately?


>>I miss those
>> soap opera days, any little thing would cause turmoil in this
>> group...usually all the whining done by dorks without a penny to their
>> name crying about "the love of the hobby".
>
>Yeah, we were as vocal as MLB fans during the mid-90s. ;-)
>
>> There were some real characters that passed through here. Doopdoops,
>> Paul Smith, Terry Ortman and the Maverick vs. Novak wars were
>> priceless.
>
>Don't forget Cyberyogi, the guy who invented a religion out of Star Trek
>and Atari games.

Oh man, how did I forget the pee drinker!
 
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In article <1l3f11t92v1rcf89fmtgvpufpphlrelo4r@4ax.com>,
Turbo-Torch <vairxpert@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Maverick vs. Novak wars were priceless.

Oh, Novak. I forgot about that smeg-for-brains. My one and only
newsgroup auction, he had one of his plants (or was it him from a
different addy) bid and win some stuff, then of course renege on
payment, and blather my home phone and snail mail addy all over this and
a few other newsgroups, hoping to get no one to pay up (his plant was
the only one who didn't pay).

I just did a google search on his site, and found that he is long out of
business (404 on io.com).

Mav wasn't the only one who had a squabble with him around here.

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Turbo-Torch <vairxpert@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> Spacewalk did buy some high dollar items including a VERY expensive
> Adventure Vision.
> Buy Atari was probably the biggest spender on classics I've ever seen.
> I often wonder how their investments turned out now that the
> collecting craze has bottomed out.

Buyatari is actually the co-founder of East Coast Gaming Expo, first show
wouldn't have happened without him. His money is well spent, he has some
VERY impressive items in his collection. And he's collecting them as much
as ever. 8*)

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Chuck Whitby <intvsama@verizon.net> wrote in
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> Turbo-Torch <vairxpert@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:nitf115ugjibjlscivr5mm7ji0131hej8q@4ax.com:
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>> Spacewalk did buy some high dollar items including a VERY expensive
>> Adventure Vision.
>> Buy Atari was probably the biggest spender on classics I've ever
>> seen. I often wonder how their investments turned out now that the
>> collecting craze has bottomed out.
>
> Buyatari is actually the co-founder of East Coast Gaming Expo, first
> show wouldn't have happened without him. His money is well spent, he
> has some VERY impressive items in his collection. And he's collecting
> them as much as ever. 8*)

He really should have a museum website, if he doesn't already.

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Aaron J. Bossig wrote:
> Chuck Whitby <intvsama@verizon.net> wrote in
> news:Xns96031FB2E6B4Bintvsamaverizonnet@130.81.64.196:
>
>
>>Turbo-Torch <vairxpert@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>news:nitf115ugjibjlscivr5mm7ji0131hej8q@4ax.com:
>>
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>>>Spacewalk did buy some high dollar items including a VERY expensive
>>>Adventure Vision.
>>>Buy Atari was probably the biggest spender on classics I've ever
>>>seen. I often wonder how their investments turned out now that the
>>>collecting craze has bottomed out.
>>
>>Buyatari is actually the co-founder of East Coast Gaming Expo, first
>>show wouldn't have happened without him. His money is well spent, he
>>has some VERY impressive items in his collection. And he's collecting
>>them as much as ever. 8*)
>
>
> He really should have a museum website, if he doesn't already.
>

Adam has touched on this in the past over on Digital Press, he has a
vast amount of prototypes as well, that he's talked about someday
creating a website for his rarities to showcase. I think he's just a
very busy guy & doesn't get around to all that just yet.

But yeah he's still very active in his spending. I've bid against him in
the past too, :eek: He's one Atariage/DP almost daily.

Spacewalk sort of drifted away, maybe just a change in username. His
ebay handle was ssspacewalk@aol.com or however you spell it at one time,
maybe he still buys/sells just as a different user?

But TT is correct, Spacewalk spent somewhere in the neighborhood of
$2500 on an Adventure vision, he did spend some serious money as well.
But most of his posts to this newsgroup were spam to his ebay auctions.
 
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I stumbled on an old poll I posted at the dawn of the millennia. I have
edited it to update it a bit, and will post it later this week to gage
the participation of this newsgroup. Let's see how dead it really is
around here.

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> But the forums are so spread out they have a group for every subject. One
> would have to spend all day just to read the latest threads.......
> Newsgroups seems so much easier... everything is in 1 group scroll
> down/click and read... not spread out over 10 pages of subcatagories

But see... you don't know. In both the AA and DP web forums you just click
"show posts since last visit". It puts everything in 1 group scroll
down/click and read with no subcategories! JUST LIKE YOU SAID.

> then if
> you post something you have to remember where you posted... bah... maybe I
> am lazy :)

You don't have to remember anything. You just click "view my posts"! IT'S
TAILOR MADE FOR THE LAZY. :)

Pitting usenet groups vs. web forums against each other is sort of like
"preferring" a screwdriver to a hammer. They're both just different
discussion tools. Use them.

This ng died when the web became prevalent. The average joe new collector
has no reason to undergo the slightly additional effort learn about Usenet
(well... maybe for binaries if they wanted). But anyway, that's just the way
it goes.
 
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In article <h9udnazMtPyBYYffRVn-vw@comcast.com>,
"Room88" <Yenc@power-post.org> wrote:

> This ng died when the web became prevalent. The average joe new collector
> has no reason to undergo the slightly additional effort learn about Usenet
> (well... maybe for binaries if they wanted). But anyway, that's just the way
> it goes.

OK, so this brings out what some long timers liked about the newsgroups
vs. web groups. Some of us date back to the daze of the computer BBS
systems. Back in the day, when 1200 baud was high speed, and Z-Modem
was the newest thing for resumable downloads if your kid brother or
sister picked up the phone while you were downloading a game.

Newsgroup posts were the internet's next best thing to the old BBS
forums. No web based group I have seen comes close to the look and feel
of an old BBS with ASCII text. Yahoo Groups in the mail box will all of
a day's posts in a particular forum compiled as a single e-mail is kinda
like some WWIV/Hermes based boards to a vague degree, but reading
newsgroups with a text only newsreader is the closest to that old look
and feel.

And most of the kids of those days are adults who have moved on to other
interests and obligations, and kids today are weaned on the web out of
the shoot.

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In article <QPWdnVAQoq9K0YjfRVn-1w@csinet.net>,
"VastFear" <vastfear@csinet.net> wrote:

> But the forums are so spread out they have a group for every subject. One
> would have to spend all day just to read the latest threads....... and is it
> me? (being an old school web design guy) or is PHP generic and loads bad...
> I think websites should visual not same PHP template look everytime...

The problem I have is with the "new messages" markers in those PHP
boards. If you idle for fifteen minutes while reading a particularly
long thread, BOOM all your new messages pointers are gone. With Usenet,
your newsreader (with the help of your server providing unique message
numbers) keeps track of exactly which ones you've read and haven't read.
 
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Looks like I started posting in '95 and trailed off a few years later,
fwiw, and was surprised to come to this thread and only see about four
names I recognized right off. It is kinda sad.

If I had to guess, the explosion of the group happened due to the fact
that most schmoes of about the right age to be nostalgic about the 2600
and other 'real' classic consoles hit college about the same time
usenet was starting to be a force. There really wasn't any better
place than usenet to talk about classic consoles -- nor any eBay to
sell them. ASCII auctions were a pretty fun draw, imo.

Of course that generation has slowly had other priorities crop up --
the end of school, jobs, families. We've also found other outlets for
nostalgic gaming. Heck, in 95 the only emu for the 2600 on the Mac was
from the Activision Action Pack, and you had to hack it in a hex editor
to get in a new game. Now we can play 2600 games on our Gameboys, much
less our PCs. And, thirdly and finally, usenet is getting less
popular, which is a real shame. Tin still does a much better job of
communicating than, say, the AtariAge discussion boards, but the
learning curve for tin is quite a bit higher than a message board in
your browser. Daggummit, kids these days just don't know what they're
missing by not Kermit-ing into a VAX machine from home.

Anyhow, that's my off the cuff guess for why rgvc isn't quite what it
used to be. I wish it weren't so.

Ruffin Bailey