when i create a 'theme'

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for a program and tell it to search for all upcoming shows, none of the
shows listed will have a RED dot on them showing them to be selected for
recording, whether the full dot or holey dot (non-guaranteed). is this
correct. am i supposed to see the list in the theme, then go pick the ones
i want to tape?

for example, i setup to find 'crossing jordan' shows. the scan found lots
of them. so i setup a theme. none of the shows REDed and the very first
one that it should have recorded didnt. the next morning i noticed that, so
i fiddled around and found 3 different times or stations that i could setup
as a show-based recording which would give me the RED dots. now i have in
the show menu an entry for a 'theme-based' crossing jordan that has lots of
RED shows and the other 3 show-based items for the individual ones they
found.

im obviously confused. so why do i want a theme-based selection if they
never will setup to record by themselves. seems like it merely finds them
but i have to go back and the tell it to record the ones i want and when i
do that it makes the show-based item that it would have if i hadnt fiddled
with making a theme.

help.

jim
 
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On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 19:55:10 GMT, "jim sturtz" <jim@sturtzs.com>
wrote:

>for a program and tell it to search for all upcoming shows, none of the
>shows listed will have a RED dot on them showing them to be selected for
>recording, whether the full dot or holey dot (non-guaranteed). is this
>correct. am i supposed to see the list in the theme, then go pick the ones
>i want to tape?
>
>for example, i setup to find 'crossing jordan' shows. the scan found lots
>of them. so i setup a theme. none of the shows REDed and the very first
>one that it should have recorded didnt. the next morning i noticed that, so
>i fiddled around and found 3 different times or stations that i could setup
>as a show-based recording which would give me the RED dots. now i have in
>the show menu an entry for a 'theme-based' crossing jordan that has lots of
>RED shows and the other 3 show-based items for the individual ones they
>found.
>
>im obviously confused. so why do i want a theme-based selection if they
>never will setup to record by themselves. seems like it merely finds them
>but i have to go back and the tell it to record the ones i want and when i
>do that it makes the show-based item that it would have if i hadnt fiddled
>with making a theme.
>
>help.
>
>jim
>

Theme channels do record (when it's searching, select "create theme
channel"), except they are low priority compared to those recordings
you've set up manually. Theme channel shows are NOT indicated in the
guide (like with red dots). Note that DVArchive does show them on your
computer (with red squares).

I have about 50 theme channels, and if they didn't record I would have
known that several years ago.

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Here in alt.video.ptv.replaytv,
General Kireiko <douglas@panix.com> spake unto us, saying:

>2. Theme recordings. These are recordings which are based upon key-words
>or show titles you provide to the Replay. They will never have dots on
>them.

I really wish the ReplayTV folks would place *some* sort of indicator
in the schedule for those shows which match a current theme channel.

My suggestion would be a red or grey-colored indicator (depending on
whether or not that theme item is still good to record or overridden
by something else), or perhaps a number representing its theme priority
or something. The code to implement it can't be that difficult...

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On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 18:44:26 -0500, rsteiner@visi.com (Richard
Steiner) wrote:

>Here in alt.video.ptv.replaytv,
>General Kireiko <douglas@panix.com> spake unto us, saying:
>
>>2. Theme recordings. These are recordings which are based upon key-words
>>or show titles you provide to the Replay. They will never have dots on
>>them.
>
>I really wish the ReplayTV folks would place *some* sort of indicator
>in the schedule for those shows which match a current theme channel.
>

That would be a good thing to do. For one thing, it would let you
verify you just created a theme channel.

>My suggestion would be a red or grey-colored indicator (depending on
>whether or not that theme item is still good to record or overridden
>by something else), or perhaps a number representing its theme priority
>or something. The code to implement it can't be that difficult...

How about a square, like DVArchive uses for this?

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>Of course they won't. There are two types of recordings on Replays (talking
>50xx and 55xx series here), Red-Dot recordings and Theme recordings.

A couple of questions:

1. If you set-up a 'Red Dot' recording that will cause a theme show
not to record, is there any warning?

2. Can you mix theme recordings and red dot recordings in the priority
list, of do red dot recordings *always* trump themes?

I'm curious because I'm coming from the TiVo background where things
are a bit different. 'Double dot' recordings sound pretty much like a
TiVo 'Season Pass', and themes are kind of like a watered down
'Wishlist'. Single dot recordings are the same - a manual, one-time
record selection.

On a TiVo if setting up a one time recording will bump an SP or WL it
warns you during the selection. Same for setting up a new SP.

And SPs and WLs are handled in the same priority system so you can mix
them up and use an SP when you want and a broader WL when needed, and
you can have higher ranked WLs trump SPs (so it'd be like themes
trumping double-dots) if that's how you want it.

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On 21 Jun 2004 23:07:05 GMT, MegaZone spoketh

>>Of course they won't. There are two types of recordings on Replays (talking
>>50xx and 55xx series here), Red-Dot recordings and Theme recordings.
>
>A couple of questions:
>
>1. If you set-up a 'Red Dot' recording that will cause a theme show
> not to record, is there any warning?

No.
>
>2. Can you mix theme recordings and red dot recordings in the priority
> list, of do red dot recordings *always* trump themes?

No.

Consider getting DVArchive for your computer. Even if you have no plans
on transferring shows to your computer, it'll give you a much better
picture of what's going to be recorded when, and what conflicts you have
regardless of them being "red dots" or themes.


Lars M. Hansen
http://www.hansenonline.net
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thanks to all that helped straighten me out. i thot the themes recorded but
when the 1 show didnt i wasnt sure. i know when i see the red-dots those
are to be recorded and wasnt trusting the text statement that it was gonna
versus the visual cue of the red dots.
 
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General Kireiko <douglas@panix.com> wrote:

> DNNA predicts they will sell off their stock of DVRs by the end of Q3 2004,
> and that will be it.

Source?
 
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:35:26 +0000 (UTC), General Kireiko
<douglas@panix.com> wrote:

> Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote:
>
> :>I really wish the ReplayTV folks would place *some* sort of indicator
> :>in the schedule for those shows which match a current theme channel.
>
> : That would be a good thing to do. For one thing, it would let you
> : verify you just created a theme channel.
>
> Well, the Replay Theme Channel will show up on your Replay Guide, and its
> description will state "This channel will record all shows containing the
> words 'My SHow'". You can then select this channel, and list all the
> shows
> which match "My SHow."
>
> Don't count on the folks at DNNA to create anymore updates for the
> stand-alone DVR. I believe that the days of the standalone DVR are
> numbered,
> once Cable-company provided DVR's become more widely available.
> DNNA predicts they will sell off their stock of DVRs by the end of Q3
> 2004,
> and that will be it. DNNA is looking to lisence out the RTV software.
>
> Tivo sees the writing on the wall, too, whcih is why they are now
> offering
> the Home Media Option free, so they don't get stuck with obsolete stock.
>
> -Doug

What about us satellite users? What do we use? Personally, even if I had
cable, I'd rather have a non-cable company's DVR. I'd rather have free
will.

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> Already here - in the US both DirecTV and Dish have them, Voom is
> supposedly developing one. But it'd be surprising if any of them are
> based on ReplayTV. DTV already has a deal with TiVo. And if they
> switch it will certainly be to NDS, since News Corp now owns both DTV
> and NDS. Why go outside when you have the tech in house?
>
> Dish has already developed a few generations of their DVR - I think
> with JVC, IIRC.
>
> Voom - I don't know. I heard they were doing it in-house, but we'll
> see.

DTV has already said it is not renewing its deal with Tivo. It's true,
"everyone" will have one. It's also true that everything due in the
forseable future is abysmal compared to Replay (or Tivo).
 
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Tony D <nospam@nospam.com> shaped the electrons to say:
>DTV has already said it is not renewing its deal with Tivo. It's true,

Can you cite where they said that?

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