Which one would be better between these 2?

[radioactivegames77]

Hi? I’m searching for a new laptop for this.
3ds Max (modeling and little rendering )
Unreal Engine (Video game design and programming)
Photoshop (not ultra intensive )
Little Video Editing
After navigating stores and stores my Options are narrowed to 2 finalists.

Asus
Ryzen 5 1600
8gb RAM
Rx 580 4gb
No ssd
1Tb hdd

Another Asus
I7 7700hq
16gb ram
Gtx 1060 6gb
128gb ssd
1tb hdd

I would appreciate your help
Prices are nearly the same
ALSO for economic reasons i can’t afford any upgrades un the near future

 

[vapour]

country and budget?
I want to pick the first one for better CPU power but lacking 8gb ram and ssd, I will opt for second one for sure.

 

[radioactivegames77]

Vapour country is Mexico and Budget is around $1200 dollars although here in Mexico everything is more expensive so those are my options

 

[delaro]

Desktop vs Laptop that is for you decide if you want mobility over the cluttersome typical Desktop.

Ryzen 1600 is nearly 40% faster over a i7 7700 in everything you listed.


The Laptop

Gtx 1060 6gb- Is slightly faster overall than the RX 580 4GB, you will also make more use of the added VRAM.

16GB of RAM- Most of what you listed is RAM intensive

SSD- Who doesn't like 10-second boots

I7 7700hq- Mobile CPU that still is very good at everything you listed but much slower than the Ryzen as to be expected.

 

[radioactivegames77]

The model I saw was Ryzen 5 in a laptop... it’s not a desktop

 

[delaro]

A Ryzen 1600 is not a Mobile chip and it's much faster over the only Ryzen 5 mobile version.

These are the current mobile versions.

Ryzen 3 2200U....2 Cores...4 Threads....2.5-3.4 GHZ
Ryzen 3 2300U and 2300U PRO...4 Cores...4 Threads...2.0-3.4 GHZ
Ryzen 5 2500U and 2500U PRO...4 Cores...8 Threads...2.0-3.6 Ghz
Ryzen 7 2700U and 2700U PRO...4 Cores...8 Threads...2.2-3.8 GHZ

vs

i7 7700hq...4 Cores...8 Threads...2.8-3.8 GHZ


Cinebench 15 64-bit multi-core
i7 7700hq..........734..+24.6%
Ryzen 5 2500U...589..−24.6%

TrueCrypt AES
i7 7700hq..........4.1..+24.2%
Ryzen 5 2500U...3.3..−24.2%

Geekbench 4.0 64-bit single-core
i7 7700hq..........4453..+24.3%
Ryzen 5 2500U...3582..−24.3%

Geekbench 4.0 64-bit multi-core
i7 7700hq..........14010..+46.7%
Ryzen 5 2500U...9548..−46.7%

Passmark
i7 7700hq..........8837..+20.3%
Ryzen 5 2500U...7345..−20.3%


*1060 6G is slightly faster over an RX 580 4Gb plus the added VRAM will help in Rendering
*16G of RAM vs 8G of RAM- let's face it 8 Gigs is the minimum you want for anything now.
*An SSD- Boot and application start times are insanely faster over a mobile hard drive.

I still see a better value in the Intel unit especially considering you're not wanting to upgrade anytime soon, the only advantage the 2500U has is it gets better battery life at the cost of performance.

 

[radioactivegames77]

https/www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ROG-Strix-GL702ZC-Ryzen-5-1600-Radeon-RX-580-FHD-Laptop-Review.281526.0.html
This is the model of Ryzen 5
So, you are saying that this is a Ryzen 2500U

 

[delaro]

"Removable Desktop CPU"
Weight " 7.05 pounds" Power Supply " 2.65 pounds"

Display Response Time
Black to White 23 ms
Grey to Grey 36 ms
"Not great for any kind of fast-paced gaming and kind of dull in color"

It's Massive and bulky and also is going to run very hot at times and have a battery life of less than an hour, after about a year that will get worse as the Thermal past dries out.

No, that unit is an Exception and a Rarity. You typically don't see mobiles with desktop CPU's. In this case, the i7 7700hq is slightly faster in single core applications but nearly 50% slower in multicore. It uses nearly the slowest RAM speeds which show up in every application you use. I still think the Intel version is still a better value, you may have a little slower CPU but everything else is makes up for that.

 

[radioactivegames77]

Oh I see, so you think Intel is still a better option

 

[delaro]

For your applications I do and it's far more portable.

 

[radioactivegames77]

For your applications I do and it's far more portable.

And for gaming which of these would be better, along with the already mentioned

 

[radioactivegames77]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from radioactivegames77 : "Searching for new gaming/productivity laptop"

Hi folks! I’m searching for a new laptop and would like to hear recommendations
Which of them will be better, faster and adequate at this tasks? .
Gaming
3D modeling
Videogame Design, programming and development
Audio Edition
Little Rendering
Photo Editing and texturizing
Almost nothing of video editing
University Work


Y720
The i7 7700hq,16gb RAM, 128GB SSD, 1TB HDD and 1060 gb
https/www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-Legion-Y720-7700HQ-Full-HD-GTX-1060-Laptop-Review.218710.0.html

or the
ASus GL702ZC
Ryzen 5 1600, 8gb RAM, No SSD,1TB HDD, RX 580 4Gb?

https/www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ROG-Strix-GL702ZC-Ryzen-5-1600-Radeon-RX-580-FHD-Laptop-Review.281526.0.html

By the way I can’t spare any upgrades , so the laptops should stay as they are.

Would like to hear your thoughts on this, regards

The Lenovo has a better CPU, double the RAM and an SSD (although too small for much work past Windows and some programs), however there have been quite a few posts about issues with the Y720, screen flicker, some other things. Don't know about the quality of the ASUS, but it's has less hardware specs.

The Lenovo has a better CPU, double the RAM and an SSD (although too small for much work past Windows and some programs), however there have been quite a few posts about issues with the Y720, screen flicker, some other things. Don't know about the quality of the ASUS, but it's has less hardware specs.

I thought Ryzen was better, but that’s the only thing in which it would be better anyway. Would it be valuable for the better CPU?

I have a friend that has a Y720, he hasn’t noticed any issue