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The problem for Microsoft isn't with Win7, which I believe to be what Vista should have been, but rather that there hasn't been any real reason for consumers to upgrade either their hardware or their operating system. Sure, there are still new graphics cards out there but who cares? Microsoft has pretty much dumped the desktop for gaming and opted for the XBOX 360 with it inferior quality and frame rates. Times used to be that people would hunt down all the squirreled money and pester their parents to tears in order to get the latest hardware to run the newest graphic-intensive game ... kind of like they are now doing to buy the latest smartphone.
Honestly, what valid reason would a consumer have to spend the big bucks on a desktop upgrade when it will be under-utilized?
Honestly, what valid reason would a consumer have to spend the big bucks on a desktop upgrade when it will be under-utilized?
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iOS is hardly a real OS. I think if you include that as an operating system, then you would have to give linux the PS3 console numbers since it is linux based. Be fair here, seriously =\
[citation][nom]vyktor1980[/nom]good job microsoft .keep up the good work ).windows have directx and that's one of the big reason for his popularity and succes.but loocking at the facts now that in a few mounths we will be at the third generation of directx 11 gpu's and only a hand of directx 11 compatibile games.lot's of console ports and canceled pc games.that's no way to treat youre customers...sorry for my bad english[/citation]
That is the gaming part, what about the enterprices that stanks for a huge chunk of their os sales... i dont recall when i last used directx for any work.
The companies look for stability, reliability, security, administration ect in a product as well as price, windows come out on top by a huge margin and the market share is all the proof anyone need. Its a reason the lesser (pardon the word) dont have a good marketshare!
That is the gaming part, what about the enterprices that stanks for a huge chunk of their os sales... i dont recall when i last used directx for any work.
The companies look for stability, reliability, security, administration ect in a product as well as price, windows come out on top by a huge margin and the market share is all the proof anyone need. Its a reason the lesser (pardon the word) dont have a good marketshare!
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Oh no, Windows has dropped below 90% market share....
I have my Windows PC, what everyone else does is not my concern.
I have my Windows PC, what everyone else does is not my concern.
Both Pate and Pelov are wrong
I use Ubuntu and for any problem what so ever you need to use the command line
for example upgrading the drivers for a graphic card often requires the command line
Every time there is a problem ubuntu runs back to momy and you need to input sudo this sudo that
IF linux unbuntu was clicky clicky fixy fixy then i could ahve a bigger market share
But it is NOT clicky clicky fixy fixy
any problem what so ever and you need sudo this sudo that
I use Ubuntu and for any problem what so ever you need to use the command line
for example upgrading the drivers for a graphic card often requires the command line
Every time there is a problem ubuntu runs back to momy and you need to input sudo this sudo that
IF linux unbuntu was clicky clicky fixy fixy then i could ahve a bigger market share
But it is NOT clicky clicky fixy fixy
any problem what so ever and you need sudo this sudo that
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[citation][nom]aaron88_7[/nom]but nobody serious about productivity is going to bother entering int sudo apt bla bla bla into a command line just to run some basic programs.[/citation]
Could you please state what is the simple program that forces you to open the cli and launch the program with administrative rights?
Also sudo isn't something that only exist in linux. Unix OS also have it, including the Mac OS X.
Also if windows xp had something similar to sudo most of it's security issues would have disappeared overnight. Fortunately Microsoft copied Unix/Linux OS and introduced the UAC.
Could you please state what is the simple program that forces you to open the cli and launch the program with administrative rights?
Also sudo isn't something that only exist in linux. Unix OS also have it, including the Mac OS X.
Also if windows xp had something similar to sudo most of it's security issues would have disappeared overnight. Fortunately Microsoft copied Unix/Linux OS and introduced the UAC.
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I don't consider iOS as a desktop OS. However, giving that the trend is quickly moving towards mobile computing, it's definitely a number that Microsoft should take seriously. It means they have to put more time, money and effort in their mobile OS if they want to stay competitive when everyone have a netbook, tablet or even smartphone.
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How do multi platform users fit into these figures. I use windows 80% , linux 15% and OSX 2% and mobile OS's 3%. but if I had to label myself a primary user I would want to be known as a windows user dammit.
i just switched to Ubuntu (first time using linux in over 10 years), and i have to say the only thing i miss about windows is my games. to everyone saying you have to do everything from command line, sure there are things you need command line for, but if you do some searching around in the forums you'll find some good scripts that you can make that will get rid of most of the need for command line.
overall, linux is great if you don't do hardcore gaming, there are a ton of full featured programs on the Ubuntu Software Center, you can even configure the software center to get programs from different distros. just about any type of program you would need someone has written for linux.
overall, linux is great if you don't do hardcore gaming, there are a ton of full featured programs on the Ubuntu Software Center, you can even configure the software center to get programs from different distros. just about any type of program you would need someone has written for linux.
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This is actually good news for gamers. If M$ starts to dip below the 80% mark gaming companies will have to start looking at making their games work on multiple OSes. If they would start coding for an open standard -such as OpenGL (or whatever is big nowadays)- then we can all jump over to Linux. That's always everyone's #1 reason (and often the only reason) people say they aren't running Linux. I would certainly make the switch if I could play game on it.
My point about Ubuntu isn't that it's a bad OS, my point is that yesterday I bought a 700 page book just so I can figure out how to use the dang thing. I've never had to buy a book or typically read much documentation at all for any operating system. I'm under the firm believe that Ubuntu users prefer the high learning curve because it's more of an achievement when they can master the OS. In a way that's partially the reason I'm attempting to learn it myself, but honestly I think a lot of things could and should be a lot easier than they make it.
But if I need to produce a video or do some sort of music production I'm going to stick with what works and works well. Yea Ubuntu gives you free software, but it's really not that spectacular, (pretty much worth it's price). I can usually find equally decent free programs on Windows that are much less of a technical headache. For me using Ubuntu is purely recreational while any productivity is going to be done from my Windows partition.
But if I need to produce a video or do some sort of music production I'm going to stick with what works and works well. Yea Ubuntu gives you free software, but it's really not that spectacular, (pretty much worth it's price). I can usually find equally decent free programs on Windows that are much less of a technical headache. For me using Ubuntu is purely recreational while any productivity is going to be done from my Windows partition.
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[citation][nom]molo9000[/nom]Yeah... that's why my software engineering prof uses a Mac...... and a huge number of people at the informatics / electrical engineering faculty at my university.[/citation]
Yeah and dont all schools get huge discounts for using mac? and i don't even remember the program for engineering but it was once considered the best and was not made for windows for a long time and when it was it had limited features. Its not the mac they want its the program that is on it they want. don't fool your self. BTW that program is now working properly on windows and a friend of mine who does engineering for boing says they dropped their mac (what they had of them for that one program) the second you could because macs weren't fast enough. ( i really wish i could remember what that program was
) something about 3 model aerodynamics and crap for building planes.
Yeah and dont all schools get huge discounts for using mac? and i don't even remember the program for engineering but it was once considered the best and was not made for windows for a long time and when it was it had limited features. Its not the mac they want its the program that is on it they want. don't fool your self. BTW that program is now working properly on windows and a friend of mine who does engineering for boing says they dropped their mac (what they had of them for that one program) the second you could because macs weren't fast enough. ( i really wish i could remember what that program was
) something about 3 model aerodynamics and crap for building planes.
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[citation][nom]Vladislaus[/nom]Could you please state what is the simple program that forces you to open the cli and launch the program with administrative rights?Also sudo isn't something that only exist in linux. Unix OS also have it, including the Mac OS X.Also if windows xp had something similar to sudo most of it's security issues would have disappeared overnight. Fortunately Microsoft copied Unix/Linux OS and introduced the UAC.[/citation]
Sorry to make a second post here but you name three OS's that are basically linux even though linux was based off of unix. Of course they all use the same sort of feature program. BTW if uac actually did get copied from linux they can have it back.. its a bunch of crap and gets turned off the second i install an OS with it.
@gmoney just because it gets coded for opengl doesn't mean it will be coded for linux. linux has a major flaw that keeps games off of it.. No standardization and honestly after using linux. other then geek creds i don't see any reason to use it unless i was a blind fan boy who uses it to say i hate MS. I mean if you don't like windows because you actually don't like it sure but most the people who i met and use linux don't like MS because they are a walking fanboy add spewing a bunch of crap about windows and linux they don't even know what means let alone are based anywhere close to fact. They hate to hate because their crowd hates and it seems they simply follow.
Mac os is to closed for me i want to do what i want to do when i want to do it with out the mighty jobs striking me down and telling me i cant. Linux doesn't do anything better though i can do some of what i want to do with ot recoding my whole OS or adding a bunch of crappy poorly written programs to try and emulate something i can get from another OS. When i could pay for what i use which unlike some people i actually don't have a problem with because i would love to not lose my job because everyone thinks they should get everything for free.
Anyways i just don't see any point to moving along unless i want nerd points or i want to be some metro sexual fad add with a fruit all over everything i buy. When what im using now does every single thing i want it to do. As far as the stability thing makes me think user error or poor hardware choices. i have never had problems with any windows i have used ever unless a piece of hardware i installed was faulty and windows was just letting me know in its encrypted way, Or a piece of crap program.
Being in PC repair for pretty much my whole life i get to see it a lot. I dont think i have ever seen windows be unstable just because its windows. There is always a reason. And even then its almost always the user that has done something to cause it. and yeah sometimes a piece of hardware is bad.
Next time you have a computer crashing a lot maybe you should rule out your self which you wont because your infallible as everyone will consider them selves. or maybe stop buying those cheap pos computer parts. Its kinda like putting cooking oil in your engine cuz its cheap and expecting the same result as some quality synthetic oil made for an engine.
Sorry to make a second post here but you name three OS's that are basically linux even though linux was based off of unix. Of course they all use the same sort of feature program. BTW if uac actually did get copied from linux they can have it back.. its a bunch of crap and gets turned off the second i install an OS with it.
@gmoney just because it gets coded for opengl doesn't mean it will be coded for linux. linux has a major flaw that keeps games off of it.. No standardization and honestly after using linux. other then geek creds i don't see any reason to use it unless i was a blind fan boy who uses it to say i hate MS. I mean if you don't like windows because you actually don't like it sure but most the people who i met and use linux don't like MS because they are a walking fanboy add spewing a bunch of crap about windows and linux they don't even know what means let alone are based anywhere close to fact. They hate to hate because their crowd hates and it seems they simply follow.
Mac os is to closed for me i want to do what i want to do when i want to do it with out the mighty jobs striking me down and telling me i cant. Linux doesn't do anything better though i can do some of what i want to do with ot recoding my whole OS or adding a bunch of crappy poorly written programs to try and emulate something i can get from another OS. When i could pay for what i use which unlike some people i actually don't have a problem with because i would love to not lose my job because everyone thinks they should get everything for free.
Anyways i just don't see any point to moving along unless i want nerd points or i want to be some metro sexual fad add with a fruit all over everything i buy. When what im using now does every single thing i want it to do. As far as the stability thing makes me think user error or poor hardware choices. i have never had problems with any windows i have used ever unless a piece of hardware i installed was faulty and windows was just letting me know in its encrypted way, Or a piece of crap program.
Being in PC repair for pretty much my whole life i get to see it a lot. I dont think i have ever seen windows be unstable just because its windows. There is always a reason. And even then its almost always the user that has done something to cause it. and yeah sometimes a piece of hardware is bad.
Next time you have a computer crashing a lot maybe you should rule out your self which you wont because your infallible as everyone will consider them selves. or maybe stop buying those cheap pos computer parts. Its kinda like putting cooking oil in your engine cuz its cheap and expecting the same result as some quality synthetic oil made for an engine.
- Windows XP slows down after a while. Solution is to regularly defragment the HDD.
- Linux doesn't slow down, works as the day one install. Doesn't need defragmenting because of the EXT4 filesystem architecture (as opposed to NTFS).
- Windows because of such a sheepish~ I mean large market share attracts much more attention from malware and virus authors. Antivirus programs can slow down performance.
- Linux doesn't need an antivirus. Doesn't mean it's not hackable (nothing really is, just look at the PlayStation 3 with its recent activity), it simply means it's just not practical to write the same virus for 5 different distributions just to impact maybe 2% of (usually smart) users.
What's that ? I can't write filenames with ? \ " | * in them ? Fuck you. I can using Linux.
Oh, I can't delete a file or folder because application X is using it ? Fuck you. I delete it anyway, even while running it. Especially for TV shows. I download the torrent, watch it half through, pause, remove the .avi and press play. The file is gone but it still plays until I close the player. It's an absolutely beautiful thing.
- Linux doesn't slow down, works as the day one install. Doesn't need defragmenting because of the EXT4 filesystem architecture (as opposed to NTFS).
- Windows because of such a sheepish~ I mean large market share attracts much more attention from malware and virus authors. Antivirus programs can slow down performance.
- Linux doesn't need an antivirus. Doesn't mean it's not hackable (nothing really is, just look at the PlayStation 3 with its recent activity), it simply means it's just not practical to write the same virus for 5 different distributions just to impact maybe 2% of (usually smart) users.
What's that ? I can't write filenames with ? \ " | * in them ? Fuck you. I can using Linux.
Oh, I can't delete a file or folder because application X is using it ? Fuck you. I delete it anyway, even while running it. Especially for TV shows. I download the torrent, watch it half through, pause, remove the .avi and press play. The file is gone but it still plays until I close the player. It's an absolutely beautiful thing.
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