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i will say pirating media should be illegal. no doubt. but how far down this rabbit whole do we go?
obviously using tivo, a dvr or even a vhs recorder to record media is not illegal. is it?
if i record a movie or concert and then watch it later is that illegal? i don't think it is. we could be talking about the same exact movie or song but if i record it and archive it i don't think i am breaking the law. i have done this with many movies and later put them on dvd with no thought to being sued. i think the only way i would have a legal issue is if i rebroadcast that content? but sports bars do that all the time.
i have watched games that were not live and watched as the bar tender skips through the commercials. that bar is actually making money off of the recorded media. they do not own the rights to the broadcast and are making it publicly available. i have not heard of one case where some one has asked them to stop doing that.
what troubles me is that these legal groups are going after individuals as if they were some big entity like the pirate bay. the pirate bay made lots of stuff publicly available and many people took advantage of that. thousands and thousands of people. how is that the same as a guy who pirates a movie using bittorrent and seeds it to 2x. that means that he got a copy of the movie and shared it with two people. how is that the same? how is that publicly available if he only shared it with two other pirates? why should he be sued for thousands of dollars? essentially he stole three copies of a movie but is being sued like he stole thousands. what if the two people he shared the movie with are also being sued? the copyright holder would be getting paid many times for a single copy. once from the guy who shared it and another from the guy who made a copy and so on....
there are many more scenarios where i can compare pirating with a vcr or sharing movies with friends or..... the current laws are too vague and need to reflect the actual processes of the alleged violator. until then this is a huge joke and will continue to be a joke until someone figures out a way to enforce these laws justly.
obviously using tivo, a dvr or even a vhs recorder to record media is not illegal. is it?
if i record a movie or concert and then watch it later is that illegal? i don't think it is. we could be talking about the same exact movie or song but if i record it and archive it i don't think i am breaking the law. i have done this with many movies and later put them on dvd with no thought to being sued. i think the only way i would have a legal issue is if i rebroadcast that content? but sports bars do that all the time.
i have watched games that were not live and watched as the bar tender skips through the commercials. that bar is actually making money off of the recorded media. they do not own the rights to the broadcast and are making it publicly available. i have not heard of one case where some one has asked them to stop doing that.
what troubles me is that these legal groups are going after individuals as if they were some big entity like the pirate bay. the pirate bay made lots of stuff publicly available and many people took advantage of that. thousands and thousands of people. how is that the same as a guy who pirates a movie using bittorrent and seeds it to 2x. that means that he got a copy of the movie and shared it with two people. how is that the same? how is that publicly available if he only shared it with two other pirates? why should he be sued for thousands of dollars? essentially he stole three copies of a movie but is being sued like he stole thousands. what if the two people he shared the movie with are also being sued? the copyright holder would be getting paid many times for a single copy. once from the guy who shared it and another from the guy who made a copy and so on....
there are many more scenarios where i can compare pirating with a vcr or sharing movies with friends or..... the current laws are too vague and need to reflect the actual processes of the alleged violator. until then this is a huge joke and will continue to be a joke until someone figures out a way to enforce these laws justly.