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AquaVista Aquarium Mounts on Wall, Feeds Fish : Read more
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nforce4max
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This is great those who have a tiny cramped city apartment like in NY. My as well try living in style when living out of an apartment that might as well be a enlarged closet.
[citation][nom]Grims[/nom]Going to want to make sure you get the center of those studs..[/citation]
Yeah no kidding, 350 pounds is a LOT of weight for a wall to support. I'm curious how many "DIY-ers" out there could hang this beast properly - it would be an awful large mess if it were to come crashing down from improper installation.
Yeah no kidding, 350 pounds is a LOT of weight for a wall to support. I'm curious how many "DIY-ers" out there could hang this beast properly - it would be an awful large mess if it were to come crashing down from improper installation.
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This is pretty cool and the price is actually not bad considering what it is. To buy a decent tank, stand, filter, hood, etc can cost upwards of $500 for decent stuff (you could spend $500 on a good stand). Add in the LCD touch control, auto feeder, unique wallmount design, the fact that for a 20-gallon this is going to have a lot more glass (being only 6" thick) and this really isn't too expensive at all. I live in a reasonably small apartment (with my GF) and this would be great. The only concern I have is how easy it would be to maintain / clean.
Does anyone care about the happiness of the fish???????
Unless you get fish so small you can't see them, they are going to be miserable in a six inch wide tank. Height is generally the least important charateristic from the fish's perspective, because they generally don't swim up and down too much, but it doesn't suit people all that well since depth is the least perceptable to humans in most settings. So, these guys are saying screw the fish, we don't care if they're miserable, we just want money from jackasses who think animals were put on this planet for our entertainment.
Another point, fish that are happy are much more interesting, and they are healthier and have better colors. So, even for people who don't have the decency to be kind to lives that depend on them, should be good to their fish for this reason.
Unless you get fish so small you can't see them, they are going to be miserable in a six inch wide tank. Height is generally the least important charateristic from the fish's perspective, because they generally don't swim up and down too much, but it doesn't suit people all that well since depth is the least perceptable to humans in most settings. So, these guys are saying screw the fish, we don't care if they're miserable, we just want money from jackasses who think animals were put on this planet for our entertainment.
Another point, fish that are happy are much more interesting, and they are healthier and have better colors. So, even for people who don't have the decency to be kind to lives that depend on them, should be good to their fish for this reason.
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[citation][nom]TA152H[/nom]Does anyone care about the happiness of the fish???????Unless you get fish so small you can't see them, they are going to be miserable in a six inch wide tank. Height is generally the least important charateristic from the fish's perspective, because they generally don't swim up and down too much, but it doesn't suit people all that well since depth is the least perceptable to humans in most settings. So, these guys are saying screw the fish, we don't care if they're miserable, we just want money from jackasses who think animals were put on this planet for our entertainment. Another point, fish that are happy are much more interesting, and they are healthier and have better colors. So, even for people who don't have the decency to be kind to lives that depend on them, should be good to their fish for this reason.[/citation]
what kind of fish your talking about that wont be happy in 6 inch deep? My brother has a 10 Gallon fish tank that only 5 inches(at the middle 8 inches due to the outward curve in the front) deep and the fish has been happy in there for quite a while.
what kind of fish your talking about that wont be happy in 6 inch deep? My brother has a 10 Gallon fish tank that only 5 inches(at the middle 8 inches due to the outward curve in the front) deep and the fish has been happy in there for quite a while.
[citation][nom]warmon6[/nom]what kind of fish your talking about that wont be happy in 6 inch deep? My brother has a 10 Gallon fish tank that only 5 inches(at the middle 8 inches due to the outward curve in the front) deep and the fish has been happy in there for quite a while.[/citation]
I don't know what kind of weird 10 gallon tank he has, but the normal one is thicker, being roughly 10 inches thick. The 10 gallon tank is lousy as well, for all but the smallest fish.
Unless you know fish, you probably can't tell the difference anyway. How would you know they're happy?
But, to answer your question, put any fish even an inch long in a tank, and he's going to want more than six inches of depth. Cichlids are probably the most interesting of the freshwater fish because of their intelligence and personalities, and they will go crazy in such a narrow tank. I always get the widest tanks possible, and this produces fish that breed more often, have more vivid colors, and act normally as opposed to neurotically. They are also much friendlier to humans and learn much faster when happy.
If you have the choice between, let's say, a 48"x13" tank (55 gallon), and a 36"x18" tank (50 gallon), the fish will prefer the latter, even though it's slightly smaller. For large cichlids, you want 24" wide tanks of at least 180 gallons. Anything else is a cruelty.
A lot depends on the personality of the fish. If you get characoids, which are generally a lot less intelligent, but have their own personality quirks, you give them what they like. For example, Cichlids are very territorial, and love to claim things like rocks, and caves, and such. So, you give them these things. Otherwise they get bored and are unhappy. Piranhas, a characin, love to swim against a current. If you put them in a tank without a current somewhere in it, you're not giving them a good life. They also have no love for rocks, and like an open clear environment. Pacus, their closely related cousins, also like open areas more than closed.
The point being, if you're going to place something in your hands, make sure you wash them good. You have a responsibility to them, and if you're smart, you can give them a good life and at the same time enjoy them. A device like this totally destroys any possibility of that, except for the smallest of fish. These are living creatures, not electronic devices. When you're willing to live in a closet, then put your fish in one of these. If not, give them something they can be happy in, and you'll be happier with them.
I don't know what kind of weird 10 gallon tank he has, but the normal one is thicker, being roughly 10 inches thick. The 10 gallon tank is lousy as well, for all but the smallest fish.
Unless you know fish, you probably can't tell the difference anyway. How would you know they're happy?
But, to answer your question, put any fish even an inch long in a tank, and he's going to want more than six inches of depth. Cichlids are probably the most interesting of the freshwater fish because of their intelligence and personalities, and they will go crazy in such a narrow tank. I always get the widest tanks possible, and this produces fish that breed more often, have more vivid colors, and act normally as opposed to neurotically. They are also much friendlier to humans and learn much faster when happy.
If you have the choice between, let's say, a 48"x13" tank (55 gallon), and a 36"x18" tank (50 gallon), the fish will prefer the latter, even though it's slightly smaller. For large cichlids, you want 24" wide tanks of at least 180 gallons. Anything else is a cruelty.
A lot depends on the personality of the fish. If you get characoids, which are generally a lot less intelligent, but have their own personality quirks, you give them what they like. For example, Cichlids are very territorial, and love to claim things like rocks, and caves, and such. So, you give them these things. Otherwise they get bored and are unhappy. Piranhas, a characin, love to swim against a current. If you put them in a tank without a current somewhere in it, you're not giving them a good life. They also have no love for rocks, and like an open clear environment. Pacus, their closely related cousins, also like open areas more than closed.
The point being, if you're going to place something in your hands, make sure you wash them good. You have a responsibility to them, and if you're smart, you can give them a good life and at the same time enjoy them. A device like this totally destroys any possibility of that, except for the smallest of fish. These are living creatures, not electronic devices. When you're willing to live in a closet, then put your fish in one of these. If not, give them something they can be happy in, and you'll be happier with them.
[citation][nom]TA152H[/nom]Does anyone care about the happiness of the fish???????Unless you get fish so small you can't see them, they are going to be miserable in a six inch wide tank. Height is generally the least important charateristic from the fish's perspective, because they generally don't swim up and down too much, but it doesn't suit people all that well since depth is the least perceptable to humans in most settings. So, these guys are saying screw the fish, we don't care if they're miserable, we just want money from jackasses who think animals were put on this planet for our entertainment. Another point, fish that are happy are much more interesting, and they are healthier and have better colors. So, even for people who don't have the decency to be kind to lives that depend on them, should be good to their fish for this reason.[/citation]
fish don't have feelings . the eat, poop, and procreate. I seriously doubt they care how much room they have to do it in, as long as they can do it. If they do have feeling they probably are glad they don't have to worry about being eaten by natural predator typically not found in fish acquariums. You have watched Finding Nemo way to many times.
fish don't have feelings . the eat, poop, and procreate. I seriously doubt they care how much room they have to do it in, as long as they can do it. If they do have feeling they probably are glad they don't have to worry about being eaten by natural predator typically not found in fish acquariums. You have watched Finding Nemo way to many times.
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TAI52H is right, those are horrible dimensions for keeping fish. 6" wide is about the same as a standard 2.5 gallon nano tanks, and you can only keep a single betta in those because of the cramped conditions. Normal 20 gallon tanks are only 30" long, not 58", and are twice as wide, and that's the minimum for lots of fish that need swimming room. Honestly, if you are so desperate for space that you can't spare an extra 6" then you shouldn't be considering more than a single betta anyway.
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[citation][nom]WheelsOfConfusion[/nom]TAI52H is right, those are horrible dimensions for keeping fish. 6" wide is about the same as a standard 2.5 gallon nano tanks, and you can only keep a single betta in those because of the cramped conditions. Normal 20 gallon tanks are only 30" long, not 58", and are twice as wide, and that's the minimum for lots of fish that need swimming room. Honestly, if you are so desperate for space that you can't spare an extra 6" then you shouldn't be considering more than a single betta anyway.[/citation]
Could you just fill it with say a couple doze neons? Wouldn't be much to look at, but they're pretty tiny.
Could you just fill it with say a couple doze neons? Wouldn't be much to look at, but they're pretty tiny.
I agree with TA152H. Fish might not have "feelings" as we would relate to, but that is no excuse for treating a pet in a cruel fashion. Anyone who has kept fish and paid any attention to them knows that different fish, even of the same species, display different "personalties". I realize that is anthropomorphizing a bit but you get my point.
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