Australian Gov. May Force ISPs to Track Customers

[anamaniac]

Wow... really.
My ISP doesn't even complain when I triple my bandwidth cap...

So, should every web page be HTTPS now?

 

[gorehound]

I GOT IT:

China has the Great Firewall
Aussies will have the Great Barrier Reeefer

 

[Christopher1]

[citation][nom]anamaniac[/nom]Wow... really.My ISP doesn't even complain when I triple my bandwidth cap...So, should every web page be HTTPS now?[/citation]

That is actually what some people are suggesting as a solution to this whole issue..... HTTPS on every single website so that 'da feds' cannot see what you are doing.

 

[scifi9000]

The more you tighten your grip, the more systems will slip through your fingers

 

[Regulas]

Ah, good old liberal nanny state mentality. Australia has been heading down to liberal Socialism faster than Great Britain. The people in the USA have woke up and will be voting our Socialists/Marxists hacks out of DC this November and in 2012.

 

[Christopher1]

[citation][nom]regulas[/nom]Ah, good old liberal nanny state mentality. Australia has been heading down to liberal Socialism faster than Great Britain. The people in the USA have woke up and will be voting our Socialists/Marxists hacks out of DC this November and in 2012.[/citation]

Actually, no. They are heading down the road towards fascism and conservatism, not socialism/liberalism.

 

[Dirtman73]

[citation][nom]Christopher1[/nom]Actually, no. They are heading down the road towards fascism and conservatism, not socialism/liberalism.[/citation]

Agreed. The posters constantly blabbing about communism and socialism on this site have no fricking clue what they are talking about. Too much Fox News I suppose...

Australia is turning into a nanny state, but it's got nothing to do with proper socialism.

 

[nottheking]

Ah, good old liberal nanny state mentality. Australia has been heading down to liberal Socialism faster than Great Britain.

Please don't confuse liberalism with conservativism. I know that it's popular for oh-so-many conservatives to use the "liberal" label as a sticker for "anything that disagrees with me," but truth be told, fascism is the exclusive purvue of the extreme right-wing. Limits on personal freedoms? Check. "Big Brother" watching you? Check. Pressing for a government enforced "Morality?" Check. Blaming problems on specific ethnic/religious groups like immigrants, Muslims, Jews, or Catholics? Check.

You should learn the basic differences between the modern left/right; the left favors government intervention and heavy regulation in the economy, but more personal freedoms. The right favors deregulation of businesses and the economy, but when it comes to personal freedoms, George W. Bush said it succinctly Back in 1999: "There ought to be limits to freedom."

Now, of course, Communism isn't any better than Fascism; Stalin systematically killed off twice as many innocent civilians as Hitler did in his entire Holocaust, comitted great crimes against both science (Trofim Lysenko sending the innocent civilians of Russia back to the stone age) and nature, (such as draining and eliminating the Aral sea, wiping out a fishing economy as big as the Gulf of Mexico) and engaged in constant activity to purge society of all "inconvenient proof" of all these evils. However, these two kinds of evil are distinct, different, and warning signs for any who would think of straying too far from the political center of sanity.

The people in the USA have woke up and will be voting our Socialists/Marxists hacks out of DC this November and in 2012.

If you honestly think that Obama is socialist (rather than simply "not conservative enough") I've also got news for you... The much-feared "Obamacare" bill? Hardly socialist; In spite of having a strong Democratic majority, the Senate has a decent Conservative lean to it thanks to people like Ben Nelson and Mary Landrieu. In the end, the bill lacks almost anything conservatives complained about; no "rationing," no government-run system, in fact, almost nothing incredibly overbearing other than that laughable "mandate" that, because it doesn't actually list it as a criminal offense, isn't even really enforceable."

Similarly, he's balked at reversing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," as given his status as Commander-In-Chief, he doesn't NEED to go through Congress to eliminate it; Harry Trumand eliminated racial segregation in the military in a penstroke back in 1948 with his signature of Executive Order 9981.

Additionally, there's that whole issue with BP, at which point virtually everyone, even Republicans, (except for Tea Partiers like Rand Paul, who sit in the tiny, super-vocal minority) arguing that he's not being hard enough on the corporation. From this, one could readily argue that Obama is hardly "socialist," and just as the problem of being "Bush Light;" conservative, but not enough to satisfy Republicans, and certainly far too much to the right to satisfy the left, and many moderates, too.

In spite of this, given as presidential re-election bids are almost always dictated by the current economy, if the recovery continues, Obama's actually a lock for re-election in 2012, even against a stronger opponent such as MN's Tim Pawlenty or GA's Newt Gingrich. And if it's someone like Sarah Palin? He'll win in a landslide. Better luck in 2016.

 

[lievyon]

Nanny states will be the wave of the future I fear. I don't know if even the US constitution can prevent it.

The only shinning light is those that understand computers and the interenet will always be one step ahead of those who don't (law makers).

 

[randomizer]

[citation][nom]nottheking[/nom]but truth be told, fascism is the exclusive purvue of the extreme right-wing.[/citation]
Fascism has nothing to do with being right- or left- wing. It's to do with being Authoritarian or Libertarian.

 

[scifi9000]

Actually, Facisism IS right wing. The wing system (if you want to be simplistic) involves far left (socialism), and far right (facisism). For a system to work it needs to be somewhere in between. Socialism is not communism, though communism is a branch of socialism (sort of how the clan is a branch of christianity). Neither wing is right or wrong, but their application can be. To be socialist is just as it sounds, the government is set up for a social standpoint, it provides for the poor, but has the disadvantage of doing so by taking from the rich. Fascism on the other hand, is a situation where one governing body has overall power with no system of challanges or democracy of any kind. Castro is a typical facsist in that he is/was the ultimate ruler for Cuba with no system of opposition, however, some would argue that his heart was in the right place (for Cuba) and was loved by his people. Is Castro evil, I don't know, but t is an example of a dictator (fascist) seeming to work for a country and it's people.

 

[scifi9000]

I must also add that ultimately, most governments that are far left or right are generally totally corrupt and only become interested in their own power for the sake of their own people, they don't even see it happening!

 

[scifi9000]

Sorry I meant to say 'only interested in their own power despite their own people'

 

[randomizer]

The problem with the wing system is that it is too simplistic. Both Stalin and the Dalai Lama are left-wing and yet hold completely different social values. It's better to talk in terms of a 2-dimensional system nowadays, like the Nolan Chart or the political compass.

 

[ddkshah]

Funny thing is the Aussie govt is going to openly track while we in the U.S.S.R.... I mean U.S.A are secretly getting tracked by our govt already.
May I recommend Peer block

 

[scifi9000]

Another rant if I may, Capitalism is supposed to sit somewhere in between and is supposed to reward hard workers and keep the lazy poor... in thoery, however, it is not possible for everyone to be rich or there would be no incentice to work, modern capitalism has become what I call distributed fascism, let me explain. As I said above a fascist is a ruling body controlling the nation, capitalism has become a group of people (the obsurdly wealthy who may or may not have become that way through hard work) controlling the government that control the people. I am being tongue in cheek... sort of!

 

[gigabyter64]

Bet we will see alot more of "torproject" or similar encrypted proxies kicking in to avoid these sort of rules.

 

[eddieroolz]

Time to sell your home in Australia and move out, before the real estate crashes thank to this...

Honestly, if you're a net savvy user, there are infinitely better places to live now than Australia.

 

[leafman420]

OK I just have to say this. Taking away are rights to protect the rich, is going to make me mad. The internet is a global network not a government network. Invading my rights is steping om my my freedom. I know this is in Auss. right now but they are open a door they might not want to open. I understand there are bad people in this world, and most of them are running this world. Ironic isn't it. rofl.... The world it's a funny joke isn't it. The Gulf of Mexico.

 

[js1882]

Google is releasing SSL searches. It is already in beta:

http/googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/search-more-securely-with-encrypted.html