[citation][nom]dalauder[/nom]I don't think they should single out any games--just a 1% tax that goes to programs to get children outside and then this thing would be all positive.When I was a kid, my friends and I went outside and played basketball or tag in the yard most days at some point (the 90's). Now I never see children outside because they're playing a basketball video game instead. That's a bad thing.[/citation]
me and my friends would play a board game, do a puzzle, or draw when we played, me and my friends were genuinely unathletic, mostly girls and it showed.
if video games weren't around, we would have sat around and probably got into dungeons and dragons earlier instead of later in highschool.
just because some kids are active... there are ones like me who no matter how hard we tried, we would have no stamina and coordination, and get singled out because we suck. and than there are also the people who because of medical reasons cant function in an athletic manor, and we all know at least one... videogames are an equal ground for people like me, and taxing them to fund outside activities were we would be singled out, and be what we avoid, just sounds like a low blow to me.
[citation][nom]northwestern[/nom]The reason schools are so tight about secutiry is to prevent lawsuits up the butt from parents of kids who can't bother to shut their mouth when they need to. Parents hardly want to hear the other side of the story if they know their child is dead right.[/citation]
when i was in school, i believe 6th grade, we had a 0 tolerance policy put in, but it was never enforced... at least till there was a bullet found in the toilet, kid went hunting used backpack, bullet was still in it, tried to flush it, teachers freaked out a bit... understandably so, but still... the principal about a month after the policy was put into place, saw me drawing a gun... not for any reason but i wanted to practice drawing, he sat down, and helped me make it look more realistic, this was a time when doing that in other schools got you suspended.
see you can turn the other cheek for this kind of stuff, teachers getting involved in bullying... though thats what they tell you to do, we all know the fact, if you did, you were the new mark everyone gets the right to crap on, the best way to handle this is just let them fight and when it happens dont go overboard. same school that i got beet at and did what i said in my original post, my brother goes to... he screamed in a kids face, someone who was known for being an... cant say the word, but not reall nice or easy to get along with. he threw my little brothers glasses, he deserved it, and that was the last straw for the school, he was expelled and with that and a bunch of other, really minor things, was sued in court... this is the kind of stuff that happens now...
if a kid gets picked on, he cant go to the teacher, that makes it worse.
he cant throw the punch, because god knows he will get caught... so many times have i been surrounded and beaten for nothing, but i throw a punch and i'm the one who gets in trouble for it because the group lies. so they cant fight back because of the punishment they will most likely get for it...
because of the strictness bullying gets worse because you cant fight back without the possiblity of being expelled, and if your parrents are anything like mine, they will treat the teachers words as the word of god and not accept that there is another side to the story...
sorry that was a bit long and a little rantish.
[citation][nom]jkflipflop98[/nom]By that logic, we should tax sitting down. We should just tax the human body being in any type of idle state. Afterall, sitting down contributes to obesity. Arguably we should be able to tax it.[/citation]
just thought of a tax on high quality chairs and furniture.
[citation][nom]Jalek[/nom]What the MPAA lobbyists who ignore this sort of thing should realize, if "hours and hours of viewing" violence in games is accepted as desensitizing people, movies WILL be next.[/citation]
look at the laws and such that get proposed, and passesd, places like the mpaa own the country.
[citation][nom]Ichy[/nom]The tax; if passed, will only serve as a spear head for a miss guided movement by idiot law makers to quell what they view as the cause of violence and bullying because they make some sort of loose connection to the crime an a scenario from a game. However, I can understand some of their mentality in thinking this do in large part to Isolated incidents where troubled people have claimed that a scenario from a game "inspired" them and they felt a need to recreate the scene for real. The real problem isn't just that the games are getting into the hands of the miss-guided and troubled. It also stems from parents not able to understand the ESRB... and retailers enforcing the ESRB. It may be a bit rash to say, but I feel that game purchases should require ID, just like tobacco or alcohol, though the problem of teens having a stranger purchase the items for them would still be a problem.[/citation]
let me ask you, what age should... halo be, that's one of the better ones to make this argument with. there are many M games that are realistically only a T at most, but because of an arbitrary guideline, get an M rating.
halo had blood, and shooting and that's about it... they don't have realistic dismemberment that some other games have, or even giblets, and if its just multiplayer, in halo 1 it really was just robot looking people fighting robot looking people... and some purple blood.... i remember a game called jet force gemeni, i believe the violence in that was far greater than halo, but was only a T game,
but this is a problem i have with game rating in general. so you know i'm 24 and game ratings no longer apply to me, i just think some games really need to be re looked at for the ratings they get. look at demon souls, i don't remember anything in that game being bad, but it has blood, really i think content wise its closer to a T game with some creepy settings.
[citation][nom]Igot1forya[/nom]I just disagree with sales taxes in general. Lets see how this works...Raw Materials - Mine ores and sell to Foundry - *taxed*Foundry - filter/mold/forge/extrude/extract and sell to Supply Chain - *taxed*Supply Chain - Build simple components and sell to Manufacturer. - *taxed*Manufacturer - Create complex systems/services sell to dealer - *taxed*Dealer - Sell to end user or business - *taxed*End-User - Use product to end of life or resell on used market - *taxed*Where does it end! The taxes paid on these things end up being more than the goods cost to create![/citation]
i cant use the words exactly because this site would sanction me again... but a few years back the new 20$ bill was advertised, and they payed 20-50 million to adverse the new bill... they screw the money away most of the time... realistically, much of the tax we pay goes to not looking for a cheaper as good solution... where we see number like 800$ for a plunger, i wish tax was used for a better purpose, than maybe we wouldn't have so many taxes that amount to little more than social control
[citation][nom]Okrahoma[/nom]Actually, as an Oklahoma resident i can say stuff like this is pretty typical. I mean heck there is a law before the Senate now that would ban Pepsi from putting aborted fetuses in their soft drinks... (seriously)The ironic thing is that people like Fourkiller campagined on the idea of small goverment not meddling in your affairs... then they write laws like thisor the one that you cant use sharia law... in a state that is 99% christianor the one that you have to have an id to vote... even if your in military uniformor the one that they eliminate the income tax... without a way to make up the shortfallor the one that anyone who doesnt pass the 3rd grade reading test is retained or the one that makes english the offical language of the state (good thing this place was never a haven for native americans)[/citation]
sharia law is a law based on a religion right... im atheist, and would support anything banning its use, and this is before you look at countries that do use it where women who are raped get cained and in some cases killed, for having sex outside of marriage.
an id to vote is kind of no brainier if you think of the why, try to imagine how you could exploit the system. needing an id makes it harder.
i think income tax in general should be thrown out and re written... people making 20 mill + paying 13% and people making less than 100k paying 35%+ is sick to me.
being held back because you fail a test... you know i support this, i watched allot of people who should be held back move up... in one case to comply with a law, moved from 7th grade to freshmen year... this person died after senior year because he tried to jump from one car to another... if he didn't get basically a free pass, he may have still been alive today.
i was born, raised, and still live in america, wisconsin to be specific... i believe that to become a citizen, you should only have to have a few things,
1) no felony arrests in other countries for 10 years (from time of arrest, not time of release)
2) a 5 year probation, mostly to make sure you arent part of a criminal subculture (immigrants are more likely to join other country men even if its criminal or borderline criminal)
3) able to speak english, not fluently, but if you cant speak it fluently, that you are taking a class to teach you
that all i believe you need to be a citizen, a mostly clean record, a trial basis, and the ability to speak english. one of the people i know, their mom couldn't speak english, and honestly could not function outside of their home because of it.
[citation][nom]gm0n3y[/nom]I think that a very small tax ([/citation]
like others have said its a gateway... they are hoping there is little opposition, because getting the tax in innitaly is hard, raising it after is easy.
[citation][nom]millerm84[/nom]Yeah because there was never a car jacking or school shooting or a case of bulling before GTA. Ignorance seems to be the only measure to becoming a legislator.[/citation]
you know how they get funding right... corporations don't want someone smart in office, they want someone dumb they an manipulate. i'm not saying this is a corporate law he is making, just he is dumb and the reason why so many of his kind are in office.
[citation][nom]wiyosaya[/nom]Unfortunately, not every bullied person has the physical stature or mental temperament to confront those who bully them. If they did, I doubt bullying would be in the headlines so much these days.[/citation]
meh, the way most of my bullying was because i snapped after years of taking their crap, if the people didnt pull me off of the person i probably would have killed him.
here ill give a bit of backstory.
kinderguarden to first grade, not picked on at all... but in trouble most days because i screw up allot, mostly just a recess i don't get have had to sit down because i did something without thinking.
than we moved
first grade, i was the new kind, un athletic, and a loner because of it, so i was the target everyone messed with. because the boys where horrible to me, i sat by the girls.
first week, people are making fun of me, i gesture my hand in a fanning motion, they tell teacher i flipped them off, i get in trouble and have no idea why... week of no recess.
4 weeks of putting up with their crap later, first fight. get beaten by 3 people, and fight back, i cant do much as i'm week so i bite... teacher sees me biting, not them kicking and hitting me so a week of standing by the teacher helper at recess, they thought it was a punishment but for me it was a week of not dealing with their crap.
this goes on for 4 years... the pattern of me defending myself so i just stop, suddenly it becomes far less fun for them to do crap to me, but the dumbest of the dumb still do...
so another year, and school change for 6-12, 6th grade i was introduced to people i hate more than everyone at the old school combined... 1 and a half years later i snapped and most people realised not to screw with me any more, except one... lets just use first name, dustin. he continued till i fliped him over my back... and stopped till sophomore year where he snapped in shop after spitting im my face 4 times, and i spit in his once, he wasn't the brightest people, trying to fight someone who basically had an ice pick in their hand, i dont know how but i held out a beating without fighting back for a good 3 minutes... ice pick still in hand, if i fought i know i would have ended him right there. instead, i held him under my thumb for 3 years thanks to a few of my friends wanting to fight him, but me holding them back, and a threat of criminal assult charges.
and so you know, i was the weakest person in my school for a long time... and was probably still among the weakest even when i did get taller and grow some amount of muscle, hell till 8th grade most of the girls were still stronger than me... i just learned how to throw a punch, and how to use other parts of my body to do damage, like in the hallway, people tried to trip me often, i learned how to trip them without being tripped myself.
most bullies aren't use to taking a punch, so they will back off if you resist in any form, the ones who do know how to, will lose allot of support from the ones that don't, so at the very least, most of your problems are gone in one punch.
[citation][nom]millerm84[/nom]I really agree with this statement and if I ever find my child (or children if we have more) are being bullied I'll enroll them in a self defense class and let the school administration know they have 2 options keep their students safe or let my child defend themselves. I only got into one fight as a kid and that one fight stopped a nightmare of getting the crap kicked out of me. All we hear growing up is "kill them with kindness" that may work somewhere, but in my experience winning a fight is a lot faster and much less painful.[/citation]
lol, that's true... but don't send the kids to a martial art class, but to a real world defense class, as they will teach you real world ways that even small people and week ones can defend themselves, not a karate class that is mostly all for show.
the kill them with kindness approached worked for me too, but in a different way... i was better at making fun of myself than they were... i got board of people coming up with the rumors so i made them myself... trust me, when you go WAY to into detail of something that makes a person uncomfortable, they tend to back off fast. i cant go into detail because of site rules, but killing with kindness worked for me to some extent. also being the kind of person who can make a VERY convincing threat works too.