Bypassing caps? How about with wire?

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TonyP <TonyP@optus.net.com.au> wrote:
>"Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote in message
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>> What I am selling is the notion that measurements are only valuable if you
>> specifically design them to measure something that is audibly significant,
>> and that there are plenty of people out there designing measurements to
>> specifically avoid measuring something audibly significant. And that
>> therefore you can't believe random measurements quoted by some guy over
>the
>> internet without investigating where they came from and what was done to
>> find them.
>
>All quite true very often, but your other statement was just a waste of
>bits.

Next time I will be sure to add <<<WARNING: CONTAINS SARCASM>>> to my posts.
--scott

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"Stephen Sank" <bk11@thuntek.net> wrote in message
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> A totally classic example of this is headphones. For the last 30 or more
years, there has been
> an argument going on about how to measure the frequency response of
headphones. Some makers
> advocating the B&K artificial ear, some advocating a competing device, and
on & on. To this
> day, there is NO settled standard for how to measure headphone frequency
response, so headphone
> makers can literally invent response figures for their phones(when was the
last time you saw a
> response quote that wasn't at least 20Hz-20kHz?). The buyer has
absolutely no way to judge
> anything about the quality of any headphones but for subjective listening.
This is, no doubt,
> exactly how most manufacturers like it. I thus nominate headphone freq.
response as the king
> of all meaningless specs.

Not true. I believe most headphones will readily do 20Hz-20kHz if no dB
limits are stated, as they usually aren't.
And loudspeakers are far worse IMO.

TonyP.

 

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In article <41204ce5$0$3927$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> TonyP@optus.net.com.au writes:

> I believe most headphones will readily do 20Hz-20kHz if no dB
> limits are stated, as they usually aren't.

Which makes them at best incomplete and at worst, meaningless. So will
microphones. But few people are able to confirm the frequency response
curve even of a microphone that come with its own individually
measured and plotted pedigree. And if the frequency response is
pre-printed on the spec sheet, forget it!



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"Mike Rivers"


> Which makes them at best incomplete and at worst, meaningless.


** Reads like any of the Rivers Parrot's posts here.





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"Mike Rivers" <mrivers@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
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>
> In article <41204ce5$0$3927$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>
TonyP@optus.net.com.au writes:
>
> > I believe most headphones will readily do 20Hz-20kHz if no dB
> > limits are stated, as they usually aren't.
>
> Which makes them at best incomplete and at worst, meaningless. So will
> microphones. But few people are able to confirm the frequency response
> curve even of a microphone that come with its own individually
> measured and plotted pedigree. And if the frequency response is
> pre-printed on the spec sheet, forget it!

Which was my point. And how many speakers do you see with real, meaningful,
measured data?
At least the mics are usually a little better. Even an SM58 is a precision
instrument compared to the average speaker. Ditto for most headphones.

TonyP.

 

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"Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote in message
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> Next time I will be sure to add <<<WARNING: CONTAINS SARCASM>>> to my
posts.

OK, I usually enjoy a good gag. I look forward to seeing one.

TonyP.