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On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 01:40:32 GMT
In message <k62Bd.307446$HA.155244@attbi_s01>
nick c <n-chen@comcast.net> wrote:
> Confused wrote:
>
> > <snip> author information...wouldn't want to embarrass anyone...
> >
> > > There is a fine line between what is considered
> > > art and what is considered trash
> >
> >
> > I guess Picasso proved there was no line between trash
> > and art. Some of his best work came from trash heaps.
>
> That so?
Yes. That is so.
> What trash heaps did they come from?
Where ever he found one, and the heaps came
from other people's thrown way stuff.
> > > and rules have a great deal to do with creative acceptance.
> >
> > What is "creative acceptance"?
>
> What you like, you like.
There are no rules for that. ;^)
> > > IMOP, those who tend to think esoterically may oftentimes be
> > > confused as to not recognizing a rule is being applied in
> > > support of a technique which is being born. Oh, to burst
> > > self-made images of sophistication.
> >
> > Translation, please?
>
> Doesn't need one.
Ahhh... artistic writing...
> > > Begin at the beginning; what is art.
> > >
> > > Art is defined and accepted as being works of human creativity.
> >
> > If that is the definition of art, then there are NO rules.
>
> There are rules, but you have the option not to recognize them.
Perfect usenet comeback. Edumacated mumbo-jumbo.
> > > One of the recognized branches of art encompass, music,
> > > dance, literature, and painting. There are rules in
> > > each of these categories.
> >
> > (this should be interesting)
> >
> > > Dance: The rule of dance is rhythm. <snip sequencing>
> >
> > If there were *one* rule it would be balance.
>
> Don't know much about dancing, huh.
No, you don't. One cannot have rhythm without balance, so if there is
"a rule" then balance must take precedence over rhythm.
> > > Music: The rule of music is the musical scale.
> > > Within the use of the musical scale is the rule time.
> >
> > You're not a musician, huh.
>
> I play Clarinet.
[insert woodwind joke here - point made ;-]
> Judging from your comments you're not a musician. Huh.
Bzzzzzzt. Wrong.
(I never would have thought a musician would define THE RULE of music
because there isn't ONE rule.)
Time and scale are independent. The concept of a single "rule" for
music is a false concept. Encompasing time inside the structure of a
scale is false.
If there is a rule for any specific piece of music, it would be
"You either like it or you don't."
> > > Literature: The rule of literature is governed by style,
> > > requiring a subject.
> >
> > But, what is the rule?
>
> Hey, who else holds your hand during the day.
I *thought* you were simply trolling.
<SNIP>
Jeff
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 01:40:32 GMT
In message <k62Bd.307446$HA.155244@attbi_s01>
nick c <n-chen@comcast.net> wrote:
> Confused wrote:
>
> > <snip> author information...wouldn't want to embarrass anyone...
> >
> > > There is a fine line between what is considered
> > > art and what is considered trash
> >
> >
> > I guess Picasso proved there was no line between trash
> > and art. Some of his best work came from trash heaps.
>
> That so?
Yes. That is so.
> What trash heaps did they come from?
Where ever he found one, and the heaps came
from other people's thrown way stuff.
> > > and rules have a great deal to do with creative acceptance.
> >
> > What is "creative acceptance"?
>
> What you like, you like.
There are no rules for that. ;^)
> > > IMOP, those who tend to think esoterically may oftentimes be
> > > confused as to not recognizing a rule is being applied in
> > > support of a technique which is being born. Oh, to burst
> > > self-made images of sophistication.
> >
> > Translation, please?
>
> Doesn't need one.
Ahhh... artistic writing...
> > > Begin at the beginning; what is art.
> > >
> > > Art is defined and accepted as being works of human creativity.
> >
> > If that is the definition of art, then there are NO rules.
>
> There are rules, but you have the option not to recognize them.
Perfect usenet comeback. Edumacated mumbo-jumbo.
> > > One of the recognized branches of art encompass, music,
> > > dance, literature, and painting. There are rules in
> > > each of these categories.
> >
> > (this should be interesting)
> >
> > > Dance: The rule of dance is rhythm. <snip sequencing>
> >
> > If there were *one* rule it would be balance.
>
> Don't know much about dancing, huh.
No, you don't. One cannot have rhythm without balance, so if there is
"a rule" then balance must take precedence over rhythm.
> > > Music: The rule of music is the musical scale.
> > > Within the use of the musical scale is the rule time.
> >
> > You're not a musician, huh.
>
> I play Clarinet.
[insert woodwind joke here - point made ;-]
> Judging from your comments you're not a musician. Huh.
Bzzzzzzt. Wrong.
(I never would have thought a musician would define THE RULE of music
because there isn't ONE rule.)
Time and scale are independent. The concept of a single "rule" for
music is a false concept. Encompasing time inside the structure of a
scale is false.
If there is a rule for any specific piece of music, it would be
"You either like it or you don't."
> > > Literature: The rule of literature is governed by style,
> > > requiring a subject.
> >
> > But, what is the rule?
>
> Hey, who else holds your hand during the day.
I *thought* you were simply trolling.
<SNIP>
Jeff
/www.chapelhillnoir.com
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