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Tracy Wintermute <arrgh@greenapple.comedy> wrote:
> (hank alrich) wrote:
> > But omni is what they are going to use
> >to record their practices in order to learn how to get themselves
> >balanced well enough to do that live with the mic in cardioid.
> OK, I'm confused, but that's not so unusual. They are going to
> practice with one pattern, in order to learn how to use a different
> pattern? I'd appreciate it if you would elaborate on this; perhaps I
> just interpreted your post incorrectly. I've always been a big
> advocate of 'simulating that which one might be dealing with live'
> during rehearsals.
Me, too, but this isn't me trying to learn. I again emphasize the
completely amateur aspect of the project. Practices will outnumber
performances better than twenty to one. In order to get their act
together at this point in their experience, they will progress faster by
playing in a circle around that omni, so that they can interact
visually. This will also allow them to grasp the implications of The
Inverse Square Law vis a vis their individual distances from the mics.
So they will learn some things via omni, and thereafter, other things
via cardioid. But they need to be able to see each other at first. I
have played with these people.
So far, at their performances both they and their audiences have
benefited from not being able to hear the music so well. <g> They are
deeply loved as community members, so their audiences are completely
nonjudgemental about stuff that would drive RAPsters wild. People wind
up having fun and that is a valuable thing in America today. A very long
time will pass before that changes. I may even have to put the doctor
who plays banjo on the operating table for a rhythm implant. But I
digress...
> >The focus of my query is: what's newer and better for not more money
> >than an AT4050, which has been used successfully in this type of context
> >many times? I can get them one of those and not worry about it.
> Methinks you have answered your own question. Why reinvent the wheel,
> especially in context of the situation you have described? Do you like
> to worry?
I hate worrying. Worrying is my wife's job, and she was trained by her
mother. She is very good at it. But just because I may know that a
certain mic wll work okay for this doesn't mean something else as good
for less money hasn't shown up, and that I don't know about it. That's
all I was checking into here.
> To address your question which has so far been unaddressed, at least
> on my newserver;
> I have an AT 4050CM5, and have never had a chance to compare it to any
> other 4050, so I have no idea what the differences might or might not
> be. (Hey, I didn't say I was gonna answer it, just address it....)
I can't see much difference in a quick review of the specs at the A_T
site. Certainly nothing significant in this context.
> >Y'all have no idea how long and how gently I will have to work with
> >these dear friends to guide them toward relaxed and useful
> >self-recording.
> Oh, I think I might have an idea.
> You ever attempted inseminating a cow with a pyrex cylinder full of
> grand champion bull sperm?
I ain't ever been in charge of the Pyrex, but I have helped manage the
other end of the cow. Consider the guy who must deal with the donor
bull. "Just hunch up to this inflatable cow, big buddy..."
Thanks for your comments, Tracy, and same to everyone else in the
thread.
--
ha
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