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Rob Reedijk wrote:
> hank alrich wrote:
> > Paul Stamler wrote:
> > The focus of my query is: what's newer and better for not more money
> > than an AT4050, which has been used successfully in this type of context
> > many times? I can get them one of those and not worry about it. It's not
> > really a large cap mic, but consequently, it's also slightly less ragged
> > off-axis.
> > But if someone knows of a better mic _for this particular application_,
> > in the exact manner I have presented it, I'd like to know about it. <g>
> > We're not going to Neumann's, X/Y, etc., with these people at this time.
> > Banjos and dobros and such already present them with a full-on
> > educational plate. Their recording is to help speed that education.
> > Y'all have no idea how long and how gently I will have to work with
> > these dear friends to guide them toward relaxed and useful
> > self-recording. <g> But that's what I'm about here.
> Hank...correct me if I am wrong....you have a BLUE Lolly/451. Have
> you tried this? In my experience it is a fairly wide pattern cardioid.
Indeed!
> It does really well with instruments that are several feet away.
It sure does. One of my best-ever acoustic guitar sounds was captured in
a hurry by putting the B6/C451 at arm's length, literally, and
playing/singing some tunes wihtout checking what I was getting, mic
positioning, anything. It didn't amtter, all I needed was content. I got
a lot more than that.
> I can see only two possible problems: Will it have enough low end
> response? And I think that is gets weird off-axis in the very very near
> field.
Monte McGuire once mentioned the B6's pattern here; I emailed him
asking, semi-jokingly, "What pattern?" It is both pretty danged wide,
and a bit weird off-axis, but so very sweet on-axis.
> Or are we pricing to high at this point?
They would buy what I tell them to, but the point is this isn't going to
be handled by me. They live across the county and need their own stuff.
I'm their good friend and coach here, gave the guy his first banjo
lessons, am helping the gal understand that dobro, indeed bluegrass or
any kind of folk music, is not some kind of deeply intellectual
exercise, that one must first do, and therefrom develop questions, not
the other way 'round, and so forth.
They will be tracking into a Tascam DP-01FX ("without all the freakin'
menus" - this recorder was designed for these folks <g>), at first just
mono, whole-band for practice, and thereafter a little overdubbing at
home to develop harmonies.
Their performances are casual things, done mostly for hometown medical
benefits and parties. They had a band memeber who wents nuts buying
stuff, spent maybe $20K on PA, recording gear, and then wound up too
busy to commute from the nearest large city to play with them. So their
guitar player has bought herself a PA and some recording gear, but she
also lives in that nearby city, so they need a small recording rig for
their practices and one mic that is better than the B1 the guitar player
bought for stage work.
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ha
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