Connecting a Nakamechi Re 1 integrated to a Pioneer Av 918 that does not have pre outs?

[Mthumann]

Is there a way to add the power amp of an integrated with pre outs/main ins to an av receiver with no rca outs? AV receiver(Pioneer 918 vsx) does have speaker B terminals which could be used with a speaker level to low level rca converter. I could run that into the nakamichi? How? I want to separably power my towers monitors with the Pioneer and the woofer bases with the nakamamichi' s 2 channel amp. Is this possible? And no the wiring will be separate. One line to monitors from AV and one line from Nakamichi to the Woofer bases.

 

[jsmithepa]

Pioneer must have pre outs, or monitor, or rec, or tentatively you can go: source --> Nak --> pioneer.

Bottoms line, high-lever converter for this not a good idea.

 

[Mthumann]

Pioneer must have pre outs, or monitor, or rec, or tentatively you can go: source --> Nak --> pioneer.

Bottoms line, high-lever converter for this not a good idea.

Thanks!-In the time being I tried it and somehow I am getting power to the woofers from Nak. It does add some bass. Im sure one single signal path is best but its all I have now., I went AV speaker B --->spkr line rca adapter-->right left rca --> Nak AUX 1. Volume is controlled by AV receiver successfully.
This power signal from Nak can be boosted with Naks own volume control but I think this is to be fixed at one spot.. I was just curious if I should or even COULD try to have routed directly into the Nak MAin in (and take jumper out from main to pre)). Would this be a more direct way to tap into amp power and then Nak Volume control would be mute? Again not ideal but I want to get max power for my 2.1 system for now.

 

[americanaudiophile]

You can connect one of these
http/www.crutchfield.com/p_142LOC80/Scosche-LOC80.html
to convert the front speaker level out to line level, Connect it to the amp input on the Nak RE1. Connect the speakers to the RE1.
You will need to adjust the level of the sub if you are running in 2.1.The center, rear and sub if you are running 5.1.
All the controls on the RE1, except power and speaker AB selector if it has one, are now bypassed.
You don't get the full benefit of the RE1 since the signal still has to go through the amp in the receiver.

 

[Mthumann]

You can connect one of these
http/www.crutchfield.com/p_142LOC80/Scosche-LOC80.html
to convert the front speaker level out to line level, Connect it to the amp input on the Nak RE1. Connect the speakers to the RE1.
You will need to adjust the level of the sub if you are running in 2.1.The center, rear and sub if you are running 5.1.
All the controls on the RE1, except power and speaker AB selector if it has one, are now bypassed.
You don't get the full benefit of the RE1 since the signal still has to go through the amp in the receiver.

Thank you and great thoughts-. So you are saying just give up on the Pioneer AV amp's ( 95 w) capabilities all together? I only utilize 2 channel stereo and sub.Your solution seems to imply the Pioneer will now be just sending line level signal only from its fronts and wire both sets of wires from Nakamechi speaker posts? The Nak is higher rated and better quality but the power is actually a little less than the pioneer.Because currently I use the pioneer fronts to drive the monitors bi wired and I use the pioneer's Speaker B out to a line level converter to one of the Nakamichi's AUx inputs. I do get some power ( Nak rated at 80 W into 8 ohms) to the woofer bases. With this set up I can turn the pioneer A speakers off and adjust the adapter mini screw and nak volume. It sounds muddy obviously but I'm only hearing woofers. I just wanted to be sure to get the best quality signal using BOTH amps. But I assume with your response just use the Nakamichi's to drive everything? AV will still be the input, the volume, tone and balance controller?
And yes I realize best overall solution is to get an AV with pre outs, or invest in new separates like Emotiva!