Could Nintendo Be Forced to Go iOS, Android?

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warmon6

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[citation][nom]cobra5000[/nom]I guess you didn't read the article. Sega is doing just fine.[/citation]

No, you didn't understand what he was saying.

It wasn't response to how well sega is doing, it a response of the path sega took.

Aka, he saying "Nintendo will not leave the console hardware market and only make software like sega did".

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As for my opinion, I'm certain that they wont touch it unless everyone switch to phones for gaming... Meaning no one buying consoles anymore from any one.

As Nintendo history shows, they only changed when there a major shift in Interest and threat of going under. Once being a card company and Now being a game console and game maker, the change only happened when people lost interest in playing cards.

So for now, I'll take the "I'll see it when I believe it" attitude. I could happen, but i'm doubtful it will be any time soon.

[citation][nom]anonymous616[/nom]Nintendo has had one down year in its 120+ year history. I think it's doing ok. Nintendo now has a higher market cap than Sony, yet I don't see you reporting on that....[/citation]

they've had a few more than one down year, but your right, Nintendo is doing fairly well given how long they been around.
 
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I don't get why they can't do both. They should somewhat ditch the DS platform, perhaps, keep the Wii and Wii U and whatever else, and introduce a platform on iOS and Android as well. The iOS and Android could bring about the DS games and such, like Pokemon or w/e while the Wii can do what the Wii does, which is important as it's what iOS and Android can't do. Upgrading the console should have been a matter of upgrading the ways you can interact, such as enhancing the motion control, rather than introducing the touch screen controller in my opinion. Maybe should have allowed a way to replace that controller with a smartphone, if they really wanted to. Either way, I still don't think they're doing that bad, but they can always do better.
 

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[citation][nom]YahooWizard[/nom]I don't get why they can't do both. They should somewhat ditch the DS platform, perhaps, keep the Wii and Wii U and whatever else, and introduce a platform on iOS and Android as well. The iOS and Android could bring about the DS games and such, like Pokemon or w/e while the Wii can do what the Wii does, which is important as it's what iOS and Android can't do. Upgrading the console should have been a matter of upgrading the ways you can interact, such as enhancing the motion control, rather than introducing the touch screen controller in my opinion. Maybe should have allowed a way to replace that controller with a smartphone, if they really wanted to. Either way, I still don't think they're doing that bad, but they can always do better.[/citation]
the day nintendo thinks of ditching a controller for smartphone is the day I lose all my hope for console gaming.
 

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So many fanboys. The Wii U will go the way of the gamecube and all you tards will cry hard and proclaim it was a success.
 

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[citation][nom]mazty[/nom]So many fanboys. The Wii U will go the way of the gamecube and all you tards will cry hard and proclaim it was a success.[/citation]

…But the Gamecube was a success.
 

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Our family and friends doled out multiple tablets to their children. Not one WiiU... and not surprising given the cost difference in games and the fact that the tablets are more flexible.

I know which i'd pick if I could only choose one and I don't find the recent poor sales a surprise.

The gamecube probably turned a minor profit... but sales were never that good. It did worse than the N64, playstation 1 and 2 and the Xbox.
 

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I fail to see problem with Nintendo porting some old games to Android and IOS. Why not introduce them to perhaps a whole new audience and increase their bottom line at the same time. I don't see them producing new games for any hardware than their own though.
 

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Tablets and smartphones are good if you can connect your currently owned joypads to them. I can't wait for the day when all our games work on all devices that are powerful enough.
 

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[citation][nom]eiskrystal[/nom]I know which i'd pick if I could only choose one and I don't find the recent poor sales a surprise.[/citation]

Why limit yourself to just one option?
And the sales are actually very close to the launch figures for Wii itself. Where did you hear they were poor?

[citation][nom]mazty[/nom]So many fanboys. The Wii U will go the way of the gamecube and all you tards will cry hard and proclaim it was a success.[/citation]
Geez, spreading the negativity and ignorance here too?
 

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why would the japanese move to a shit US owned systems like ios and android?

this is stupid to say and to suggest.

what you want to consume the whole world market? isnt it enough the the shit Microsoft already killed all operating systems in the world ?

Japan doesnt NEED the US market at ALL. less income? who cares the WHOLE WORLD loves NINTENDO GAMES.

you people should goto Japan and see the products they have there for Japanese and they never export them .. they are 10 years in advance from what you all have. and they DONT CARE to market it in USA...and people DROOL to import them from Japan ... you think you have all product line from panasonic ? Sony ? Nec ? Mitsubishi ?
they just give you the crap and keep the cool items. go and check their japanese sites

so shut up. enough of US Arrogance
 
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The Wii U is a POS. Stop denying it you Nintendo fan boys!

It has this awful, huge, bulky controller with a freaking LCD in the middle of it that can't even last for a decent gaming session! Personally, I like the original Wii better. However, I'm an old school gamer who grew up on the Atari, NES, and SMS. Why in the world should I have to use 2-3 different controllers AND jump around like an idiot, just to play a game!? Just give me a 2 or 3 button controller with a SINGLE D-pad, and I'm good. I don't need online crap, I don't need all these other attachments that cost $$$, just a freaking console that doesn't require ANY updates and a controller.

Consoles have simply lost touch with what a "console" was\is supposed to be, The Wii U displays this proudly.
 

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Why limit yourself to just one option?
And the sales are actually very close to the launch figures for Wii itself. Where did you hear they were poor?

For a lot of kids one option is all they get. This year tablets were in.

The sales did well at first, however the figures seem to have dropped off more sharply than expected. A simple google search will find you the relevant articles.

Things may improve of course and Nintendo has always done better in Japan so you have to watch out for a US news bias... but I wouldn't be putting my money into Nintendo shares this year.
 

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[citation][nom]mazty[/nom]So many fanboys. The Wii U will go the way of the gamecube and all you tards will cry hard and proclaim it was a success.[/citation]
I really wish it would go the way of the Gamecube, considering the Gamecube was a successful system with a lot of really good, unique games. Unfortunately, I haven't seen anything for the Wii U that excites me. It's another Wii, but the people are bored of the gimmicks.
 

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[citation][nom]eiskrystal[/nom]For a lot of kids one option is all they get. This year tablets were in.The sales did well at first, however the figures seem to have dropped off more sharply than expected. A simple google search will find you the relevant articles.Things may improve of course and Nintendo has always done better in Japan so you have to watch out for a US news bias... but I wouldn't be putting my money into Nintendo shares this year.[/citation]
If all the articles you find are of the quality of the source material here, it's no wonder you think the sales are bad.

Sales are still quite good. Overall, only the Wii and PS2 are tracking ahead (granted it becomes blurry with staggered console launches).

Europe is the only territory that seems weak but that's partially intentional as the system takes the most losses in Europe and Nintendo has never had massive successes there to begin with (the Wii being their only home console success). Because of this, they have focused on the US and Japan. They even stated before launch that the US would get the bulk of shipments during the launch window (Nov - March).

Anybody telling you the sales are bad are either ignorant (by definition, not as an insult) or has a bias. It's at 2.2 million units sold already after just 5 weeks of tracked sales. It should end the year at 2.8 million. There's not a home console maker in history that would call that bad.
 

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[citation][nom]dormantreign[/nom]Anyone take the back plate off the gamepad? You can fit a larger bat in there, id say we'll get one firsts half of 2013.[/citation]
I think the issue of the battery is one of weight, not room. The gamepad is pretty light and manageable now, but with a larger battery it might get heavy. I can understand why they chose this route.

[citation][nom]eiskrystal[/nom]Our family and friends doled out multiple tablets to their children. Not one WiiU... and not surprising given the cost difference in games and the fact that the tablets are more flexible.I know which i'd pick if I could only choose one and I don't find the recent poor sales a surprise.The gamecube probably turned a minor profit... but sales were never that good. It did worse than the N64, playstation 1 and 2 and the Xbox.[/citation]
A tablet is a different device from a home console, but I'll humor it. There are $10 games on the Wii U's market. Not as many as iOS, but the quality on them is pretty high so far. And flexibility? I'm not sure of the age range of these children, but I don't see children needing to do a whole lot of networking or productivity, what do they need "flexibility" for? Wii U can do streaming video and internet pretty well, even 3DS for an actual purpose comparable device. What baffles me the most is what kind of responsible adult would hand a child a device as fragile as a tablet that has fairly unrestricted access to anything, including one click app purchases, porn, and online predators. Tablets are not children's toys.

Just to throw in, the Gamecube was not successful due to the market, not due to any fault of the device. They still had lost 3rd party support for the whole n64 issue. People went to where the sequels to the games they had loved on the ps1 were.

[citation][nom]JustPosting99[/nom]The Wii U is a POS. Stop denying it you Nintendo fan boys! It has this awful, huge, bulky controller with a freaking LCD in the middle of it that can't even last for a decent gaming session! Personally, I like the original Wii better. However, I'm an old school gamer who grew up on the Atari, NES, and SMS. Why in the world should I have to use 2-3 different controllers AND jump around like an idiot, just to play a game!? Just give me a 2 or 3 button controller with a SINGLE D-pad, and I'm good. I don't need online crap, I don't need all these other attachments that cost $$$, just a freaking console that doesn't require ANY updates and a controller. Consoles have simply lost touch with what a "console" was\is supposed to be, The Wii U displays this proudly.[/citation]

The controller isn't really bulky and can be plugged in for longer game sessions, you clearly haven't even used one. I find it interesting large and varied controllers and wires are an issue for you if you come from the Atari age or that you prefer the Wii even though the Wii U's control does not involve as much "jumping around like an idiot". Either way, most people were not satisfied with the level of control an atari controller provided, that's why it evolved. I can see some of your points like the fact a network shouldn't be needed, but again, these are features that gamers demanded. Nintendo has attempted to make a network more like PSN/XBox because that was what the customer base wanted, but still in line with how Nintendo wants their product to be viewed. This new network and the Miiverse has an...I don't know, Animal Crossing feel to it? Childish, maybe, but still quite functional. Pulling up a manual in game or asking for immediate advice on game specific services are definitely good features.
 

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I assume someone told them that you only have to do the 1 hour update a single time, not every time you use it? Oh the woes of having an hour of your backbround (unattended) time used up. It's as though it took a week or something. Get a life.
 

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At several points the writer expresses the opinion that console gaming was under threat from mobile gaming on Android and IOS. I don't think that's exactly true. Mobile (handheld) gaming us under threat from IOS and Android games. But home consoles are in no danger. There will always be a market for a home console that can output a high quality experience for someone who just wants to kick back on the couch and enjoy a decent game. I think the PS4 and Xbox Next will do just fine when they come out towards the end of the year but I also thing that the Vita and even the 3DS are effectively doomed. People can get a comparable or even better mobile experience from their phones and so handheld consoles are effectively EOL.
 
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