Craigslist Under Fire for Trafficking Underage Sex

[demonhorde665]

[citation][nom]CoryInJapan[/nom]I fai lto see how this is craigs fualt?...I guess since they are doing a horrible job on getting the real criminals here..THey want to get anyone to blame to make themselves feel justified.[/citation]


its craig's list fault because they hide the identies of the peopel doing this , futher more they give them a location to do this at . again take teh murder example , if you knowingly take a murder in , lie about who he/she is to cops , and then on top of that , allow him/her to kill and store the boddys of peopel at your hosue ,by all LAW interpretatiosn you are jsut as guilty of teh murders as the murderer is. so yes this shit IS craig's list's fault , and YES they should be held accountable.

 

[Guest]

once again.. instead of going after the people doing the act, they go after the people that provide a service that bad guys abuse.

next time i speed in my car, i want the police to send the ticket to the automaker. after-all they make it possible for me to speed in a car. Does that logic work?

 

[Guest]

The detractors of Craigslist completely miss the real point. Use of Craigslist by criminals, makes it actually much easier to identify them and gather evidence against them. The "Craigslist Killer" was caught very quickly because he did his stuff on the List. Otherwise it would have likely been years of serial murders before he would be dtected. Lowlife traffickers of women should now be much easier to detect and apprehend because they are on the List. The "independent" women as well as the open "escort services" are very aware of their competition and watch them intensely. If they come across any involuntary servitude for their avocation, they have no compunction to turn them into the authorities. Another issue is that the traffickers are in clear violation of the 13th Amendment of the Constitution. Their actions need to be prosecuted as a serious Federal offense. My personal belief is that it should be a capital offense.

 

[acadia11]

[citation][nom]demonhorde665[/nom]its craig's list fault because they hide the identies of the peopel doing this , futher more they give them a location to do this at . again take teh murder example , if you knowingly take a murder in , lie about who he/she is to cops , and then on top of that , allow him/her to kill and store the boddys of peopel at your hosue ,by all LAW interpretatiosn you are jsut as guilty of teh murders as the murderer is. so yes this shit IS craig's list's fault , and YES they should be held accountable.[/citation]


Liberals cry what? If this is about being liberal or conservative, in the same vain, then you and your gun toting cowboys should turn in every firearm you own, becuase, guns are used to commit crimes. And the car companies should stop making cars because cars are used to traffic the women. This isn't about liberal or conservative, the fact, remains that cops and police officers should put the dunkin' donuts down and go catch a criminal instead of saying that it's craiglists fault. Human trafficking has existed forever, and craig list did not create it, or even make it any easier, the difference is as someone pointed out, it's much more in your face, because, people have alot more access to information in our wired world.

As one poster, put it, having something out of site, underground, does not solve the problem, it just makes conservatards like yourself sleep better at night, because, you aren't faced with the realities of the situation.

In addition, craigslist postings on adult section, are not anonymous, it requires a subscription and a credit card. As law enforcement a paper trail like use of a credit card is pretty freaking easy to follow.

 

[sparia1]

[citation][nom]ryanjm[/nom]What a retarded request. So it's Craigslist's fault that some guy kidnapped you and sold you into sexual slavery? If he couldn't sell you on Craigslist, he would have sold you on any number of adult escort websites. It's like arguing alcohol shouldn't be sold anywhere because occasionally some underage people are able to buy it.[/citation]

you know.... based on your logic, we should allow these advertisements on TV because... hey, if we ban it from TV they will just find another means to do so.

the point is to at least attempt to make it harder for these things to occur even if it isn't completely successful.

 

[covigt]

I'd mostly blame the parent(s)/legal guardian(s)

 

[daship]

If your forced into sex, bite the guys dick off, when he goes to the hospital, he will be busted.

 

[sparia1]

[citation][nom]daship[/nom]If your forced into sex, bite the guys dick off, when he goes to the hospital, he will be busted.[/citation]

may work in a rape situation, but from what it sounds like here.... you bite something off someone goes to the hospital and your PIMP kills you

 

[Guest]

What's the big deal?

 

[acadia11]

[citation][nom]sparia1[/nom]you know.... based on your logic, we should allow these advertisements on TV because... hey, if we ban it from TV they will just find another means to do so.the point is to at least attempt to make it harder for these things to occur even if it isn't completely successful.[/citation]

We don't ban it on TV, people, buy commercials for 916 numbers, etc ... late night spots, and so on, it's just the average pimp isn't going to spend $50K for 30 seconds of air time to promote sex with an underage girl. There is no ban against doing so.

The point is, that , it's not craigslist that makes it easier or harder. The prevelance of underage prostitution has not increased or decreased, what has changed is that common folks are now faced with the reality that it exists. It's about information, it's like getting war footage from vietnam, or that kid who sent out the video of US soldiers slaughtering Afghan civilians, and is now being held by MP for leaking government secrets, the fact, of the matter is so long as people don't see it, they assume it doesn't exist. And that's the attitude here with Craigslist, not having an adult section, in Craigslist will not make it harder, nor does having an adult section in Craigslist make it easier, it really has little bearing on the act.

The reality is the only end if there ever could be one, is police, FBI, with the help of US Tax payers going after said criminals, who would face much stiffer penalties than they do now. Would it end it no, but it would be more of a detterent. But the point is this idea that it's craigslist promoting or making easier or this or that, is all bogus, this is not the cause, or even a blip on the radar as to finding a solution to the problem.

The girls who wrote the letter, simply, feel powerless and the reality is that the cops aren't going to go after the criminals who perpetrate the acts, because, we don't give a $hit that much about this crime unless it's forced in our face. And even then, what was it, the rich guy in Palm Springs who basically had is his own private escort service of underage girls, who got probation, because, he's ultra-connected and ultra-rich, and he was abusing girls from the wrong side of the tracks.

People don't give a ***k, that's all there is to it, most of these girls come from broken homes, or are homeless, or are ... whatever, it's the same pieces of $hits who say well my tax money shouldn't be set up to help the people who don't have because well they made their choices, they didn't pull themselves up by their boot straps, theydidn't ... short of STFU, it's due to a lack of care by society as a whole, and not this pretend , oh ... let's attack Craigslist care. It means finding real solutions and spending real money, and giving a real a $hit. Otherwise, get off your hi-horse.

 

[CTPAHHIK]

Quite a few good posts you got, Acadia - put things into perspective.

 

[cp8427]

This pisses me off. I mean seriously pisses me off to another level. I've witnessed sex trafficking in the place I used to work, day and night. It made me want to kill my boss. I couldn't do anything about it. It just goes to show how corrupt some law enforcement agencies are. I truly feel bad for all of the women that are forced into this life. I was even able to interview some of them. The ones I really felt sorry for were the ones forced into prostitution. They'd sit in the lobby and cry their hearts out, still crying even after leaving. This really is a screwed up world we live in.

 

[demonhorde665]

[citation][nom]acadia11[/nom]Liberals cry what? If this is about being liberal or conservative, in the same vain, then you and your gun toting cowboys should turn in every firearm you own, becuase, guns are used to commit crimes. And the car companies should stop making cars because cars are used to traffic the women. This isn't about liberal or conservative, the fact, remains that cops and police officers should put the dunkin' donuts down and go catch a criminal instead of saying that it's craiglists fault. Human trafficking has existed forever, and craig list did not create it, or even make it any easier, the difference is as someone pointed out, it's much more in your face, because, people have alot more access to information in our wired world.As one poster, put it, having something out of site, underground, does not solve the problem, it just makes conservatards like yourself sleep better at night, because, you aren't faced with the realities of the situation.In addition, craigslist postings on adult section, are not anonymous, it requires a subscription and a credit card. As law enforcement a paper trail like use of a credit card is pretty freaking easy to follow.[/citation]

i'mnto a gun toting cowboy , infact i'mneither liberalnor conservative ,ask me both extremes are rather stupid , but this is a matter of interpreting the law and i'm a by teh book word for word interpreter myself , in which case craig'slist is responsible for this

 

[gm0n3y]

Now if we just legalized and regulated prostitution, this would be much easier to control.

 

[joebob2000]

An open letter to Craig Newmark:

Dear Craig (and your list),

Why do bad things happen to good people?

Sincerely,

Naive public itching for someone to blame

 

[justinjkiss]

ok i didnt read everybodys comments.

Why doesnt the government setup a sting and buy the girls and arrest the guy that drops them off. Put all the sick perverts making a fortune in jail!!! Problem solved. the criminals wont be able to move to another site until they get out of jail

 

[acadia11]

[citation][nom]demonhorde665[/nom]i'mnto a gun toting cowboy , infact i'mneither liberalnor conservative ,ask me both extremes are rather stupid , but this is a matter of interpreting the law and i'm a by teh book word for word interpreter myself , in which case craig'slist is responsible for this[/citation]

What imaginary law? There is no law that says Craigslist is responsible, no more than there is law that says remington is responsible when a murder is committed with a gun of their brand.

 

[beachbod]

[citation][nom]ryanjm[/nom]It's like arguing alcohol shouldn't be sold anywhere because occasionally some underage people are able to buy it.[/citation]
No its like arguing that a store that sells alcohol to minors should be shut down.

[citation][nom]tapnick[/nom]People will always find a way to bad things.[/citation]
Just because people will always be able to find a way doesnt mean you should set up a gumball machine equivalent of sex slaves.

 

[Guest]

Ridiculous! sites like http/www.adultsearch.com/ have just as many Escorts posting, but no one bothers them. Why craigslist? Personally, I like getting my roomates & hookers in the same place.

 

[acadia11]

[citation][nom]beachbod[/nom]No its like arguing that a store that sells alcohol to minors should be shut down.
Just because people will always be able to find a way doesnt mean you should set up a gumball machine equivalent of sex slaves.[/citation]


Yes you should!!!!