Question Dell Precision 16 7680 vs Lenovo P16 Gen 3 vs other contenders? — the best bang for your buck for office/business/logistic/investment work/etc.

[tgchan]

Hello,

My brother is looking to invest in a new laptop for another few years. Since, he won't be gaming, rendering videos, etc., a dedicated GPU is not a must. Actually it might be even a better option = no overheating, more space inside, etc., but I don't know.

After some reading we have opted for those two series, but we're open for any other suggestions as well. From what I've read Dell is not that great and many people hate them, have trouble with them, etc. The warranty is great though (what I read).

If you have any experience with the current/past series, brand ,etc. every bit of information would be very helpful.

Since he wants this laptop to last him for at least 5+ years, we have opted for 64GB RAM, and some fast CPU to go along with it.

He browses a lot of carts at the same time, ChatGPT, etc. His current laptop =

HP ProBook 470 G5

... is a bit sluggish at times, keyboard giving up, heating up with CPU usage of 100%, you know... your typical bs laptop experience lol

I would call his work he does on a laptop a typical office/business stuff. He works in logistics so he has a few programs opened up at all times as well.

This is why it needs to be brisk as hell, so he can jump in-between everything without any hiccups./

Windows 11 will definitely not help with the task, but it's a must.

Gaming PCs are rather easy in comparison with laptops lol. I have no clue about them.

Once again, any past/current experience, suggestions, info., etc. will be of great help to narrow down some potential.

 

[LordVile]

What would it be so different between a high-spec consumer laptop vs a workstation. Lesser built quality?

Not really they’re just for different things. Generally workstations tend to be larger, louder and have worse battery life. Consumer laptops are typically smaller and are more optimised for the form factor.

Basically a workstation laptop is trying to fit a desktop system into a more practical package to transport. A consumer laptop is actually usable as a laptop.

 

[tgchan]

Current pick:

https://www.sklep-lenovo.pl/notebook-lenovo-thinkpad-p16s-gen-4-21qr003cpb.html

Price:
https://www.x-rates.com/table/?from=PLN&amount=8649


Any againsts?

 

[COLGeek]

Solid choice. I have one very similar and it performs very well for my uses.

 

[tgchan]

I've found this MSI laptop that has much better CPU, a dGPU, and it's cheaper as well. A slightly slower RAM though.

https://www.x-kom.pl/porownanie/1364927


I guess compared to Lenovo, I would be sacrificing build quality. I wonder to what extend...

If I knew that price difference, even without a dGPU, all went into quality components of that Lenovo ThinkPad P16s Gen 4, I would still choose it.


Not sure why, but even though this MSI is so much better deal (spec-wise), it strikes me as something that can break quickly. I mean it has much better hardware so they had to save their money somewhere. Unless Lenovo is just charging more for worse hardware.


Also, I have learnt that you are meant to clean laptops regularly lol. I've never done it, and my brother? Absolutely no way he has ever done it.

I do use my vacuum cleaner from time to time and suck what I can out of vents of my super old PC, and some old Dell laptop which I barely use, but I've never opened a laptop, and to be honest I don't think I would ever do it. Maybe after a few years after warranty expiration and some performance issues I would force myself to do it.


I mean how do companies expect consumers to clean them if they cannot open them up without voiding their warranties?

P.S.

I read some posts, and even ASUS_USA chimed in that you actually can.

I would still not risk it though as stores like to use everything they can just not to repair it. A bit of a grey area, so to speak/

 

[COLGeek]

Personally, I would not recommend MSI. Asus builds better systems, if you are looking at other options.