DNS Provision Pulled From SOPA, Protect IP

[Guest]

this is a talk from the german hacker conference 28c3 (presenter is american). apart from being a very very good talk in general (no powerpoint and he still gets his point across 😛), he does an excellent job of describing how fucked up the anti piracy movement is.
http/youtu.be/HUEvRyemKSg

 

[Guest]

I see a lot of angry kids leaving their usual derogatory language in these comments but one thing I hardly ever see are any solutions to the problems that SOPA brings up. Most of us have automobiles that can go way over the posted speed limits but that doesn't mean we can disregard those limits and drive anyway we want. Just because you can pirate songs, movies, and software doesn't mean you will abide by the current piracy laws and refrain from doing it. It's human nature to take as much as is available without using restraint and so laws have to be put in place because of human laziness to respect other people's property.

 

[drwho1]

"After consultation with industry groups across the country, I feel we should remove (DNS) blocking from the Stop Online Piracy Act so that the [U.S. House Judiciary] Committee can further examine the issues surrounding this provision," Smith said in a statement released by his office.

"We will continue to look for ways to ensure that foreign Web sites cannot sell and distribute illegal content to U.S. consumers," he added.

the bold section completely contradicts the other part.

is like saying, we know this is wrong, but we will continue to finding ways to get away with it.

 

[eddieroolz]

Remember: This guy is responsible for copyright infringement on his own home page. He can't be taken seriously.

 

[Infectedkid6]

I think people forget that we live in a capitalistic world, where EVERYTHING is for sale. These politicians are individuals selling themselves to the highest bidder and once they have sold themselves they work to pass laws or regulations for the winning bidder. This is the reason why SOPA and PIPA are being pushed, because the people behind the bill sold themselves to corporations that believe piracy is the reason they aren't earning more revenue per year. The current state of our nation (USA) sickens me deeply. When an individual, group of people, body of government or the like values MONEY over everything else that these obscene and utterly out of control bills, laws or regulations are being passed for the sole purpose of increasing income; you need to stop and ask yourself what is medically wrong with these people. The monetary system was a game created by humans, and now the creators have become addicted to their own creation, and it is that addiction that is driving the world into chaos and destruction. The most addictive substance on the planet is Money itself, and there are billions of people who continue to use it despite the negative consequences associated with it.

 

[xythrax4420]

@infectedkid6 well maybe you should just gimmie all of your money so i can protect ya from the negative consequences associated with it.

 

[livebriand]

What these big companies don't realize is that piracy isn't as big of an issue as they think it is. Some people who pirate wouldn't buy the content anyway. Some people who pirate later buy the content because when they pirated it they decided that they liked it. Some people pirate because of DRM but would pay otherwise. And yes, some people pirate just because they can but would pay otherwise. Charging high prices and making crappy products in a lot of cases might be why people aren't willing to pay...

 

[danielravennest]

You cannot stop "piracy" without stopping all communication online. For example:

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:de4b63524c5df5be886ad5cb494533e29457e15e

Will start* a Linux Mint torrent from The Pirate Bay, which is legal, cause it's open source software. But it could just as easily have been a movie or Photshop CS5. So to prevent sharing, you would not only have to stop "pirate websites", but also every comment system, every email, anything that could send one line of text.

*Note: the magnet link above works if you have Firefox 9 and uTorrent 3.1 installed, it may not work for other browsers or torrent programs.

 

[spookie]

hahahaha yea and I thought the South African government is full of idiots hahaha

 

[poxenium]

Why not shut down the internet? It seems that selling products is more important to the USA than global intellectual progress or freedom of speech.
The internet will never be fully controllable, because "pirates" will simply switch to portable media, just like the internet's early stages with circulating floppy disks.

 

[Guest]

This is why you never teach old politicians computer skills. It's the one place they usually can't get into.

 

[TheZander]

[citation][nom]kinggraves[/nom]Any form of SOPA that could possibly do anything about piracy will kill the internet. Any form of SOPA that won't hurt the internet will not affect piracy. There is no changes that will make it work. It's cementing the door shut so burglars cant get in. You also cant get out. You have to leave a doorway open and secure it with other means.[/citation]

Amen. I posted this to my facebook. I hope you don't mind. It's true!!

 

[Guest]

I would want piracy to stop, but not like this. SOPA is just terrible

 

[Vorador2]

They won't stop at nothing until they get SOPA to pass. Here in Spain Sinde law was passed "hidden" in a package of economic related laws by direct pressure of EEUU government (literally they said "pass the law or enter the 301 Report list countries" and the new government caved in) and it's a copycat of SOPA.

 

[mayne92]

"We will continue to look for ways to ensure that foreign Web sites cannot sell and distribute illegal content to U.S. consumers"

WTF?! Lamest excuse for control of the Internet I have ever heard.

 

[gorehound]

If they pass these Bills then I hope the hackers of the World create a nightmare for any of the supporters of this BS.I will support myself any form of civil dis-obediance I can do for the cause of our Freedom as our founding fathers wanted us to have./

 

[gm0n3y]

I personally think that the government should be working to deregulate the internet. I want it to be the wild west. I don't mind having laws against certain actions (creating viruses, spam, hacking for profit, child porn, etc) but the way the internet actually works should be as straight forward and free as possible.

 

[Northwestern]

Piracy will still happen even if SOPA/PIPA are passed. The least the companies can do is market the games/movies/whatever better to the consumers. Steam did it right, so why can't they? Is the profit margin too small?

 

[danielravennest]

Because the other big media companies are dinosaurs from the last century. Game companies are relatively young, and understand computers (duh). In the last century, media was one way. You had a newspaper printing plant, a vinyl record factory, or a film studio. Content went from them to you, and their entire system and mindset is built around that. Computers and the Internet are two way devices. Even standalone computers have a way to spit out a disk or thumb drive or something, and anything online of course can upload as well as download.

Sites like Tom's get it. There are forums, they respond to feedback. I do design work, and I communicate with my customers directly. Big media trace back to the era of book authors, stage plays, and musical concerts, where they don't communicate with their customers, it's "here is my creation, I'm not changing it for you", it's just a totally different mindset.

Their problem is trying to act like it's a one way world, when it really is a two way world. It's like thinking the world is flat when it's really round, their basic assumption is wrong. When you make that basic a mistake, you will fail. It's just a question of how long it will take. SOPA and laws like that are an attempt to make everyone else think the world is flat.