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In article <1118801005.837944.304940@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
rst <senninha@ziplip.com> wrote:
>
>
>GMAN wrote:
>> In article <1118788898.303270.260150@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
>"rst" <senninha@ziplip.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >Fake ID wrote:
>> >> Best bang-for-the-buck *was* probably the LiteOn-5054 from costco.com

Correction: 5045

>And who ever heard of "LiteOn"??

I had, as makers of a wide array of electronic components.

>You get what you pay for.

Apparently "Panasonic" is worth $300 to you.

m
 
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Brandy  Alexandre wrote:

>On the flip side, blank DVDs can be found very cheap. Often on sale at
>Fry's for 30 cents each and under.

What kind of store is "Fry's"? I'm guessing it's a west coast chain?

..:. Craig
 
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in article 7lu0b1dd6jcpkeod32mv90pkk8812utq50@4ax.com, Craig Smith at
craig@smithcraft.org wrote on 6/15/05 12:00 PM:

> Brandy  Alexandre wrote:
>
>> On the flip side, blank DVDs can be found very cheap. Often on sale at
>> Fry's for 30 cents each and under.
>
> What kind of store is "Fry's"? I'm guessing it's a west coast chain?
>
> .:. Craig

Depending on where you are, it's a low end supermarket chain that smells of
spoiled food, or a gigantic Electronics chain. In my case, it's both. I
would assume she means the Electronics chain.
 
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ANIM8Rfsk <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote in rec.arts.tv:

> in article 7lu0b1dd6jcpkeod32mv90pkk8812utq50@4ax.com, Craig Smith
> at craig@smithcraft.org wrote on 6/15/05 12:00 PM:
>
>> Brandy  Alexandre wrote:
>>
>>> On the flip side, blank DVDs can be found very cheap. Often on
>>> sale at Fry's for 30 cents each and under.
>>
>> What kind of store is "Fry's"? I'm guessing it's a west coast
>> chain?
>>
>> .:. Craig
>
> Depending on where you are, it's a low end supermarket chain that
> smells of spoiled food, or a gigantic Electronics chain. In my
> case, it's both. I would assume she means the Electronics chain.
>
>

Yeah, I haven't found a DVR in the freezer section yet. 😉

They're web site for online ordering is Outpost.com

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In article <7lu0b1dd6jcpkeod32mv90pkk8812utq50@4ax.com>, Craig Smith <craig@smithcraft.org> wrote:
>Brandy  Alexandre wrote:
>
>>On the flip side, blank DVDs can be found very cheap. Often on sale at
>>Fry's for 30 cents each and under.
>
>What kind of store is "Fry's"? I'm guessing it's a west coast chain?
>
>..:. Craig
They also own www.outpost.com
 
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In article <1118801005.837944.304940@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "rst" <senninha@ziplip.com> wrote:
>
>
>GMAN wrote:
>> In article <1118788898.303270.260150@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, "rst"
> <senninha@ziplip.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >Fake ID wrote:
>> >> Best bang-for-the-buck *was* probably the LiteOn-5054 from costco.com
>> >> for $300. Now gone, it's still useful as a benchmark.
>> >>
>> >> A "media center" PC could also function as a DVR, for a mere $1.5-2K.
>> >>
>> >> m\
>> >
>> >
>> >Avoid no-name brands like this. And buying from warehouse stores.
>> >Nothing but trouble.... because you always get what you pay for.
>> >
>> >Spend $600 and get the Panasonic with the 40 gHDD AND the DVD burner.
>> >
>> >It's quality- because it is a rare find: a device still actually made
>> >in Japan- not China or Malaysia.
>> >
>> Actually that LiteOn 5045 model is a much more capable unit compared to that
>> panasonic model
>
>Nope. Panasonic records on DVD-RAM discs - this thing does not. And
>picture quality is superior.
>And who ever heard of "LiteOn"??
>

Who cares about Ram disks when it can do the real formats that were designed
for video in the first place

>You get what you pay for.
>
Liteon is the largest OEM manufacturer of CDROM mechanisms in taiwan. Many of
the large name brand DVD+-RW and CDRW/CD Rom computer drives are made by
them. If you have bought a Sony drive over the last few years it has been made
by LiteOn.

http://www.homecinemachoice.com/cgi-bin/displayreview.php?reviewid=5444

or more specifically

www.homecinemachoice.com_cgi-bin_outputpdf.php_file=HCC_113_068_HCC_113.pdf
 
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In alt.video.digital-tv Gordon Burditt <gordonb.aiar8@burditt.org> wrote:

| Cable has a serious reputation problem with me. They haven't
| convinced me yet that they can get the billing right. When you pay
| the bill, the "Balance Due" is supposed to go down by the amount
| of the payment. They are not supposed to add the amount of the
| payment to the monthly rate.

They're still doing that after 30 years?

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>| Cable has a serious reputation problem with me. They haven't
>| convinced me yet that they can get the billing right. When you pay
>| the bill, the "Balance Due" is supposed to go down by the amount
>| of the payment. They are not supposed to add the amount of the
>| payment to the monthly rate.
>
>They're still doing that after 30 years?

I gave up subscribing after a few months, but every time they send
someone around asking me to sign up again, I ask them about the
problem and they aren't willing to even attempt claiming they've
fixed the problem (or even claim they understand what the problem
is). Much less show me the source code.

Gordon L. Burditt
 
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Gordon Burditt wrote:

>>| Cable has a serious reputation problem with me. They haven't
>>| convinced me yet that they can get the billing right. When you pay
>>| the bill, the "Balance Due" is supposed to go down by the amount
>>| of the payment. They are not supposed to add the amount of the
>>| payment to the monthly rate.
>>
>>They're still doing that after 30 years?
>
>
> I gave up subscribing after a few months, but every time they send
> someone around asking me to sign up again, I ask them about the
> problem and they aren't willing to even attempt claiming they've
> fixed the problem (or even claim they understand what the problem
> is). Much less show me the source code.
>
> Gordon L. Burditt

The best movie ever on DVD... no, the best movie in the history of
movies is, 'Tunnel Vision' (1976).

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075357/

Directed by Neal Israel and Bradley R. Swirnoff. Written by Neal Israel
and Michael Mislove. Starring... uh, a bunch of people.
 
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In article <11centpdc42amf3@corp.supernews.com>,
gordonb.e7o2h@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) wrote:

> >| Cable has a serious reputation problem with me. They haven't
> >| convinced me yet that they can get the billing right. When you pay
> >| the bill, the "Balance Due" is supposed to go down by the amount
> >| of the payment. They are not supposed to add the amount of the
> >| payment to the monthly rate.
> >
> >They're still doing that after 30 years?
>
> I gave up subscribing after a few months, but every time they send
> someone around asking me to sign up again, I ask them about the
> problem and they aren't willing to even attempt claiming they've
> fixed the problem (or even claim they understand what the problem
> is). Much less show me the source code.

I've been a cable subscriber for over 20 years, and yet I've never
encountered this standard industry practice. If they'd been adding the
amount I paid to the balance due instead of subtracting it, my bill
would be around $24,000 now.

--
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
 
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in article N9Kxe.16339$mK5.1246838@news20.bellglobal.com, Katie Holmes at
katieholmes@yahoogroups.com wrote on 7/2/05 9:51 PM:

>
>
> Gordon Burditt wrote:
>
>>> | Cable has a serious reputation problem with me. They haven't
>>> | convinced me yet that they can get the billing right. When you pay
>>> | the bill, the "Balance Due" is supposed to go down by the amount
>>> | of the payment. They are not supposed to add the amount of the
>>> | payment to the monthly rate.
>>>
>>> They're still doing that after 30 years?
>>
>>
>> I gave up subscribing after a few months, but every time they send
>> someone around asking me to sign up again, I ask them about the
>> problem and they aren't willing to even attempt claiming they've
>> fixed the problem (or even claim they understand what the problem
>> is). Much less show me the source code.
>>
>> Gordon L. Burditt
>
> The best movie ever on DVD... no, the best movie in the history of
> movies is, 'Tunnel Vision' (1976).

I love that movie.

>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075357/
>
> Directed by Neal Israel and Bradley R. Swirnoff. Written by Neal Israel
> and Michael Mislove. Starring... uh, a bunch of people.
 
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In alt.video.digital-tv Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
| In article <11centpdc42amf3@corp.supernews.com>,
| gordonb.e7o2h@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) wrote:
|
|> >| Cable has a serious reputation problem with me. They haven't
|> >| convinced me yet that they can get the billing right. When you pay
|> >| the bill, the "Balance Due" is supposed to go down by the amount
|> >| of the payment. They are not supposed to add the amount of the
|> >| payment to the monthly rate.
|> >
|> >They're still doing that after 30 years?
|>
|> I gave up subscribing after a few months, but every time they send
|> someone around asking me to sign up again, I ask them about the
|> problem and they aren't willing to even attempt claiming they've
|> fixed the problem (or even claim they understand what the problem
|> is). Much less show me the source code.
|
| I've been a cable subscriber for over 20 years, and yet I've never
| encountered this standard industry practice. If they'd been adding the
| amount I paid to the balance due instead of subtracting it, my bill
| would be around $24,000 now.

Maybe what I will have to do is file for a patent on the various methods
of overbilling that cable companies use. I wonder if they will use the
"prior art" defense.

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in article da9gs6029ju@news1.newsguy.com, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net at
phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote on 7/3/05 1:12 PM:

> In alt.video.digital-tv Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> | In article <11centpdc42amf3@corp.supernews.com>,
> | gordonb.e7o2h@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) wrote:
> |
> |> >| Cable has a serious reputation problem with me. They haven't
> |> >| convinced me yet that they can get the billing right. When you pay
> |> >| the bill, the "Balance Due" is supposed to go down by the amount
> |> >| of the payment. They are not supposed to add the amount of the
> |> >| payment to the monthly rate.
> |> >
> |> >They're still doing that after 30 years?
> |>
> |> I gave up subscribing after a few months, but every time they send
> |> someone around asking me to sign up again, I ask them about the
> |> problem and they aren't willing to even attempt claiming they've
> |> fixed the problem (or even claim they understand what the problem
> |> is). Much less show me the source code.
> |
> | I've been a cable subscriber for over 20 years, and yet I've never
> | encountered this standard industry practice. If they'd been adding the
> | amount I paid to the balance due instead of subtracting it, my bill
> | would be around $24,000 now.
>
> Maybe what I will have to do is file for a patent on the various methods
> of overbilling that cable companies use. I wonder if they will use the
> "prior art" defense.

I was staying with a friend of mine on a holiday weekend in Los Angeles. He
wasn't certain if he'd paid his cable bill or not, so he tossed in a check
for double the amount, figuring either he was either now current or a month
ahead - one less thing to worry about over the holiday.

As it was, he was current, so he'd paid double, or a month ahead.

And at exactly 5pm on Friday.

They threw the switch and disconnected him.

For overpaying.
 
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>> >| Cable has a serious reputation problem with me. They haven't
>> >| convinced me yet that they can get the billing right. When you pay
>> >| the bill, the "Balance Due" is supposed to go down by the amount
>> >| of the payment. They are not supposed to add the amount of the
>> >| payment to the monthly rate.
>> >
>> >They're still doing that after 30 years?
>>
>> I gave up subscribing after a few months, but every time they send
>> someone around asking me to sign up again, I ask them about the
>> problem and they aren't willing to even attempt claiming they've
>> fixed the problem (or even claim they understand what the problem
>> is). Much less show me the source code.
>
>I've been a cable subscriber for over 20 years, and yet I've never
>encountered this standard industry practice. If they'd been adding the
>amount I paid to the balance due instead of subtracting it, my bill
>would be around $24,000 now.

No, they add the amount you paid to the *MONTHLY RATE*. If you
paid the bill each month (hint: there aren't that many dollars),
and the initial monthly fee 20 years ago was $10/month, you'd owe
about 3.5e+100 dollars, and your monthly rate would be higher than
that. On the other hand, if you never paid the bill, you'd owe
$2,400.00.

With that much money, the cable companies could buy up Earth and
turn it into one big reality show, with wacky politicians and
stupid wars and religious nuts to make the news entertaining.
Wait a minute ...

Gordon L. Burditt