DX7590 APERTURE SETTINGS

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Hello
When using the DX7590 in aperture priority mode, there are 3 or 4 settings
for leaving the shutter open for an extended period of time: 8, 11 or 16
seconds. Is there a way to extend that time, so that I leave it open for a
minute (for example) or longer? The real question is if Kodak is
considering making a change to the camera firmware. As you can imagine, 16
seconds is not a long time for picture exposure.

Thanks,
Norman

 

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NORMAN via PhotoKB.com wrote:

> Hello
> When using the DX7590 in aperture priority mode, there are 3 or 4 settings
> for leaving the shutter open for an extended period of time: 8, 11 or 16
> seconds. Is there a way to extend that time, so that I leave it open for a
> minute (for example) or longer? The real question is if Kodak is
> considering making a change to the camera firmware. As you can imagine, 16
> seconds is not a long time for picture exposure.

Take multiple shots and merge them digitally.


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Yes Paul. A bandaid to the problem, but it could work. However, when you
shoot a 16 second exposure, the camera takes about 7-8 seconds of
PROCESSSING.... to store the image, and therefore you miss those 7-8
seconds from the shot.

Kodak needs to come up with a solution.

N

 

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"NORMAN via PhotoKB.com" <forum@PhotoKB.com> wrote in
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> Yes Paul. A bandaid to the problem, but it could work. However,
> when you shoot a 16 second exposure, the camera takes about 7-8
> seconds of PROCESSSING.... to store the image, and therefore you
> miss those 7-8 seconds from the shot.

My DX6490 starts processing after 16 seconds. Processing takes an
additional 16 seconds.

 

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Greetingts Norman

The DX7590 will provide for a number of exposure settings like the one in
question, you can review all of you have noted, at:

http/www.kodak.com/go/dx7590

In addition to this, the open shutter has a setting for 16 seconds max. More
than enough for most low light or specialty situations. The general settings
for the use of this camera, or any other, is more than enough to capture
most scenes. Kodak has no plans to exted the firmware to go beyond the 16
second exposure setting. You can change the aperture as long as you are not
at its maximum. A correct exposure at 128 seconds and an aperture of F/2.8
is similar to an exposure of 16 seconds at F/8 (not including reciprocity).
Also, some of the Kodak cameras, i.e. the DX7440 have long exposure times of
64 seconds.

If you want to capture images at other extremes it might be best to consider
film. In any event, if you have a specific need or application, please share
it and maybe we can adjust for it.

Talk to you soon, Norman,

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company

"NORMAN via PhotoKB.com" <forum@nospam.PhotoKB.com> wrote in message
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> Hello
> When using the DX7590 in aperture priority mode, there are 3 or 4 settings
> for leaving the shutter open for an extended period of time: 8, 11 or 16
> seconds. Is there a way to extend that time, so that I leave it open for a
> minute (for example) or longer? The real question is if Kodak is
> considering making a change to the camera firmware. As you can imagine, 16
> seconds is not a long time for picture exposure.
>
> Thanks,
> Norman

 

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Hey Rom
Thanks for your reply. I was trying to capture a departing plane from an
island, and to capture the streak in the sky. Obviously, it stopped after
the 16 seconds, and I was left with a very partial streak. I agree with you
that this is a special circumstance, and it doesn't fall under the typical
photography that most of us make. However, it would simply be nice to be
able to leave the shutter open for a longer period of time. Why do you say
that Kodak does not plan to consider going beyond the 16 seconds exposure
with such certainty? Are they willing to consider it? Or is it a limitation
of the sensor or camera processor?

Thanks again,
Norman

Ronald Baird wrote:
>Greetingts Norman
>
>The DX7590 will provide for a number of exposure settings like the one in
>question, you can review all of you have noted, at:
>
>http/www.kodak.com/go/dx7590
>
>In addition to this, the open shutter has a setting for 16 seconds max. More
>than enough for most low light or specialty situations. The general settings
>for the use of this camera, or any other, is more than enough to capture
>most scenes. Kodak has no plans to exted the firmware to go beyond the 16
>second exposure setting. You can change the aperture as long as you are not
>at its maximum. A correct exposure at 128 seconds and an aperture of F/2.8
>is similar to an exposure of 16 seconds at F/8 (not including reciprocity).
>Also, some of the Kodak cameras, i.e. the DX7440 have long exposure times of
>64 seconds.
>
>If you want to capture images at other extremes it might be best to consider
>film. In any event, if you have a specific need or application, please share
>it and maybe we can adjust for it.
>
>Talk to you soon, Norman,
>
>Ron Baird
>Eastman Kodak Company
>
>> Hello
>> When using the DX7590 in aperture priority mode, there are 3 or 4 settings
>[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>> Thanks,
>> Norman
>

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NORMAN via PhotoKB.com wrote:
> Hey Rom
> Thanks for your reply. I was trying to capture a departing plane from an
> island, and to capture the streak in the sky. Obviously, it stopped after
> the 16 seconds, and I was left with a very partial streak. I agree with you
> that this is a special circumstance, and it doesn't fall under the typical
> photography that most of us make. However, it would simply be nice to be
> able to leave the shutter open for a longer period of time. Why do you say
> that Kodak does not plan to consider going beyond the 16 seconds exposure
> with such certainty? Are they willing to consider it? Or is it a limitation
> of the sensor or camera processor?
>
> Thanks again,
> Norman
>
> Ronald Baird wrote:
>
>>Greetingts Norman
>>
>>The DX7590 will provide for a number of exposure settings like the one in
>>question, you can review all of you have noted, at:
>>
>>http/www.kodak.com/go/dx7590
>>
>>In addition to this, the open shutter has a setting for 16 seconds max. More
>>than enough for most low light or specialty situations. The general settings
>>for the use of this camera, or any other, is more than enough to capture
>>most scenes. Kodak has no plans to exted the firmware to go beyond the 16
>>second exposure setting. You can change the aperture as long as you are not
>>at its maximum. A correct exposure at 128 seconds and an aperture of F/2.8
>>is similar to an exposure of 16 seconds at F/8 (not including reciprocity).
>>Also, some of the Kodak cameras, i.e. the DX7440 have long exposure times of
>>64 seconds.
>>
>>If you want to capture images at other extremes it might be best to consider
>>film. In any event, if you have a specific need or application, please share
>>it and maybe we can adjust for it.
>>
>>Talk to you soon, Norman,
>>
>>Ron Baird
>>Eastman Kodak Company
>>
>>
>>>Hello
>>>When using the DX7590 in aperture priority mode, there are 3 or 4 settings
>>
>>[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Norman
>>
>
From experience, Kodak fixes problems, they don't add features. Want
more features, lay down your money.


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Probably a limitation of the sensor where it just gets banding &
excessive noise longer than that.

NORMAN via PhotoKB.com wrote:

> Hey Rom
> Thanks for your reply. I was trying to capture a departing plane from an
> island, and to capture the streak in the sky. Obviously, it stopped after
> the 16 seconds, and I was left with a very partial streak. I agree with you
> that this is a special circumstance, and it doesn't fall under the typical
> photography that most of us make. However, it would simply be nice to be
> able to leave the shutter open for a longer period of time. Why do you say
> that Kodak does not plan to consider going beyond the 16 seconds exposure
> with such certainty? Are they willing to consider it? Or is it a limitation
> of the sensor or camera processor?
>
> Thanks again,
> Norman
>
> Ronald Baird wrote:
>
>>Greetingts Norman
>>
>>The DX7590 will provide for a number of exposure settings like the one in
>>question, you can review all of you have noted, at:
>>
>>http/www.kodak.com/go/dx7590
>>
>>In addition to this, the open shutter has a setting for 16 seconds max. More
>>than enough for most low light or specialty situations. The general settings
>>for the use of this camera, or any other, is more than enough to capture
>>most scenes. Kodak has no plans to exted the firmware to go beyond the 16
>>second exposure setting. You can change the aperture as long as you are not
>>at its maximum. A correct exposure at 128 seconds and an aperture of F/2.8
>>is similar to an exposure of 16 seconds at F/8 (not including reciprocity).
>>Also, some of the Kodak cameras, i.e. the DX7440 have long exposure times of
>>64 seconds.
>>
>>If you want to capture images at other extremes it might be best to consider
>>film. In any event, if you have a specific need or application, please share
>>it and maybe we can adjust for it.
>>
>>Talk to you soon, Norman,
>>
>>Ron Baird
>>Eastman Kodak Company
>>
>>
>>>Hello
>>>When using the DX7590 in aperture priority mode, there are 3 or 4 settings
>>
>>[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Norman
>>
>

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Greetings Norman,

I appreciate your use, Norman, actually I was relating to the firmware of
that model. My reference was that Kodak would not likely be writing firmware
adjustments (which is time consuming and expensive) to add to that
particular feature. Most firmware changes come from a specific need or
issue. The extension of the long exposure time is not on the list of changes
and so my reference. That is not to say that it is not a valued feature as
it obviously is based on other cameras and such. Also, many like to take
pictures in low light etc. I was simply referencing the facts about that
camera.

Yes, our team would consider it, but with only a certain amount of money to
spend on a lot of other valued features, I have not seen it on the list.

I hope the suggestions noted will help?>

Talk to you soon, Norman,

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company




> Hey Rom
> Thanks for your reply. I was trying to capture a departing plane from an
> island, and to capture the streak in the sky. Obviously, it stopped after
> the 16 seconds, and I was left with a very partial streak. I agree with
you
> that this is a special circumstance, and it doesn't fall under the typical
> photography that most of us make. However, it would simply be nice to be
> able to leave the shutter open for a longer period of time. Why do you say
> that Kodak does not plan to consider going beyond the 16 seconds exposure
> with such certainty? Are they willing to consider it? Or is it a
limitation
> of the sensor or camera processor?
>
> Thanks again,
> Norman
>
> Ronald Baird wrote:
> >Greetingts Norman
> >
> >The DX7590 will provide for a number of exposure settings like the one in
> >question, you can review all of you have noted, at:
> >
> >http/www.kodak.com/go/dx7590
> >