Facebook Wants to End Anonymity on Internet

[f-14]

i wonder how tucker max would argue this one.
i mean if he had used real names in all his online stories.... well that would be totally hillarious for the rest of us that aren't those people he named.
facebook already steals your address book and the entire contents of your contacts from your smart phones and post them up on facebook for every one to see.
they obviously feel they are privy to such information because you used your smart phone to view their web pages.
i wish every website felt they were privy to my personal information like that.
i can just imagine what it'd be like to have our credit cards and bank accounts posted all over the internet for every one to see.
it would not surprise me if facebook was already doing this just because people use their smart phones to use facebook and pay bills with their smartphone.
i can't wait until facebook starts posting up everyones NFC channel for their smartphones all over the web.

 

[junixophobia]

[citation][nom]hungrybear[/nom]That's such a narrow-minded view. What about people in totalitarian countries that write and blog and speak out against the government. Or people that participate in peer groups such as AA or LGBT groups that might not be ready to attach their names to their online profiles. Sometimes anonymity is a matter of protecting or preserving the ability of free speech.[/citation]

Zuckerberg actually removed specific viewing or group viewing in facebook all because he has a twisted idea that you should get all the news feed from everybody. such narrow minded.

I am glad we will have another choice like google+

 

[Fusion777]

It's a moot point. Websites are gonna track the heck out of you regardless.

 

[f-14]

With that unconfirmed scenario in mind,

omfg how stupid is the staff at toms?
remember the city governments subscribing to google earth to check peoples yards for illegal pools and additions to their property?
how about the article of police and the FBI using facebook to track down wanted criminals?
your own damn website confirmed this already. seriously messed up man, nvm sorry to bother you guys, go back to smoking your weed all day and posting it on facebook, i don't give a crap if your busted for your own stupidity.
wtf do you think the government is going to do, A) get a warrant or B) buy into a service that already OWNS a hoard of information about individuals they might be interested in in a PERFECTLY LEGAL business arrangement. getting a warrant for each person every single time cost more money and time then a lump sum annual payment to a perfectly legal and legitimate business deal.

 

[MrBig55]

"The use of real names online could help curb bullying and harassment on the web," she told the audience. "I think anonymity on the Internet has to go away. People behave a lot better when they have their real names down. I think people hide behind anonymity and they feel like they can say whatever they want behind closed doors."

pff I'll never put my real name anywhere on the net. It's too easy to give personnal info to hackers and robbers. They can bend their knees and put their face in my slip I'll never put my real name on the net.

 

[zak_mckraken]

They do raise a point though. People can do things under the cover of anonymity that they wouldn't do otherwise. Is it a good thing or a bad thing? I'm not really sure myself. While we all think about it, help yourself to this comic.
[img=http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/215499488_8pSZr-L-2.jpg][/img]

 

[Raidur]

FACEBOOK should be eradicated.

 

[wildkitten]

[citation][nom]zak_mckraken[/nom]They do raise a point though. People can do things under the cover of anonymity that they wouldn't do otherwise. Is it a good thing or a bad thing? I'm not really sure myself. While we all think about it, help yourself to this comic.[img=http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/215499488_8pSZr-L-2.jpg][/img][/citation]
Whenever someone makes this argument, all of you fail to mention HOW showing real names would modify behavior. Are you advocating real life consequences for some silly post a forum troll makes online? Because that is the only way it could possibly work. And what consequences should someone face? Should they be fired from their job for posting a view in a political forum that their boss would disagree with? Perhaps expelled from school for posting too much in a gaming forum? Please explain.

Also, explain how, if a lack of anonymity forces good behavior, why the worse case of cyberbullying occurs when the victim and the attackers already know each other.

Honestly, you people who keep advocating this need more then regurtitate the tagline "They wouldn't do this is we knew who they were" and go into specific of WHY people wouldn't do it and explain why the worse cases of bullying occur now when the victim is known to the attacker.

 

[therabiddeer]

Interesting. If you want to discuss the effects of anonymity, I think I would refer you to south korean internet. In order to do anything online in S. Korea, you need to register with your korean SS#. This means that if you say anything online in the form of slander, bullying, or terrorism, you can be turned in to the police. However, this system has essentially failed and the result is that south korea announced plans to abandon this entire idea.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/08/what-south-korea-can-teach-us-about-online-anonymity.ars

 

[damian86]

Lol, I can smell Annonymous in facebook..

 

[azconnie]

Facebook want's to party like it's 1984!

Wait... that's bad...

 

[11796pcs]

Wow, what a frickin' idiot. I don't want to be defined by something I did as a child when I'm like 30 just because of Facebook. But seriously, no one saw this coming?

 

[Travis Beane]

[citation][nom]Randi Zuckerberg[/nom]People behave a lot better when they have their real names down.[/citation]
It appears we have never met Ms. Zuckerberg.
Fuck you.

Sincerly,
Travis Beane.

 

[del35]

Zuckenberg seems to think that she is entitled to decide for people whether they should or not be anonymous on line. That decision is for the individual to make. In a political environment tending towards fascism, imagine every comment ever made being traceable.

 

[eiskrystal]

And you guys who use facebook are idiots for putting it there.

Don't forget that your information can end up there because of friends talking about you, including you in pics etc...

You're the idiot for thinking you're safe....you're never safe. Mwhahahah.

 

[zak_mckraken]

@wildkitten: First of all, I didn't say I had an opinion on the matter. I was merely pondering the implications.

But let's assume I was to side with the "bad guys". The consequences for your actions online should be the same for actions done in real life. Why would you get fired for writing a political article? I don't know where you live, but in Canada we have laws protecting free speech. I'm not talking about the first amendment in the U.S. that trolls are always citing when they get bashed for saying hurtful things, I'm talking about the right to have a perfectly reasonable opinion and be able to express it without unfair consequences.

As for cases of cyberbullying, we can only judge from the cases we heard about. Not every case makes the headlines you know. I would indeed assume the damage is worse when you do know the person who's bullying you, but then again receiving anonymous death threats must be quite scary too.

I would go towards the creation of an online identity which would be use for government files, online banking, shopping, credit, etc. Sites and forums could offer the use of the said identity for practical purposes, kinda like a gmail account, but it should be totally optional. If a forum forces you to use your online identity in order to post, then just go away.

 

[billiardicus]

Mark is obviously a bright guy. He revolutionized social media. Question: How can he be so smart while his sister is a complete ditzy airhead? I bet his mom has been cheating with pool guy.

Her suggestion is possibly the single dumbest thing I've ever heard anyone say.

 

[jdwii]

This is a bad idea, and a good one. But its not always going to solve the issues. maybe they should do a better job and when people report issues they should act on it.

 

[ojas]

[citation][nom]blueeyesm[/nom]More likely from the U.K. Don't base slang on race.-Rusty Shackleford[/citation]

Dude i'm Indian 😛

 

[someoneelse]

How can Randi Zucerberg be so blind to the facts.

1) Most cyberbullying happens when people know each others real names in real life
2) People and their property are still attacked for holding particular views. ( this is in the western democracies)
3) On the internet with anonimity ideas are just ideas. The ideas can be accepted or rejected for their worth. When you attatch real names to these ideas the person can not only be rejected but can also be physically & verbally attacked for holding views others strongly oppose. I mean who would honestly post their real name against critisism of animal rights, pro life, terror groups ( ira,udf, jihaddi) or any anti-muslim sentiments. They all have a record of attacking their enemies when they can find them.

The tragic thing is this is all in the public domain. It's on the news and everyone knows this. So why is Randi Zuckerberg so blind to the obvious? Is she the stupid marketing executive of a highly successful well marketed company or does she want more accurate information to sell. To me the answer seems very obvious.

BUT if she is so clear on there being no need for anonimity why doesn't she publish a list of all the companies that have bought information from facebook whilst explaining exactly what these companies know about the facebook users and their profiles and how these companies intend on using it. ... really Randi for this list we're listening....anytime