FCC: A Real Problem With Apple's App Store

[AdamB5000]

"CNN Money reported last week that the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has now gotten involved"

Bleh. Never a good thing. I don't care who you are. Eff the FCC.

 

[nachowarrior]

bull shit at&t "doesn't have any say in apples decisions" It showed up in an article last week where apple pointed the finger at AT&T, hahaha.
One way or another I hope this leads to the FCC saying "no exclusive hardware/carrier products". It's retarded that they even have hardware driven carrier sales, it skews the market and keeps companies that fail to deliver quality service alive and kicking.

 

[nachowarrior]

[citation][nom]elbert[/nom]LOL trying to force a phone maker to add an app for free wifi phone calls. The FCC has to be the dumbest agency ever. Why doesn't the FCC do their job?These male enhancement, alcohol, and KY gel commercials should be off the air between 8am to 10pm. I have the right to not be embarrassed in my own home. Its one thing to watch a show that you have an ideal of what to expect. A commercial tho pops up with a man and women taking about pleasuring each other while my child is watching. The FCC is boarding on incompetent and the TV channels liable.Allowing the advertising of alcohol to my under age child is criminal. Should the FCC be investigated? The FCC has become the biggest waste of tax payers money this decade.[/citation]

you are a waste of the web server your text takes up. You had to buy equipment to get this signal into your home. therefore YOU PUT IT THERE no matter what the signal is. Moron. You don't NEED a TV you don't NEED a radio. you don't need shit, if you don't like the f-ing commercials go BUY a dvr that skips commercials. idget. quit bitching to other people about your ignorance.

 

[p05esto]

No way, I agree with ELBERT. Those stupid commercials should be OUTLAWED. They are embarrassing around children and completely unacceptable. I pay TAXES for the FCC to make my TV watching enjoyable. Don't give me crap about free speech and "don't watch", that's very stupid reasoning.

I want the FCC to ban smoking, drinking, sex and female maxipad commercials for example. Ideally they'd ban political commercials as well. But the main point is regarding children, I refuse to explain to my 8yr old what male enhancement is for when he says "hey dad you should get some of that male enhancement, sounds like good stuff." My god.

 

[bigalfantasy2004]

The FCC is one government agency that actually does something. I was astonished that they did something when I was having problems porting my phone number to a new phone service. They got my number ported and even got my old provider to credit back the phone bills I got while waiting. They helped my dad fix his cell phone issues when someone illegally stole his number and reassigned to a new phone.

So I believe there may be some changes made in this approval process or there will be some hefty fines. The FCC has the power to stop AT&T and Apple from selling phones to new customers until it's resolved.

 

[chaohsiangchen]

In other news, Apple Inc. tried to silence owners over self-combustible iPods:
http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Unsuccesfully+Tries+to+Silence+Owner+of+Fiery+iPod/article15868.htm

 

[San Pedro]

[citation][nom]p05esto[/nom]No way, I agree with ELBERT. Those stupid commercials should be OUTLAWED. They are embarrassing around children and completely unacceptable. I pay TAXES for the FCC to make my TV watching enjoyable. Don't give me crap about free speech and "don't watch", that's very stupid reasoning.I want the FCC to ban smoking, drinking, sex and female maxipad commercials for example. Ideally they'd ban political commercials as well. But the main point is regarding children, I refuse to explain to my 8yr old what male enhancement is for when he says "hey dad you should get some of that male enhancement, sounds like good stuff." My god.[/citation]

It's not the FCC's job to make your TV watching experience enjoyable. According to your logic the FCC should also make sure that only shows that are enjoyable to you should be let on TV.

Maxipad commercials should be banned? ? ? I'm sorry everyone women after puberty has a period, unless they're pregnant. That's a very large portion of the population who uses such products.

BTW, all those uncomfortable commercials are paying for the shows you're watching.

 

[elbert]

[citation][nom]nachowarrior[/nom]you are a waste of the web server your text takes up. You had to buy equipment to get this signal into your home. therefore YOU PUT IT THERE no matter what the signal is. Moron. You don't NEED a TV you don't NEED a radio. you don't need shit, if you don't like the f-ing commercials go BUY a dvr that skips commercials. idget. quit bitching to other people about your ignorance.[/citation]
Right back at you as you don't need an iphone nor a telephone. You buy the stuff that brings in apple so go away moron. The FCC isn't going to help you. I don't think any agency has that much funding to help you.
BTW there is no DVR on earth that skips commercials. You have to push skip and for that to occur you have to keep the remote in your hands at all times. Moron you don't buy the equipment you lease it as you have to return it or pay the bill. Your ignorance as to how these things work is border line childish.

 

[elbert]

[citation][nom]nachowarrior[/nom]bull shit at&t "doesn't have any say in apples decisions" It showed up in an article last week where apple pointed the finger at AT&T, hahaha.One way or another I hope this leads to the FCC saying "no exclusive hardware/carrier products". It's retarded that they even have hardware driven carrier sales, it skews the market and keeps companies that fail to deliver quality service alive and kicking.[/citation]
Knowing the FCC this will end up with no skype. The skews in the market is like TV using these bad commercials to keep failed TV channels on the air. The FCC doesn't force tv companys to provide a la carte channel choices so we can kick these channels to the side.

 

[danr22]

Elbert and P05esto its parents like you who disgust me. When did it become the governments job to parent your children and why cant you take some responsibility as 1) controlling what your children watch and 2) educating them in a responsible way. Allow me to elaborate on these points.
1) You as the parent have the abilities to control what your children watch. Most major providers offer some kind of parental controls to block out shows with a certain rating or certain channels all-together. If your children arent mature enough to see commercials about alcohol, or products of a sexual nature dont let them watch channels or shows that advertise this. I have never seen an alcohol, male enhancement, or lube commercial on Nickolodean, Cartoon Network, Disney Channel or any other kids programming channel. Your move on this one. The only exception to this rule is sports which brings us to point 2.
2) This is where your job as a parent is to educate your children. If they see an alcohol commercial and ask what it is explain it is a drink that adults enjoy. If you see something you dont feel comfortable explaining something tell them it is something that they will understand when they are older but that it is inappropriate to talk about at this age. Oh and for the person with the maxi-pad commercials, how old are you? Its a natural part of a womens' biology and if you want to ban those you should also ban all diabetes, heart disease, and basically all medicine commercials as the maxi-pad or other feminine products are just a form of treatment to a natural problem.
Anyways thats the end of my rant.

That said I do think that apple should have some say as to what they do and do not make available in their own app store. They are responsible for the content and they, not the developers usually face the most complaints when something does go wrong. Still I think a better solution would be to officialy offer a competing app store that can offer things apple wont

 

[elbert]

[citation][nom]danr22[/nom]Elbert and P05esto its parents like you who disgust me. When did it become the governments job to parent your children and why cant you take some responsibility as 1) controlling what your children watch and 2) educating them in a responsible way. Allow me to elaborate on these points. 1) You as the parent have the abilities to control what your children watch. Most major providers offer some kind of parental controls to block out shows with a certain rating or certain channels all-together. If your children arent mature enough to see commercials about alcohol, or products of a sexual nature dont let them watch channels or shows that advertise this. I have never seen an alcohol, male enhancement, or lube commercial on Nickolodean, Cartoon Network, Disney Channel or any other kids programming channel. Your move on this one. The only exception to this rule is sports which brings us to point 2.2) This is where your job as a parent is to educate your children. If they see an alcohol commercial and ask what it is explain it is a drink that adults enjoy. If you see something you dont feel comfortable explaining something tell them it is something that they will understand when they are older but that it is inappropriate to talk about at this age. Oh and for the person with the maxi-pad commercials, how old are you? Its a natural part of a womens' biology and if you want to ban those you should also ban all diabetes, heart disease, and basically all medicine commercials as the maxi-pad or other feminine products are just a form of treatment to a natural problem.Anyways thats the end of my rant.That said I do think that apple should have some say as to what they do and do not make available in their own app store. They are responsible for the content and they, not the developers usually face the most complaints when something does go wrong. Still I think a better solution would be to officialy offer a competing app store that can offer things apple wont[/citation]
danr22 its children or young adults like you who have no business telling parents how to raise anything. I all but know you have no children or just starting. If you are smart enough to lock a channel your child already knows how to unlock it and block you out.

Parenting became the governments job once they seen the need to charge us tax for such wastes as the FCC. The creation of public school systems was another step government made making it part their responsible.

Creating a bidding system for digital TV which makes it impossible to not purchase said channels. Disney is one channel I don't want my child to watch. Yes I have seen captain morgan's ads on these channels. The phones are on a bidding system as well which is part of reason we are limited on choice and have high prices.

I as a parent know its impossible to keep my child from changing the channel. I as a parent know my child can search on the net how to reset any TV box to get around blocks.

Educating our children on alcohol, sex, and ect... has already occurred by placing them in the public school system. Our children already know these things before 5th grade. My son sees an alcohol commercial he just smiles and cracks a joke. He sees these other commercials and blushes. Many channels have shows geared toward teens that have these commercials.

I agree with your last statement but the FCC isn't going to help. The FCC as stated is a joke and cause more problems than they fix.

 

[danr22]

Elbert your use of taxes as an excuse to exempt you from parental responsibilities is exactly the problem demonstrated by so many parents these days. Yes you pay taxes which does make the government partially responsible for the raising of your children but you seem to neglect the fact that you still have the final say and all of these choices are just that, choices you make. If you dont think the FCC is doing a good enough job really evaluate the commercial content and the content of the shows they are being advertised on. If you happen to see a Captain Morgan commercial during Spongebob then by all means you have a valid complaint as there is simply no way that is acceptable as the target audience is anywhere from 5-12. If however you see one during this "teen" targeted programming then look at the programs themselves. Many of these teen targeted programs have references to what you may consider undesirable things. Take Fresh Prince of BelAire for example. This is a show targeted at teens and yet it has alcohol as well as sexual references. If you dont want your kids seeing commercials like this then simply dont allow them to watch this TV. Furthermore TV itself is an option. I know many successful people who simply choose not to have a TV in the house or simply have a TV only for movies and their kids have turned out fine. Its a choice you make.
Your second example of public education leads me to my main point. You state that the public school you pay for corrupts your kids. Once again public school is a choice and if you really want to shelter your kids you have the option to home school your kids. Of course then you simply are protecting them from the real world but hey that works for some people. Coming back to my main point though the final authority rests with you. You make the choices as to what to expose your kids to. You can choose to set limits and enforce consequences with your kids and no one can take that power away from you. You also have the option to talk to your kids about these things and teach them rather than let them experiment for themselves. Sure it may be uncomfortable for both of you but numerous studies have shown that proactive parenting is the most effective.
As for the FCC maybe they could use some reform but they do serve a valuable purpose and are quite effective, perhaps not efficient, but effective. If we did not have the FCC instead of the occasional alcohol commercial we could hypothetically have an uncensored Girls Gone Wild commercial during Barney and I doubt you would appreciate that. These companies arent out to get or corrupt your kids. We live in a capitalist society and companies survive by selling a product and to sell they must market. The companies market their products where they feel they have the best possible market or audience and if your kids are seeing commercials you dont want them to see look at the programming they are watching because the ad reflects the programs audience. In conclusion the final decision rests with you and while the FCC isnt perfect it is better than nothing

 

[elbert]

[citation][nom]danr22[/nom]Elbert your use of taxes as an excuse to exempt you from parental responsibilities is exactly the problem demonstrated by so many parents these days. Yes you pay taxes which does make the government partially responsible for the raising of your children but you seem to neglect the fact that you still have the final say and all of these choices are just that, choices you make. If you dont think the FCC is doing a good enough job really evaluate the commercial content and the content of the shows they are being advertised on. If you happen to see a Captain Morgan commercial during Spongebob then by all means you have a valid complaint as there is simply no way that is acceptable as the target audience is anywhere from 5-12. If however you see one during this "teen" targeted programming then look at the programs themselves. Many of these teen targeted programs have references to what you may consider undesirable things. Take Fresh Prince of BelAire for example. This is a show targeted at teens and yet it has alcohol as well as sexual references. If you dont want your kids seeing commercials like this then simply dont allow them to watch this TV. Furthermore TV itself is an option. I know many successful people who simply choose not to have a TV in the house or simply have a TV only for movies and their kids have turned out fine. Its a choice you make.Your second example of public education leads me to my main point. You state that the public school you pay for corrupts your kids. Once again public school is a choice and if you really want to shelter your kids you have the option to home school your kids. Of course then you simply are protecting them from the real world but hey that works for some people. Coming back to my main point though the final authority rests with you. You make the choices as to what to expose your kids to. You can choose to set limits and enforce consequences with your kids and no one can take that power away from you. You also have the option to talk to your kids about these things and teach them rather than let them experiment for themselves. Sure it may be uncomfortable for both of you but numerous studies have shown that proactive parenting is the most effective. As for the FCC maybe they could use some reform but they do serve a valuable purpose and are quite effective, perhaps not efficient, but effective. If we did not have the FCC instead of the occasional alcohol commercial we could hypothetically have an uncensored Girls Gone Wild commercial during Barney and I doubt you would appreciate that. These companies arent out to get or corrupt your kids. We live in a capitalist society and companies survive by selling a product and to sell they must market. The companies market their products where they feel they have the best possible market or audience and if your kids are seeing commercials you dont want them to see look at the programming they are watching because the ad reflects the programs audience. In conclusion the final decision rests with you and while the FCC isnt perfect it is better than nothing[/citation]
My use of taxes isn't to exempt me but is the reason i'm here speaking out on the matter. Now your suggest of home schooling would mean I have to quit my job. Would no money make me a good parent? What study's can you find on poor family's?

I like how you think it all about spongebob which makes me think you have a baby at best and kind of naive to what coming your way. My son watch's Icarly on nick which most like is the time your child is asleep. My son has a PC thanks to my job and a good roof over his head.

Now with no FCC we would be free to sue TV stations. With no government involvement in television we could still choose not to go digital. With the FCC we had a Janet Jackson gone wild. To me seeing a little skin isn't a big deal and just human nature. Trying to sale my son pills and alcohol is a big deal. We have company pushing commercials for pill and law office commercials to sue for their side affects. I don't want pills or alcohol glamorized to my son.

No the commercials doesn't reflect the shows. The commercials reflect only who's willing to pay the most during peak viewing times. Up till this decade the FCC did a good job keep such ads off the air between 8am to 10pm. Any more its like a free for all who can put up the ads. Yes I have seen the censored Girls Gone Wild commercial and until this decade they would have only been on after 10pm.

I think the FCC has been bought and payed for by big TV. I guess now they are look for money from the big phone makers.

 

[d_kuhn]

If you don't like the total crap that passes for TV programming these days (and don't want your kids polluted by it)... you're not alone.

My house has been TV free for about 7 years - ever since our (at the time) 7 year old was watching a show on Nickelodeon and one of its commercials (for some retarded teen Nick show) would have put Desperate Housewives to shame.

If there's a program we're interested in watching, we get it on Netflix or watch it online... gives us much better control over content, without the wildcard of commercials to deal with.

 

[greenman1]

Look guys, it seems pretty obvious to me that many of you would like to see apple open up the iphone to any apps and extensions users care to install. If I were running apple I would never do this. The reason is
simple, a big factor in the success of the iphone (and many other apple products for that matter)
the consistent user experience .

If they weren't superior to many other products
you would not even be interested in using them. If apple is forced to "junk up" the iphone by allowing
anything to run on them, then the user should sign a waiver exempting them from user support.

Lets not forget if you want a truly open "experience" you can always purchase products from other makers. Oh wait, they suck, so I guess I will bag on apple to change the formula that has worked for them!

Also: there is nothing wrong with protecting your revenue base (and your partners) after investing millions into product and channel development.

 

[elbert]

[citation][nom]D_Kuhn[/nom]If you don't like the total crap that passes for TV programming these days (and don't want your kids polluted by it)... you're not alone. My house has been TV free for about 7 years - ever since our (at the time) 7 year old was watching a show on Nickelodeon and one of its commercials (for some retarded teen Nick show) would have put Desperate Housewives to shame.If there's a program we're interested in watching, we get it on Netflix or watch it online... gives us much better control over content, without the wildcard of commercials to deal with.[/citation]
Ill be checking on Netflix. If the price is reasonable I will drop TV like a hot rock. Thx this is truly some good advice.

 

[chripuck]

[citation][nom]elbert[/nom]Ill be checking on Netflix. If the price is reasonable I will drop TV like a hot rock. Thx this is truly some good advice.[/citation]

Wow you people are bizarre. Put a lock on the station. It requires a passcode and if you're stupid enough to choose a passcode that your child could guess then you're probably too stupid to raise a child.

The majority of what you're complaining about is moot. Male enhancement only shows up on channels like Spike and alcohol and maxi pads are a fact of life. I've never once seen an Enzyte commercial on CBS or NBC so drop cable/satellite and just do broadcast if you can't figure out how to lock a channel.

How old are your kids anyways that they can figure out how to hack a remote with your ultra secure passcode? If they're old enough to do that then they've probably already tried drinking and are using maxi pads.

 

[chripuck]

[citation][nom]elbert[/nom]The same goes for the consistency of pro alcohol but no positive smoking commercials. The FCC already has its hands full and making a big mess for TV viewers.[/citation]
Smoking kills skippy, alcohol does not at least not to the level of emphezyma/lung cancer. I grew up with religous parents and there was plenty of alcohol commercials on back then. They saw it and they told me about the dangers of alcohol when I asked. I still remember hearing my first cuss word in a movie when I was 9. Dad sat me down afterwards and explained to me why I shouldn't use that language.

Shielding your children only makes them socially handicapped. I should know, my wife was extremely shielded growing up and had a really hard time her first few years of college.

 

[falconqc]

I'm too lazy to read your comments. I just hope the FCC rips Apple a new iHole.

 

[elbert]

[citation][nom]chripuck[/nom]Wow you people are bizarre. Put a lock on the station. It requires a passcode and if you're stupid enough to choose a passcode that your child could guess then you're probably too stupid to raise a child.The majority of what you're complaining about is moot. Male enhancement only shows up on channels like Spike and alcohol and maxi pads are a fact of life. I've never once seen an Enzyte commercial on CBS or NBC so drop cable/satellite and just do broadcast if you can't figure out how to lock a channel.How old are your kids anyways that they can figure out how to hack a remote with your ultra secure passcode? If they're old enough to do that then they've probably already tried drinking and are using maxi pads.[/citation]
LOL guessing isn't the problem. All electrics devices have ways to totally drop any code you enter. Call up the tv company and they tell you to push the little red button on the back or push a pin the the reset hole and hold for 10 seconds.