First Quad Core Laptop Now Available!!!

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Hypersonic Aviator = Clevo D901C = Eurocom D901C = Sager NP something (can't remember) = K|N Odachi = XoticPC = discountlaptops.com = etc. .

No one needs to catch on since they are all the same thing.

Yeah, but Eurocom is usually the first to release the Chassis with the new hardware. We'll sometimes see pre-release stuff from others, but I usually check Eurocom to see what actually shipping.

 

[lostandwandering]

Yeah I know I was just making a point and that was more in response to Luscious than it was to you, so please don't think I got angry at you. I agree that Eurocom does often get the stuff first, I was just saying that Luscious' comment about others needing to catch up was somewhat moot since they are all the same.

It's an ugly looking thing though isn't it?

 

[Luscious]

Yeah I know I was just making a point and that was more in response to Luscious than it was to you, so please don't think I got angry at you. I agree that Eurocom does often get the stuff first, I was just saying that Luscious' comment about others needing to catch up was somewhat moot since they are all the same.

They are, pretty much, all the same, yes, I'm just anticipating the other vendors will offer the quad cores as well.

 

[lostandwandering]

I think a quad core in a laptop would be an awesome thing. I feel that there are a lot of issues that need to be solved first though. If any vendor can get a quad core laptop to be truly stable, then you have my full interest. From what I have heard, they aren't all that stable and that particular laptop has something like an 80% failure rate. It's rather ridiculous. I really do hope they get it to work. I think the results would be truly impressive.

 

[lostandwandering]

Stupid double post.

 

[Luscious]

I think a quad core in a laptop would be an awesome thing. I feel that there are a lot of issues that need to be solved first though. If any vendor can get a quad core laptop to be truly stable, then you have my full interest. From what I have heard, they aren't all that stable and that particular laptop has something like an 80% failure rate. It's rather ridiculous. I really do hope they get it to work. I think the results would be truly impressive.

Intel did promise a mobile quad-core version of the 45nm Penryn in their roadmap, so until that cute little puppy comes along this is most likely the only quad-core laptop we will see until at least H12008.

I agree precisely that stability is a key factor, not just with the heat issues of the CPU but also, as you mentioned, concerning the failure rate of the system board. Keep in mind though that this design has been on sale since Q1 and we are now approaching Q4 - even with a high initial failure rate, that's plenty of time for the manufacturer to revise and improve on quality. And since no reputable manufacturer would want 80% of their inventory sitting in an RMA pile, I can only assume that the ODM engineers have had enough experience (with previous models) to put together something that you would expect to be impressive and reliable.

 

[lostandwandering]

Intel did promise a mobile quad-core version of the 45nm Penryn in their roadmap, so until that cute little puppy comes along this is most likely the only quad-core laptop we will see until at least H12008... Keep in mind though that this design has been on sale since Q1 and we are now approaching Q4 - even with a high initial failure rate, that's plenty of time for the manufacturer to revise and improve on quality. And since no reputable manufacturer would want 80% of their inventory sitting in an RMA pile, I can only assume that the ODM engineers have had enough experience (with previous models) to put together something that you would expect to be impressive and reliable.

I didn't hear about that release. Should be very interesting. I totally agree, if they don't have it figured out by now, there is something seriously wrong. I have yet to see an actual review of the quad core version, so I'm hoping for one in the near future.

P.S. if you've found a link to a review with the quad, I would be extremely interest and appreciative.

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Intel did promise a mobile quad-core version of the 45nm Penryn in their roadmap, so until that cute little puppy comes along this is most likely the only quad-core laptop we will see until at least H12008.[/quote]

Yeah, and for me the issue with the Quad Penryn's is the socket/chipset compatability. With the need to have the same voltage, it may be a hot chip at such low process. We'll have to wait and see.

This is the target though that I'm looking at for my next refresh, and hopefully by that time the HP HDX will ship with that, and displayport and a 1920x1200 display (and a free virtual girl 😗 ).

I tihnk qud's right now make little sense from a laptop / desktop replacement perspective mainly because the apps just really don't take enough advantage of it compared to ultra fast desktop ram and harddrives. I'll admit I want quad core in my laptop, but it's just currently not worth it versus building a whole new second desktop IMO.

 

[Luscious]

Yeah, and for me the issue with the Quad Penryn's is the socket/chipset compatability. With the need to have the same voltage, it may be a hot chip at such low process. We'll have to wait and see.

This is the target though that I'm looking at for my next refresh, and hopefully by that time the HP HDX will ship with that, and displayport and a 1920x1200 display (and a free virtual girl 😗 ).

I tihnk qud's right now make little sense from a laptop / desktop replacement perspective mainly because the apps just really don't take enough advantage of it compared to ultra fast desktop ram and harddrives. I'll admit I want quad core in my laptop, but it's just currently not worth it versus building a whole new second desktop IMO.

From my understanding (unless somebody out there can prove me wrong) the mobile Penryn will have the same package as the current T7x00 mobile Core 2 Duo, so it should be pin-compatible with most Santa Rosa notebooks, save for a BIOS update. Keep in mind, we are talking about the Socket-P notebook platform here, while this current Eurocom unit uses desktop LGA775 CPU's.

I got excited about the HP HDX as well, until I saw the 1680x1050 screen, single 2600XT VGA card and no Blu-Ray drive option. 20 inch notebook screens should be at least 1920x1200 as you suggest, and I am kind of partial to SLI and high-def at the $3000-$4000 price range. In all fairness, I would really like to see vendors offer both HD-DVD and Blu-ray drives and let the consumer choose which format they want to go with, instead of just pushing one or the other (or none) as they reluctantly do now. Granted, the market for this has yet to come.

Agreed, you need to have a fairly select set of objectives if you're looking at quad-core in a laptop, and it is at a hefty price premium. In my case I've got the software for it and the argument to be mobile. If you can see and understand the advantages of a mobile quad-core machine (as I am sure many out there already know) and apply it to what you do, it can make a world of a difference. For me, it would cut down my work time considerably (expense justified) and let me have more fun!

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

From my understanding (unless somebody out there can prove me wrong) the mobile Penryn will have the same package as the current T7x00 mobile Core 2 Duo, so it should be pin-compatible with most Santa Rosa notebooks, save for a BIOS update. Keep in mind, we are talking about the Socket-P notebook platform here, while this current Eurocom unit uses desktop LGA775 CPU's.

Yes I know, when I mention the heat, I'm talking about what they could be if the Penryn's weren't trying to be pin/voltage compatible. If they lowered the voltage the new process would be more efficient and generate less heat/noise. It should be cooler running than the Eurocom, but the voltage issue is why I'm curious to see what AMD offers at that time (maybe nothing quad though).

and I am kind of partial to SLI and high-def at the $3000-$4000 price range. In all fairness, I would really like to see vendors offer both HD-DVD and Blu-ray drives and let the consumer choose which format they want to go with, instead of just pushing one or the other (or none) as they reluctantly do now. Granted, the market for this has yet to come.

I'm not a fan of SLi in laptops (although GOD we know that one has the room for it) but it's because gaming is second for me. I kinda agree with the HD/BR comment, but my decision when buying this round was all external. I've done that in the past with my external LG DVD burners which are still faster than most laptop models and They're 3+ years old (the old style with FireWire + USB2.0). So this time around I'm using my Xbox360 HD-DVD player, and likely an external LaCie BR drive or something similar. I need the HD2600 to help with the acceleration, but for most road-warrior stuff I'll be fine with either DVD quality or ripping the HD content to my HDD (plan on adding the Hitachi 7K200 to whatever I get). So HD playback and 2D quality are paramount for me, but I would like to play Oblivion, and UT2K7/UT3 and Crysis even if the last two are only in the DX9 path and medium settings.

Agreed, you need to have a fairly select set of objectives if you're looking at quad-core in a laptop, and it is at a hefty price premium. In my case I've got the software for it and the argument to be mobile. If you can see and understand the advantages of a mobile quad-core machine (as I am sure many out there already know) and apply it to what you do, it can make a world of a difference. For me, it would cut down my work time considerably (expense justified) and let me have more fun!

Yeah, and for me I'd appreciate it (heck I built a separate dual MP editing rig for that purpose), but I find I trade off too much for deaktop replacements, and I guess I never got spoiled and I'm ok as an pro-sumer and not professional in long render times while I go off and do other things.

I'd love to go with a quad laptop, I just can't justify most of the potential options out there. The HDX was likely the only one that would have changed that, and hopefully by this time next year it will have DisplayPort, QuadCore and an MHD2700+/GF8750M+ (maybe R7xx/G9x based solution) with the proper resolution a 20" deserves. By then I get the feeling it might be the last laptop I ever buy.... but I know better than that. But it might last me a good solid 2 years without remorse or second guessing if it were configured like that. Also it's easier to justify $4-5K for something like that, than the $3K for what they're currently offering.

 

[HardWareBoss]

Quad smod. I'm waiting on 8 core.

 

[lostandwandering]

Quad smod. I'm waiting on 8 core.

That's the spirit!!!!!

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Pfft small minds think in small numbers

Octo's for the Procto, I wants me the Quantum core Laptop.

 

[Luscious]

Gotta update this again: Eurocom are now offering the 45nm Penryn quad core CPU in their units. The Q9300 and Q9450 processors can be ordered in addition to the Q6600 and Q6700 quad cores.

http://web.eurocom.com/EC/ec_model_config1(1,188,0)

They are also offering the E8400 CPU as a dual-core alternative.

Don't confuse these with the "mobile" Penryn - Intel should be releasing a "mobile quad" in H2.

Also look out for the 500GB drives available soon - with 3 of these inside this unit will be the only laptop to boast 1.5TB of storage.

I have to say this is not bad for a product that was originally released OVER A YEAR AGO. This model will have an impressive life cycle and is becoming more and more capable.

For all those early critics who screamed "it cannot be done" - well you're wrong!

 

[lostandwandering]

lol, still using desktop chips though which will eat batteries alive. There is supposed to be a mobile quad core chip coming out (i linked to an article a while back and reading further you also mention this), it's supposed to have a pretty hefty price tag though.

Also, I don't think anyone said it couldn't be done, we were just more concerned about the ramifications of doing it (as in heat and loss of battery life). As far as I know, the Clevo D901's have some of the highest RMA rates of any Clevo unit. Don't quote me on that though. 😉

 

[guillermozuniga]

Hypersonic EQ7 Brakes After Couple of Months

Spent $4,585 on this machine. It came incomplete. Ordered dual video card and they only sent one. They sent me the second one later. Opened it and it was dusty and used. Couple of months later the whole thing brakes. Won't start. Won't even make a sound.

Hypersonic's answer?

No their problem.

Conclusion - never buy from these guys. They don't know how to build computers and how to run a business.

Warned.

Very disappointed customer

 

[cheaptofix]

that was a core duo not a Quad! it is impossible to make a Quad laptop because of overheating. unless it's realy huge and heavy. read again (intel duo processor not Quad)

 

[lostandwandering]

that was a core duo not a Quad! it is impossible to make a Quad laptop because of overheating. unless it's realy huge and heavy. read again (intel duo processor not Quad)

a) this is an old thread. please let them die in peace.

b) read the entire page/ spec sheet:

Found under "idiology" on the overview page:

Equipped like a desktop PC, the EQ7 pushes mobile computing to the absolute limit featuring Intel Extreme and/or Quad-core processing

c) The chasis is fully capable of handling a Quad core. In this case it is a desktop Quad. Intel has also released a mobile quad that uses less power and produces less heat.

http/processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLB5G

http/processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLB5J