Foxconn Backtracks on "Workers Are Animals" Comparison

[house70]

Foxconn: workers are animals
Apple: customers are (i)sheep.
Go figure.

 

[tburns1]

So, considering the suicides, I am thinking Lemmings ...

 

[Phyrexiancure]

[citation][nom]goatsetung[/nom]How did he NOT mean it in the "insensitive" way it was portrayed? The workers are in fact treated like animals. Come to think of it many animals are treated better.[/citation]

Economic expediency over humans isn't exacly pretty. It was these realities that caused american western frontier was conquered at the cost of its indigenous population. Even when these necessary evils come to pass the end result isn't necessarily something most would want to live in. Society cannot just exist on one side of an ideological spectrum to be called human.

 

[Phyrexiancure]

[citation][nom]aliengenius[/nom]21st century America didn't spring from the ass of an offended liberal last week. As in all societies there is growth and transformation. Everything you see going on at Foxconn went on here, only worse. At least they have many other societies to look to as examples so their transformation may go more quickly and smoothly. Would you feel better about these workers if they were starving to death in a rice patty rather than committing suicide in a factory? Foxconn doesn't maraud the countryside enslaving villagers to work in their factories, these people show up and ASK for a job. It might suck to work there but what is their alternative? Starving? They could up their pay to US levels and then watch the politicians and bureaucrats step in to 'tax' their new pay or exact application 'fees' or some such, that is until manufacturers go elsewhere. Growing up is a process for societies just like it is for people. Trying to mess with that process is only going to cause problems. So go curl up in your warm blanket of moral outrage and feel better about yourself and leave these people to grow and evolve to a more mature society that even a whiny liberal can be almost content with.[/citation]


Economic expediency over humans isn't exacly pretty. It was these realities that caused american western frontier was conquered at the cost of its indigenous population. Even when these necessary evils come to pass the end result isn't necessarily something most would want to live in. Society cannot just exist on one side of an ideological spectrum to be called human.

 

[rpgplayer]

[citation][nom]NuclearShadow[/nom]When is the last time in America has 300 people from the same work place all threaten to end their lives at the exact same time? You can try to twist statistics all you wish but face it Foxconn has a problem with suicide. Where else do you see nets being put up around a buildings because jumpers are that common?The reasons for this is also unacceptable the things that have been revealed and how workers are often treated. The defense of Foxconn needs to stop at this point anyone who even tries such just looks like a ass and why even do it?[/citation]


You also have to look at a cultural difference between Asia and the U.S. Suicide in Asia isn't seen as much of a taboo as suicide in the U.S. is.

 

[Marthian]

Right... I don't think this was a matter of cultural differences, but rather the FACT YOUR PEOPLE DID NOT LIKE THEIR JOBS!! I swear it must be like the 1900s there.

 

[Ozlin]

[citation][nom]rpgplayer[/nom]You also have to look at a cultural difference between Asia and the U.S. Suicide in Asia isn't seen as much of a taboo as suicide in the U.S. is.[/citation]

You have no idea. Firstly, there are many countries and different cultures in Asia. Secondly, major religions in Asia also disapproved suicide. Thirdly, even in Japan, suicide is discouraged today.

 

[svdb]

[citation][nom]freggo[/nom]...Cities that have accidents, fires, explosions, suicides, murders etc.Not to defend some of that 'bad' things that likely go on at a corporation that size, but things DO happen that even the best efforts of the management ( or the major) can not prevent.[/citation]
At foxconn things don't happen by accident but by extremely bad management.

 

[wiyosaya]

The fact that Foxconn has to cover up after the fact is, IMHO, indicative of a very poor choice of words in the original statement. Seems that executives not having a clue of what it is like on the bottom is catching on in China. We export great stuff from the US; the rich have no clue what it is like for the poor.

IMHO, this also indicates that current means of economic compensation is failing all over the world. I don't know what to replace it with or have an answer, just that it seems quite clear it is not working and needs serious rethinking.

 

[del35]

ummmmmm, is that where iCrap got the idea of treating its gullible and unwavering fans as too dumb to care? Now it all falls into place.