G2 Rootkit Stops Owners from Android Hacking

[jaksun5]

Sorry hopefully swearing at big business isn't as bad as swearing at spammers :-D

 

[Khimera2000]

It can be argued eather way, but HTC still deliverd it as an option, and t-mobile impimented option, or it could of gone the other way around. One thing is a fact though T-Mobile could not do it without HTC, and whats to stop them from using it on any future phones.

 

[jaksun5]

I think if we seperate it like this we can lay appropriate blame:

-T-Mobile has the intention, we can hate them
-HTC is the 'enabler'. This might mean they sold this option to them, or used it to secure a deal, either way it's trading customer's right for jobs and it's poor form

I think like any crime the party with intention to violate cops worse penalties and is the one that should be focused on.

 

[Khimera2000]

I'll agree to that, but i cant dodge the fealing that this will not be the first, since companies can no longer lay down suits for jailbrakers at least in referance to DMCA of 1996.

 

[ricardok]

CM6 for MILESTONE!! NOW!!!
🙁

We, Milestone users are on the same boat. We have a "froyo" but not good enough cuz its just a port of 2.2 using 2.1 kernel (so, no flash). I wish our bootloader was open too. Not only the rooting part (I only use one ROOT app, so I don't really mind the root) but everything should be unlocked.. OPEN SOURCE!

 

[drutort]

well im still happy with G1, i have been debricking them with jtag and flashing them, so ya pretty much with a jtag approach its easy to fix any device, so long as the hardware is functional.

I dont get it, why dont they make it like others said just a simple way to flash, if they would make these bootloaders better and recovery system better too then all would be well the phones would gain a lot of popularity... and who cares about tech support? im sure they can see what OS version your running and say sorry you have your phone rooted we cant help you...

oh well g1 will be ok so long as i dont put too intensive stuff on it 😛 and keep the memory free... doesnt compare to the new cpu's and ram on the devices but hey 2.2 is nice 😛

 

[drutort]

the xda guys just need more time btw 😛 im sure they will find a way to get around that hardware... cause all u have to do is convince the hardware that your running the right version and boom the hardware doesnt stop you then 😛

 

[vectorm12]

I think the main issue with how companies handle smartphones(not to mention loads of other tech) is that it's not actually the techs who are calling the shots at the companies.

Usually you've got people with zero to no technical training or knowledge calling the shots thoroughly convinced it's "for the good of their customers".

In the end most tech firms needs new blood on the boards to embrace the fact that times have changed since the early 90s.

 

[maydaynomore]

[citation][nom]xantek24[/nom]Moderator Edit: swearing at the spammers isn't helping anything.[/citation]
Then stop them from spamming. Its getting worse by the day. soon enough the spam will outnumber legit comments.

 

[g00fysmiley]

just ignore the spammers, report the comment, and move on ... maybe ddos attack the site if you feel so inclined... but then move on after thier site is down

 

[thillntn]

locking out features and upgrades? Did t-mobile get bought out by $ony?????

 

[triculious]

so... where can I get an Desire Z instead of a G2?

 

[dustcrusher]

It's tech-naive execs doing this- they probably think people will muck with things and figure out how to get free phone calls or execute a DoS attack via people's phones or something.

Still, I'm surprised that we're not seeing unlocked Android phones being sold at a premium a la AMD Black Edition CPUs. I figured they'd use this as a reason to cash in as opposed to falling into paranoia.

 

[Guest]

Well, I somehow doubt that anyone in marketing at T-Mobile is reading this thread, but I am now holding off on upgrading to the G2 until both tethering and now this rootkit is dealt with.

 

[eddieroolz]

Something like this should've been outlawed in the Android charter. It goes completely against the supposedly "free and open" promise of Android.

More broadly speaking, it saddens me to see manufacturers go the route of Apple with their Android handsets.

 

[tburns1]

[citation][nom]xantek24[/nom]Moderator Edit: swearing at the spammers isn't helping anything.[/citation]

It helps me unload stress at the end of the day. Perhaps you can tighten the controls as to who can get a forum account here at Tom's?

Hey, how about we all go to the website we are spammed about and spam them about Tom's Hardware? I'm sure all the nit-wits looking for Nike Air Jordans will want to hear about PC hardware, CPU's, and such ...

 

[Guest]

Don't they know this will steer many consumers away from their phone? Also whenever they try to hack proof a phone they tend to get embarrassed once their hack proofing is hacked.

 

[jaygee02]

[citation][nom]thekurrgan[/nom]While I understand that carriers want to try and "protect" their users, if someone has the know how and willingness to try and put a custom rom / root their phone, so be it. What I dont understand is why they dont REALLY help their customers by ALLOWING people to screw with it and giving them a way to put it back to bone stock easily instead of relying on community support. While I understand the warranty is "void" by doing this, it IS only software, and as such SHOULDNT void any warranties because it can be put back with ease to the same condition as factory..bottom line, I wish manufacturers would stop fighting power users on this, its silly.[/citation]

Problem is, people who think they are power users but aren't, try to fiddle with things and break them, then expect them to be fixed for free. Number of laptops I see come in where the customer has reset them to factory defaults then gotten all upset because their data is gone... I can understand why manufacturers want to save those people from themselves.