[citation][nom]ThoughtProvokingName[/nom]This is why unions are formed[/citation]
with good intentions, than, after time, they try to f*** the people who use them.
[citation][nom]MM101[/nom]First thing they need is a good lawyer. Second is to all just walk out when they were scheduled to.[/citation]
you really don't get it do you. mcdonalds and burgerking do this crap too. telling to to work longer when you are off work, however in these cases, they worked off the clock, and if you didnt work, you would be fired later for someone who would do what was asked. i dont know what there employment situation is in a whole where they are, but would you risk losing your job, and potentially future employment due to no reference, on a walk out?
[citation][nom]Necroline[/nom]Since there is only a total of 168 hours in a week I find it rather hard to believe that someone has actually worked close to 90% of that time (and lived to tell about it)./Necroline, Denmark.[/citation]
when i was still big into everquest, i played the game nearly 150 hours a week by pulling allnighers and living off 2 hours of sleep here and there. when i was in hichschool i was only getting 2 hours of sleep because i had better s*** to do than finish my homework, get 2 hours of free time, than sleep (assumeing 8 hours of sleep) instead i recharged on weekends with 12-16 hours of sleep a day. i currently do nothing but sit at a computer, it takes little effort and when im doing something i could easily sit here for 16 hours+ than sleep and do the same the next day.
[citation][nom]bystander[/nom]This is not surprising. I've talked to a number of game programmers, and it's generally expected for them to work 80 hour weeks. It's easy to see some companies going even further.There was a time I considered the field, but not after hearing how tough it is.[/citation]
i considered it too, but back in the days of the super nintendo, when there were people who were the sole creative directors. now most games are a colaberation, and i seriously doubt out side of indi would i ever be able to make my dream games, but i need a budget of a AAA to do what i want...
[citation][nom]v4nquish[/nom]Your logic is laughable. No offense (seriously), but it is. Generalizations like that do nothing productive, and sadly it's become more and more common amongst the multiple 'political' parties. These employees should've left this place of employment long, long, long time ago. Dissatisfied where you work? You have 2 feet, use them. If the job market sucks, having terrible employment is better than no employment. Your employer isn't holding a gun to your head.[/citation]
actually, a no compete. its part of many contracts for anyone who works anything higher than janitor, sales rep, or assembly line.
basically is means you cant join a competing business for XX long, my dad has one for i believe 2 1/2 years after leaving he cant get work in the field he was trained if he leaves. its different if he is let go from budget constraints, but if he leaves himself, or is fired for poor work, it would be 2 1/2 years of waiting.
[citation][nom]dgingeri[/nom]Are you kidding me?!?! Unions support the lazy and the incompetent. They solve nothing. If anything, a union would just cripple the company until it collapses. As for the Republicans supposedly wanting all companies to treat their employees this way, think again. Republicans, like me, believe people should get what they work for, and work for what they get. If someone is not getting what they're working for, they should quit, like I did when I was in that situation. If someone is not working for what they get, they should be fired. Plain and simple. a company can't treat people that way if they can't keep people around. Any company will collapse if they can't get employees to actually do the work. That's the biggest power you have over them, if you do the job well.(You can ask The Duchossois Group about their local computer support problems. When I worked for them back in 1998, I was the only one answering the phones for 100-130 calls per day, constant with a queue of 4-5 calls on the phone, for their helpdesk. I had just enough time to take down a description of the problem and forward it on to the one person working on the problems, Granted, most of the problems were linked to very, very substandard hardware, such as the desktop machine they were using as a Lotus Notes server, being down nearly every day. I got sick due to the stress and went into the hospital for a week, to come back and find the helpdesk manager had attempted suicide in his cube while doing my job, and nobody had been answering the phones for the last two days of the week. They even left the blood on the carpet for two weeks after I got back because they were too cheap to get it replaced. a smell complaint by the senior management finally got that done. I walked out a month later. They went through 14 more people in the next year doing my job, and had gone through 6 other people in the 4 months before I took the job. I lasted 6 months. Talk about an evil company to work for. I got yelled and insulted at by senior management multiple times per day, for things that were the fault of their lack of spending on correct equipment and software. I got yelled at multiple times a day by senior management for them doing things I specifically told them NOT to do, like switching around PCMCIA cards on their laptops, and thus creating IRQ conflicts. I bet they still have major problems with staffing their computer support positions. I had similar situations with IBM and a couple other small companies. I boycott their products to this day.)[/citation]
there is one great thing that unions do.
companies cant fire you when you work there long enough and do enough that you can ask for a raise, than go and higher a new person to replace you because its cheaper. this is common place in programing fields, at least when my friend still worked in the field, he sense moved to i believe industrial electrician, due to the massive pay bump and not siting in front of a pc all day (15$ an hour, to 40$).
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now if they pay accordingly, such as 40 hours a week is normal, anything over is half, and holidays and sunday is double (if you aren't scheduled for Sunday and its a call in)
lets take a 10$ an hour job. thats 400$ for 40 hours. than the 80 extra is 1200$ for a total of 1400$ for 120 hours of work. if they don't pay over time, thats kind of sick to me.
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