Gaming laptop is worth more than a desktop pc

[Cons29]

well, if it is cheap, laptop or desktop, you really should not expect much from it.

while it is true that in 3 years time you will probably replace even your monitor, the thing is, you can get better performance by buying selected parts without replacing your case, monitor, etc. unlike a laptop that you basically replace everything.

and yes, mobile gpu/cpu's are slower due to thermal issues. imagine that heat source (gpu) with a gigantic cooler, try cramping that same heat source and cramp it into a laptop body. so they have to tone things down to compensate, otherwise it might melt

 

[zvmanning]

Meh it's all about preference. Laptops have the same power as desktops, and have the opportunity to be just as cool as a desktop without having any stupid water cooling added onto it. MAX settings to me, is not worth it anymore sitting in my room locked down because my gaming rig is 50lbs of ridiculous. I would much rather carry a 10lb gaming laptop that can run the same for about the same price even. To match desktops completely one must obviously spend 2000 + on a laptop. 7months later im sick of my 7970 build and want a laptop replacement. Being comfortable while gaming is what i want. I can't sit down and focus on games anymore i need to move around and be comfortable playing anywhere besides my room.

All preference related. I think laptops are better. I used to be that guy who thought oh yeah 100fps is so awesome, when really 50 - 60 is all you need and a lot of laptops can do that at a price lower than building a desktop. Powerful cool laptop > Desktop any day for me.

Also no choice is a good choice, graphics cards are expensive as balls, they only get more expensive the better they get. 500$ every 3 years, not too bad but then other parts start to die and things collapse. Same thing with laptops, it all has to do with luck

Do what you want, be tied down with a desktop if you don't like moving much, or get a laptop! <3

 

[pete123edgar]

It's down to preference but a gaming laptop is harder to troubleshoot. Unless you are good in building laptops, then I don't see how you can upgrade your laptop in a couple years down the road. Whereas a desktop, you can upgrade it later on easier than laptops.

 

[Cons29]

yes, preference, but i think, buck per buck a desktop is more powerful

 

[vrumor]

Meh it's all about preference. Laptops have the same power as desktops, and have the opportunity to be just as cool as a desktop without having any stupid water cooling added onto it. MAX settings to me, is not worth it anymore sitting in my room locked down because my gaming rig is 50lbs of ridiculous. I would much rather carry a 10lb gaming laptop that can run the same for about the same price even. To match desktops completely one must obviously spend 2000 + on a laptop. 7months later im sick of my 7970 build and want a laptop replacement. Being comfortable while gaming is what i want. I can't sit down and focus on games anymore i need to move around and be comfortable playing anywhere besides my room.

All preference related. I think laptops are better. I used to be that guy who thought oh yeah 100fps is so awesome, when really 50 - 60 is all you need and a lot of laptops can do that at a price lower than building a desktop. Powerful cool laptop > Desktop any day for me.

Also no choice is a good choice, graphics cards are expensive as balls, they only get more expensive the better they get. 500$ every 3 years, not too bad but then other parts start to die and things collapse. Same thing with laptops, it all has to do with luck

Do what you want, be tied down with a desktop if you don't like moving much, or get a laptop! <3

Same power as desktops? Not even close. Not even on their best day. If that were even remotely true, why would there be high end cooling products? Or even graphics cards? When just a simple slot fan would suffice? Or a dumbed down mobile GPU? Well it doesnt really, ask anyone who actually has a gaming laptop how difficult they are to keep cool. Mobile solutions will never be as powerful as a desktop, when dollar for dollar comparisons are made.

 

[arvinzd]

Same power as desktops? Not even close. Not even on their best day. If that were even remotely true, why would there be high end cooling products? Or even graphics cards? When just a simple slot fan would suffice? Or a dumbed down mobile GPU? Well it doesnt really, ask anyone who actually has a gaming laptop how difficult they are to keep cool. Mobile solutions will never be as powerful as a desktop, when dollar for dollar comparisons are made.

A high end thing you talking about is just for proffesional work for example like doing some visual creating thing.but for gaming(if you really need to maxed the setting like crazy aa on100x and super super ultra texture)you can always buy laptop that most likely cost $1700 and more.Even lower,if you consider to buy from a brand that build a customize barebone laptop.if you really want a quiet and have a very good cooling system. There is Asus rog,that fantasticly great in cooling system,cool design.and believe me i don't even realize that quiet and cool system is a monster gaming laptop.of course asus rog price more expensive because of the cooling and design i was talking about.it's just the same if you want to have a super cooling and quiet desktop,you will need a very high quality fan that don't make a sound and super cool,and it will cost you more money. Just the same.

 

[arvinzd]

Meh it's all about preference. Laptops have the same power as desktops, and have the opportunity to be just as cool as a desktop without having any stupid water cooling added onto it. MAX settings to me, is not worth it anymore sitting in my room locked down because my gaming rig is 50lbs of ridiculous. I would much rather carry a 10lb gaming laptop that can run the same for about the same price even. To match desktops completely one must obviously spend 2000 + on a laptop. 7months later im sick of my 7970 build and want a laptop replacement. Being comfortable while gaming is what i want. I can't sit down and focus on games anymore i need to move around and be comfortable playing anywhere besides my room.

All preference related. I think laptops are better. I used to be that guy who thought oh yeah 100fps is so awesome, when really 50 - 60 is all you need and a lot of laptops can do that at a price lower than building a desktop. Powerful cool laptop > Desktop any day for me.

Also no choice is a good choice, graphics cards are expensive as balls, they only get more expensive the better they get. 500$ every 3 years, not too bad but then other parts start to die and things collapse. Same thing with laptops, it all has to do with luck

Do what you want, be tied down with a desktop if you don't like moving much, or get a laptop! <3

That's right but you should care "laptop power=desktop"
If you talking about price/performance it will be.but the maximum potential still higher on desktop.i know an sli gtx680m will beat a single gtx 680 but if its a dual gtx 680 . Laptop surely beaten. But i mean who will buy a dual monster desktop gpu just for gaming?? Even with the single gpu you would too overkill games.so still, laptop still the best choice.
And I REALLY AGGREE that locked yourself in your room to play games all the times,is a bad idea.you would be called a loner and it's boring play computer always in the same way and same play.beside you could consider the gaming laptop as a high quality graphics gaming console in a big tv with your friends .anywhere that have a big tv,or just play it on your laptop with your friend at your friends home and you could always play lan party with your laptop anywhere. Pretty cool isn'it?

 

[dangthe]

That's kinda the thing that i talking about. Cheap desktop is bad in my experience

But your thread is more about gaming laptops vs gaming desktops so this ^ doesnt really apply.

my 2 cents: I tried to go the gaming-laptop-instead-of-desktop-lane and concluded that I made a grave mistake. I will never again buy a laptop for gaming. And as someone said in a post already, building and modding the desktop is half the fun as using it not to mention the fact that when I play a game I want my keyboard to be under a certain angle compared to my left hand, and that is something which is impossible to do with a laptop.

 

[dangthe]

A high end thing you talking about is just for proffesional work for example like doing some visual creating thing.but for gaming(if you really need to maxed the setting like crazy aa on100x and super super ultra texture)you can always buy laptop that most likely cost $1700 and more.Even lower,if you consider to buy from a brand that build a customize barebone laptop.if you really want a quiet and have a very good cooling system. There is Asus rog,that fantasticly great in cooling system,cool design.and believe me i don't even realize that quiet and cool system is a monster gaming laptop.of course asus rog price more expensive because of the cooling and design i was talking about.it's just the same if you want to have a super cooling and quiet desktop,you will need a very high quality fan that don't make a sound and super cool,and it will cost you more money. Just the same.

NO, you cant! The most extreme gaming laptops done even come close performance-wise as the high end desktops, how hard is it to understand this?

 

[arvinzd]

gtx 660m is different than gtx 660 desktop,but it will match gtx 560 or a gtx 650 ti,maybe just a little bit different speed

Feel free to check out the Graphics card hierarchy which also has guesstimates of some mobile chipsets.

The 660M is in the same slot as the Discrete: 8800 Ultra, 9800 GTX, 9800 GTX+, GTS 250, GTS 450.

The GTX560 and 650Ti are 3 tiers higher up, which represents a notable difference.

It's not that i don't believe the tomshardware chart,but there are some inaccurate things. Gts 250 diffrent than a gts 450 i ever own both and knew the difference.and the hardware spec of gtx 660 is the same with the gtx 560(but with a faster clock and something else,the both have the same quantity stream processor (384) and 2GB Gddr 5. An based on notebook check graphics ranking . Gtx 660m is very near to gtx 550 ti,with logic you now that gtx 660m is somewhere close to gtx 560

 

[dangthe]

You try to apply logic by looking at the model numbers, that doesn't sound very logical to me.

 

[arvinzd]

NO, you cant! The most extreme gaming laptops done even come close performance-wise as the high end desktops, how hard is it to understand this?

See for yourself gtx 680 sli is faster than a single gpu gtx 680 desktop. Google"notebook check"gtx 680m already maxed all settings in games.it's close

 

[arvinzd]

You try to apply logic by looking at the model numbers, that doesn't sound very logical to me.

I'm not apply logic by the model numbers.for.god sake . I see both specifications

 

[faster23rd]

See for yourself gtx 680 sli is faster than a single gpu gtx 680 desktop. Google"notebook check"gtx 680m already maxed all settings in games.it's close

OP, you've already highlighted your concern that Tom's GPU hierarchy has inaccurate content yet you base your claim on drop-down-and-select comparison website? I mean, I dunno, maybe show us some benches.

Anyway, you make a valid point in claiming that in terms of relative performance, not sheer power, the gaming laptop has more plus points. However, I'm inclined to disagree, because with $1100 or even less, I could build a rig that can smoke a similarly priced laptop and have a upgradability.

As for thermals, portability, and what not, that's subjective. I'm comfortable in sitting down and playing in my room, thank you.

I do think you're being hipster about this, but this discussion does bring a great subject for a future article, laptop vs. desktop GPUs. I hope TH's staff is reading this, I think it would be best if TH could do tests and benchmarks to finally refute or validate your claim. 😀

 

[arvinzd]

Before i continue .I'm sorry . What is hipster?? I'm an asian. I don't.know

 

[arvinzd]

OP, you've already highlighted your concern that Tom's GPU hierarchy has inaccurate content yet you base your claim on drop-down-and-select comparison website? I mean, I dunno, maybe show us some benches.

Anyway, you make a valid point in claiming that in terms of relative performance, not sheer power, the gaming laptop has more plus points. However, I'm inclined to disagree, because with $1100 or even less, I could build a rig that can smoke a similarly priced laptop and have a upgradability.

As for thermals, portability, and what not, that's subjective. I'm comfortable in sitting down and playing in my room, thank you.

I do think you're being hipster about this, but this discussion does bring a great subject for a future article, laptop vs. desktop GPUs. I hope TH's staff is reading this, I think it would be best if TH could do tests and benchmarks to finally refute or validate your claim. 😀

ya,it's better that TH do a benchmark test, i don't wanttomshardware misunderstood me,and i don't want to accuse.anyone. So i would like see the benchs updated.

 

[faster23rd]

Before i continue .I'm sorry . What is hipster?? I'm an asian. I don't.know

Well, I'm Asian too.. Hipster, someone who prefers the counter-culture rather than the mainstream.

 

[arvinzd]

Well, I'm Asian too.. Hipster, someone who prefers the counter-culture rather than the mainstream.

the thing is i counter the the old tradition of "desktop always beat laptop" because this year maybe there will be a technology leap. Like weak laptop you all talking about this year or maybe 2014 will become stronger than ever,then it's performance will be desktop performance.you see, i heard and explore more about the intel hasswell processor.that it's integrated gpu will be almost the same with gt 650m in gaming performance.it's a breakthrough! From just a little in hd 4000 into something double it.if this news really true.people will think "why we buy a 5.6 lbs laptop(usually with a gt 650m) gddr5),if there is an ultrabook with only intel hasswell(same performance) that weights much less?then nvidia and amd will work hard,some how this year or next ,they will produce a much stronger than the nvidia 600m series or amd 7000m series,so people still consider to buy a laptop with discreete gpu like nvidia and amd gpu or nvidia and amd will lose market.so basically i didn't being hipster i just being wise.

 

[Cons29]

660 is different from from 560, different architecture. 660 is kepler, 560 is... err fermi? (i forgot)

 

[arvinzd]

660 is different from from 560, different architecture. 660 is kepler, 560 is... err fermi? (i forgot)

Yup 660 desktop is kepler and a 560 desktop is a fermi.
Which make kepler new technology and much faster than fermi.