Gaming laptop is worth more than a desktop pc

[alphakp295]

I think gaming laptop right now is really worthed to buy than a desktop pc. I knew this a pretty strong statement,but in my country i calculate the component Setup that will produce a certain performance the chassis and the mouse & keyboard and monitor speaker everything,OS,PSU! And i found some gaming laptop with that certain performance and it's the same price! Even lower,with all the thing bundled into 1 thing and you don't need to running around the shop to found every component right, i mean you got a very reliable warranty(laptop with certain brand example:msi),and the most important thing portable!.maybe some of you won't agree,maybe because"laptop screen is small"or"it' performance miles away than a desktop" or still it's pretty weighty".but if you really like that "big screen" why don't you just buy an 17.3 inch or 18.4 inch laptop or just plug it your 40" tv?.(notice that i knew that there is difference performance in the same type of component example:gtx 660m is different than gtx 660 desktop,but it will match gtx 560 or a gtx 650 ti,maybe just a little bit different speed(that miles ahead statement is just too much underestimate laptop,which i was too but this year is real different,with the nvidia 700m and amd 8000m series will be available),i mean who cares about that very little bit difference,with a gtx 660m you can play bf3 full hd ultra setting 30fps+(maybe just some setting lowered by just 1 level,no one will ever notice in the real gaming session).with gtx 660m(already a kepler model which is nice ) you can get a laptop with just weight 2.4 kg,that's much better than your pc tower 6kg-8kg(that's really not practical ,even if you manage somehow to bring it around,you still have to bring the speaker,monitor,mouse keyboard, that's just impossible),ooo,about battery life(still a downside,(just 2 hours hard gaming, 4 is top and you can just plug in the ac adapter but some of you will say"ooo,then we got a moving deaktop gaming!",as i mention earlier,laptop much practical than a desktop pc to get the maximum use ,some of you will find this subjective and some of you will find this a fact and.some of you will find this is ****. But i still in hold my opinion hard.remember you always can consider laptop that more poweful than gtx 660m .in store right now there are much choice of powerful gaming laptop.
People are just too biased to believe something radical even it's right.

I don't know about you, OP, but I like my desktop.
I like to play game with my specific size monitor and accessories.
Even if I have my laptop, I would have my monitor, keyboard, speaker, mouse, and all other stuffs.
I've used 60" TV with my laptop, but it's just different than using 27" monitor.
I don't know how much games you got, but I have games that are over 4TB in total size.
I don't want to uninstall this to intstall other and so forth.
I like my SSD as an OS drive, apart from spaces I need.
I have 6 HDDs attached to my desktop... my laptop... has one slot... wow...
Gaming laptops got no more than 2 hdds...
I want my backup drive as well that constantly backup my documents, pictures, and etc.
I got over 10 USBs being connected to my current Desktop
Usage of USB increases with phone/tablet connection...
Let's see how may USB I got in my laptop.... 3...?
I don't care about crappy warranty that comes with the laptop.
I got warranty longer than laptop on each parts in my desktop, and I can fix the problems faster.

Do you crave for gaming so much that you have to play anywhere you're going to?
I love games, but I don't play BF3 for few minutes and pause and continue on later time.
I play games with my preferences, which will be available at my home whether I use desktop or laptop.
If I really want to play game while away, I still got my vita, 3ds, phone, etc...

There's just different usage of desktops...
I use my desktop as one stop solution, but I use my laptop for basic functionalities.
I wonder how many people would purchase the desktop and/or laptop solely for gaming...

 

[dangthe]

I don't know about you, OP, but I like my desktop.
I like to play game with my specific size monitor and accessories.
Even if I have my laptop, I would have my monitor, keyboard, speaker, mouse, and all other stuffs.
I've used 60" TV with my laptop, but it's just different than using 27" monitor.
I don't know how much games you got, but I have games that are over 4TB in total size.
I don't want to uninstall this to intstall other and so forth.
I like my SSD as an OS drive, apart from spaces I need.
I have 6 HDDs attached to my desktop... my laptop... has one slot... wow...
Gaming laptops got no more than 2 hdds...
I want my backup drive as well that constantly backup my documents, pictures, and etc.
I got over 10 USBs being connected to my current Desktop
Usage of USB increases with phone/tablet connection...
Let's see how may USB I got in my laptop.... 3...?
I don't care about crappy warranty that comes with the laptop.
I got warranty longer than laptop on each parts in my desktop, and I can fix the problems faster.

Do you crave for gaming so much that you have to play anywhere you're going to?
I love games, but I don't play BF3 for few minutes and pause and continue on later time.
I play games with my preferences, which will be available at my home whether I use desktop or laptop.
If I really want to play game while away, I still got my vita, 3ds, phone, etc...

There's just different usage of desktops...
I use my desktop as one stop solution, but I use my laptop for basic functionalities.
I wonder how many people would purchase the desktop and/or laptop solely for gaming...

What this fine gentleman said ^

 

[vrumor]

Why even bother arguing with the guy. Anyone with any common sense would know the difference between laptop and desktop performance if compared dollar for dollar. $1000 laptop is like just above low end for gaming, $1000 desktop and its more of a midrange gamer performance wise. Go buy a laptop OP.

 

[arvinzd]

Well,i'm sorry as i mentioned earlier some of you will find this subjective and some of you will find this a fact and.some of you will find this is **** and as i said earlier "in my country" the tax are pretty high here.and somehow i calculate the price between desktop and laptop.in a same performance . Laptop is lower. I mean tell me how much your desktop gaming system cost?

 

[arvinzd]

Why even bother arguing with the guy. Anyone with any common sense would know the difference between laptop and desktop performance if compared dollar for dollar. $1000 laptop is like just above low end for gaming, $1000 desktop and its more of a midrange gamer performance wise. Go buy a laptop OP.

With led monitor?steelseries keyboard mouse?good Speaker?good Chassis?

 

[faster23rd]

Well,i'm sorry as i mentioned earlier some of you will find this subjective and some of you will find this a fact and.some of you will find this is **** and as i said earlier "in my country" the tax are pretty high here.and somehow i calculate the price between desktop and laptop.in a same performance . Laptop is lower. I mean tell me how much your desktop gaming system cost?

What shithole Asian country are you from anyway? (Sent from a shithole Asian country)

 

[faster23rd]

With led monitor?steelseries keyboard mouse?good Speaker?good Chassis?

Not necessarily Steelseries keys and mice, but you could get capable peripherals and chassis for a thousand bucks.

 

[arvinzd]

Amd 7970 eh? Maybe you think is good to overkill games maybe with full hd all maxed out you still got 60+ fps more? Believe me it's all just self satisfaction/lust for more max setting,maybe it will find game that require that 7970 to get stable fps with great graphics.but technology always change.
.why don't get an price/performance pc system in this year that adequate to get stable fps with good grahics,and so on every 3 years.after got that 7970 and if you see the 8970 with new technology refinement and become really worth upgrade from the 7970?you would upgrade? After you spent an expensive gpu that overkill.you would buy another expensive gpu. That'a just one the example.how about monitor?ram with ddr4? Or you would upgrade ssd to nand next year? And laptop this yearnis adequate even maybe some offer more with same price. as i mention earlier people are biased and see only with 1 perceptive

 

[arvinzd]

What shithole Asian country are you from anyway? (Sent from a shithole Asian country)

Indonesia.it' just pretty hard to get gaming pc stuff with a good price.except gaming console,which i really hate.
Where'd you come from?

 

[arvinzd]

I see where your coming from. I can't fully disagree or agree with it as what you are saying can be right in some situations and true if you do things a certain way.

For me I prefer desktops due to being able to build it from the ground up and choose my parts. Have it setup with vastly superior cooling, and overclock it well beyond what you can do with a laptop due to this. Not to mention you have access to far more powerful components if you so choose.

And than you can easily do a quick "refresh" on components every few years. I personally plan to delay it till the parts are useless for me anymore and just use the case, optical drives, HD's, and anything else I can salvage. And keep the monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc. So I only have to replace the main components, which to me makes the 2nd time around when you do the upgrades vastly cheaper.

Though if you prefer to not overclock, and always buy everything new (keyboard, mouse, monitor, etc) when you upgrade the tower I can see how just buying the laptop be a good option. Especially if you don't build the desktop towers by yourself your more limited on good components and I can see a laptop and desktop equaling about the same price and performance when everything is factored into together when I stop to think about it. And add in the fact that it is mobile, I can see where your views come from quite easily.

Will I ever go the gaming laptop route again, no probably not I had too many bad experiences with it. I think I stick to my cheap lightweight laptops like my chromebook and my power hungry overclocked tower desktops to game and get real work done. It just works for me.

That's a good response with good reason.since 1 laptop is practicaly much easier to handle than 1 desktop(cable2,speaker,keyboard & mouse) and 1 weak cheap($250)laptop(as i'm sure i'ts still pretty heavy like 2.5 kg even with bad spec) i really consider 1 strong laptop beside it's not "green" for the earth to have many electronical devices.energy saving.electrical fees

 

[faster23rd]

Amd 7970 eh? Maybe you think is good to overkill games maybe with full hd all maxed out you still got 60+ fps more? Believe me it's all just self satisfaction/lust for more max setting,maybe it will find game that require that 7970 to get stable fps with great graphics.but technology always change.
.why don't get an price/performance pc system in this year that adequate to get stable fps with good grahics,and so on every 3 years.after got that 7970 and if you see the 8970 with new technology refinement and become really worth upgrade from the 7970?you would upgrade? After you spent an expensive gpu that overkill.you would buy another expensive gpu. That'a just one the example.how about monitor?ram with ddr4? Or you would upgrade ssd to nand next year? And laptop this yearnis adequate even maybe some offer more with same price. as i mention earlier people are biased and see only with 1 perceptive

Wouldn't that (the upgradability of desktops) be the best reason why they're better than laptops? I know you don't think that powerful cards are worth it and it would be senseless to replace them every 2-3, but there are folks here that do just that because it's what they have decided as the best choice for their cash. These folks can purchase top-of-the-line cards and run games across multiple screens with water-cooling in their rigs. By that perspective, it's easy to see why they say that desktops are better.

Like me, you're most likely in a position where you can't afford the best hardware, and so your perspective is heavily influenced by price. You keep saying something like "Why buy overkill hardware when I can get something that can perform satisfactorily by my standards?" and "Why buy a high-end desktop when I can run games smoothly and beautifully on a laptop?". But that's beyond the point, pound for pound, the desktop is STILL more powerful. Give the people here a budget and they will give you a rig that's the bang for your buck. Matters such as portability and such are only on the periphery; when you are measuring the best, it all comes down to absolute performance per price. The desktop wins that. Compare 660m to the 560 (or whatever) all you want, but the price of a laptop that has that part will be greater than the price of a desktop with a better component.

Anyway, I'm from the Philippines, basically your neighbor. We do have good retailers and fair prices here though, that may be why I have a different experience with desktops than you. 😀

 

[arvinzd]

Wouldn't that (the upgradability of desktops) be the best reason why they're better than laptops? I know you don't think that powerful cards are worth it and it would be senseless to replace them every 2-3, but there are folks here that do just that because it's what they have decided as the best choice for their cash. These folks can purchase top-of-the-line cards and run games across multiple screens with water-cooling in their rigs. By that perspective, it's easy to see why they say that desktops are better.

Like me, you're most likely in a position where you can't afford the best hardware, and so your perspective is heavily influenced by price. You keep saying something like "Why buy overkill hardware when I can get something that can perform satisfactorily by my standards?" and "Why buy a high-end desktop when I can run games smoothly and beautifully on a laptop?". But that's beyond the point, pound for pound, the desktop is STILL more powerful. Give the people here a budget and they will give you a rig that's the bang for your buck. Matters such as portability and such are only on the periphery; when you are measuring the best, it all comes down to absolute performance per price. The desktop wins that. Compare 660m to the 560 (or whatever) all you want, but the price of a laptop that has that part will be greater than the price of a desktop with a better component.

Anyway, I'm from the Philippines, basically your neighbor. We do have good retailers and fair prices here though, that may be why I have a different experience with desktops than you. 😀

Ok then try this: i want an $1100 it's have to include gaming desktop and a light laptop.

 

[faster23rd]

Ok then try this: i want an $1100 it's have to include gaming desktop and a light laptop.

Dude, what is that going to prove? Isn't that beyond our laptop>desktop discussion already? If you're gonna ask to (and you can) build a rig on that budget and still get a laptop, wouldn't that debunk your claim that laptops are better?

 

[arvinzd]

Even though you all have high end (7970,that's just crazy)
I know how you all think. "OoO 7970 and 7950 it's not that much price difference,but in your standards the performance is real big,why don't buy the stronger one?" you.see.7970 and a 7950 has a really different performance(benchs number)
But real gaming session ,again i said i was a desktop fanboy,i understand the feeling to running around store just to get the exact product you want,it's kinda fun i know it,but maybe i just don't want to be less addicted to game(since playing desktop pc in your is just sick,when you can do anything else outside home and that's when laptop will show it's teeth. as i think what i was doing as a desktop user.like seeing memory what i was doing all this year.i realize it's bad for my life. I prefer laptop so i can get best both world(when my lust for game is on i can play it anywhere(not everytime)

 

[arvinzd]

Dude, what is that going to prove? Isn't that beyond our laptop>desktop discussion already? If you're gonna ask to (and you can) build a rig on that budget and still get a laptop, wouldn't that debunk your claim that laptops are better?

I don't, cause i already know there won't be that criteria. There won't be a $800 desktop that will beat $1100 laptop. And there won't be 14" laptop that weight a little $300

 

[Cons29]

Yup 660 desktop is kepler and a 560 desktop is a fermi.
Which make kepler new technology and much faster than fermi.

yes but you just said that hardware-wise they are the same, which they are not.

 

[arvinzd]

yes but you just said that hardware-wise they are the same, which they are not.

I'm sorry i didn't understand the whole story.you talking about. Maybe retell?

 

[faster23rd]

Even though you all have high end (7970,that's just crazy)
I know how you all think. "OoO 7970 and 7950 it's not that much price difference,but in your standards the performance is real big,why don't buy the stronger one?" you.see.7970 and a 7950 has a really different performance(benchs number)
But real gaming session ,again i said i was a desktop fanboy,i understand the feeling to running around store just to get the exact product you want,it's kinda fun i know it,but maybe i just don't want to be less addicted to game(since playing desktop pc in your is just sick,when you can do anything else outside home and that's when laptop will show it's teeth. as i think what i was doing as a desktop user.like seeing memory what i was doing all this year.i realize it's bad for my life. I prefer laptop so i can get best both world(when my lust for game is on i can play it anywhere(not everytime)

Dude. We're not talking about your lifestyle or habits, this is about the price/performance of rigs in comparison to gaming laptops. I think you should let this rest, you're argument has been effectively debunked.

 

[Cons29]

..and the hardware spec of gtx 660 is the same with the gtx 560(but with a faster clock and something else,the both have the same quantity stream processor (384) and 2GB Gddr 5...

i was talking about this. and since you agree that they have different architecture, then they are not the same hardware-wise with just a faster clock and sp. if it's a faster clock then that would be a 570 or 580 vs a 560, but NOT a 660.

let me just say this, for portability, of course the laptop wins, hands down. but not everyone needs portability, but i believe that everyone wants performance. of course price is another factor, but everyone wants performance.

a comment about playing in a room, well again that is preference. i do not enjoy lugging around a 3kg laptop, maybe if i can bring a car everyday ill consider that.
also, playing games inside a room: if you have a g27 with 5.1 (or better speaker), with bucket seat, 3 monitor setup with a monster rig. Wouldn't you want to stay in that room? hell i do.

why would anyone buy sli? you'll be surprised how many have those setup, yes it will burn the pocket, but it is their pocket.
7970? yes with a high enough resolution and a heavy game, they will drop <60, and having 2 cards will help that (of course there are issues sometimes but that is a different poin).

and i agree, hdd capacity, you can only bring so much, with a desktop well, use your imagination.
the tons of choices of parts is just a lot better than for a laptop, sure you can buy a separate KB mouse for you lappy, but that is additional weight

 

[faster23rd]

I don't, cause i already know there won't be that criteria. There won't be a $800 desktop that will beat $1100 laptop. And there won't be 14" laptop that weight a little $300

Duuuudee. You are screwing your argument to death? I thought you don't like paying premium for performance? Then why do say that you prefer a $1100 laptop over a $800 rig? Jeez. Price/performance, man. Price/performance.