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This will be awesome! once it works...just think...no traffic b/c all the cars will drive correctly w/o breaking...get there faster....I can read a book while i am sitting in my car...sleep. ha...even eventually having a drink will be acceptable (probably a LONG ways from now)...but seriously no doubt about it...it will be awesome once it works....btw the drive to vegas is horrendous and anyone who does that drive would definitely welcome a someone else to drive it...thats why they choose nevada...and all the open straight roads 
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[citation][nom]nebun[/nom]it's not going to happen....nothing beats the human brain...there are situations in wich a robot can not make the correct decisions[/citation]
This isn't quite the case with driving. Driving can be broke down to mathematics and thus probabilities. If there is a emergency situation the car could calculate many different actions before being forced to take one before a human could. Leading up to a more likely desirable outcome. It won't be perfect but I would say its safe to believe it can surpass humans.
[citation][nom]molo9000[/nom]Can a computer identify a distracted child that might run into the road? Can a computer anticipate other driver's behaviour?[/citation]
Obviously the car will work on external sensors that would detect things that are more than the width of the road likely more than any human can as I would assume it would be made to look in every direction all at once. So it would see the said child in your scenario, likely notice the child before the human inside even takes notice and monitors it (and every other moving object perhaps even seeing if they are a heat source). So if the child, pet, Godzilla, or any other object gets too close to the road it likely would slow down to the point of breaking becoming easy. As for other drivers behavior... yes it can assuming they also have a self driving car.
This isn't quite the case with driving. Driving can be broke down to mathematics and thus probabilities. If there is a emergency situation the car could calculate many different actions before being forced to take one before a human could. Leading up to a more likely desirable outcome. It won't be perfect but I would say its safe to believe it can surpass humans.
[citation][nom]molo9000[/nom]Can a computer identify a distracted child that might run into the road? Can a computer anticipate other driver's behaviour?[/citation]
Obviously the car will work on external sensors that would detect things that are more than the width of the road likely more than any human can as I would assume it would be made to look in every direction all at once. So it would see the said child in your scenario, likely notice the child before the human inside even takes notice and monitors it (and every other moving object perhaps even seeing if they are a heat source). So if the child, pet, Godzilla, or any other object gets too close to the road it likely would slow down to the point of breaking becoming easy. As for other drivers behavior... yes it can assuming they also have a self driving car.
[citation][nom]molo9000[/nom]Human error is the cause of most airplane crashes.... Would u ever get inside an airplane with no pilot?Can a computer identify a distracted child that might run into the road? Can a computer anticipate other driver's behaviour?[/citation]
yes I would get into a plane with no pilot for the first point you made. planes have been able to fly them selves for quite a long time. the pilot is more of a fail safe than anything
and to your second point a computer may not be able to anticipate another drivers behaviour but neither can people so I'm not sure what your point is here?
the only problem i have with this is i have to much fun driving my car
yes I would get into a plane with no pilot for the first point you made. planes have been able to fly them selves for quite a long time. the pilot is more of a fail safe than anything
and to your second point a computer may not be able to anticipate another drivers behaviour but neither can people so I'm not sure what your point is here?
the only problem i have with this is i have to much fun driving my car
[citation][nom]molo9000[/nom]Can a computer identify a distracted child that might run into the road? Can a computer anticipate other driver's behaviour?[/citation]
Of course it can, what do you think Google has been testing? You're also making the assumption that human drivers are well adapted to do these things; if you truly believe this you must not do a lot of driving!
I used to drive trucks for a living so I know a thing or two about dangerous driving and the last thing I'd be worried about is a well tested computer aided autonomous car driving next to me. A computer isn't going to speed up when I put on my turn signal or drive on my ass if I'm in their way.
People suck at driving, it's about time we let computers do it!
Of course it can, what do you think Google has been testing? You're also making the assumption that human drivers are well adapted to do these things; if you truly believe this you must not do a lot of driving!
I used to drive trucks for a living so I know a thing or two about dangerous driving and the last thing I'd be worried about is a well tested computer aided autonomous car driving next to me. A computer isn't going to speed up when I put on my turn signal or drive on my ass if I'm in their way.
People suck at driving, it's about time we let computers do it!
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[citation][nom]molo9000[/nom]Human error is the cause of most airplane crashes.... Would u ever get inside an airplane with no pilot?Can a computer identify a distracted child that might run into the road? Can a computer anticipate other driver's behaviour?[/citation]
Very often, humans can't do all these things either. And much much more.
Simple: humans do mistakes all the time. A computer CANNOT do a mistake, even theoretically. Every PC problem ever occured has been caused by humans. The less humans are involved, the safer things will become.
Very often, humans can't do all these things either. And much much more.
Simple: humans do mistakes all the time. A computer CANNOT do a mistake, even theoretically. Every PC problem ever occured has been caused by humans. The less humans are involved, the safer things will become.
You say you use to drive lorries for a living, they all could be out of work with this system.
Its a good idea, But I like driving (A bit of a petrolhead). I do worry if it comes standard practise, Human driven cars might end being banned (due to health and safety etc), that will be a very sad day in my book.
Its a good idea, But I like driving (A bit of a petrolhead). I do worry if it comes standard practise, Human driven cars might end being banned (due to health and safety etc), that will be a very sad day in my book.
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[citation][nom]NuclearShadow[/nom]This isn't quite the case with driving. Driving can be broke down to mathematics and thus probabilities. If there is a emergency situation the car could calculate many different actions before being forced to take one before a human could. Leading up to a more likely desirable outcome. It won't be perfect but I would say its safe to believe it can surpass humans.
Obviously the car will work on external sensors that would detect things that are more than the width of the road likely more than any human can as I would assume it would be made to look in every direction all at once. So it would see the said child in your scenario, likely notice the child before the human inside even takes notice and monitors it (and every other moving object perhaps even seeing if they are a heat source). So if the child, pet, Godzilla, or any other object gets too close to the road it likely would slow down to the point of breaking becoming easy. As for other drivers behavior... yes it can assuming they also have a self driving car.[/citation]
ok, where is the logic? i know for a fact that robots can not and will not have logic the way a human's brain does....all it does it's what it was programed to do....now, let's say that for some reason unknow the cpu blows up while you are cruising at 70mph....what then?
Obviously the car will work on external sensors that would detect things that are more than the width of the road likely more than any human can as I would assume it would be made to look in every direction all at once. So it would see the said child in your scenario, likely notice the child before the human inside even takes notice and monitors it (and every other moving object perhaps even seeing if they are a heat source). So if the child, pet, Godzilla, or any other object gets too close to the road it likely would slow down to the point of breaking becoming easy. As for other drivers behavior... yes it can assuming they also have a self driving car.[/citation]
ok, where is the logic? i know for a fact that robots can not and will not have logic the way a human's brain does....all it does it's what it was programed to do....now, let's say that for some reason unknow the cpu blows up while you are cruising at 70mph....what then?
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The hard part is going to be integrating the computerized cars in with human controlled cars. If they were all computerized, they could communicate with eachother in a vast network and you would never ever see a car accident ever.
Just sayin - this is a good idea to a point.
Just sayin - this is a good idea to a point.
It sounds like a good idea in theory, computer controlled cars will always obey the rules. The only thing is if the system has an error and your sleeping away in the back seat your pretty much screwed. If one car has a certain error the other computer controlled cars can all avoid it, depending on what the error was. If the car had an error where the car would run completely off the road at 100km/h then there would be no way to recover from it then your also screwed.
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A driverless car might actually be an improvement over many drivers in the areas I travel to often, like Chicago, DC, and Atlanta. Heck, it couldn't be any worse. Between the cell phone plastered to one ear, while messaging on a Blackberry, and fixing their hair, simultaneously, many drivers are simply too distracted to be safe and are reckless, at best. Multi-tasking is not a capability that humans excel at when behind the wheel. A computer on the other hand might end up being safer!
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[citation][nom]NuclearShadow[/nom]This isn't quite the case with driving. Driving can be broke down to mathematics and thus probabilities. If there is a emergency situation the car could calculate many different actions before being forced to take one before a human could. Leading up to a more likely desirable outcome. It won't be perfect but I would say its safe to believe it can surpass humans.Obviously the car will work on external sensors that would detect things that are more than the width of the road likely more than any human can as I would assume it would be made to look in every direction all at once. So it would see the said child in your scenario, likely notice the child before the human inside even takes notice and monitors it (and every other moving object perhaps even seeing if they are a heat source). So if the child, pet, Godzilla, or any other object gets too close to the road it likely would slow down to the point of breaking becoming easy. As for other drivers behavior... yes it can assuming they also have a self driving car.[/citation]
there is too many probabilities that is why it is a bad idea. example. someone take a heart attack while driving and puts the car on autopilot or something like on star does and somehow something fails on the car and the way to the hospital and the car crashes so somthing where an ambulance would be better to save you than rely on some questionable tech to save you.
makes me wonder how many lawsuits Ford has right now because there park assist crashed them into another car
there is too many probabilities that is why it is a bad idea. example. someone take a heart attack while driving and puts the car on autopilot or something like on star does and somehow something fails on the car and the way to the hospital and the car crashes so somthing where an ambulance would be better to save you than rely on some questionable tech to save you.
makes me wonder how many lawsuits Ford has right now because there park assist crashed them into another car
How will the driverless car know a red traffic light? Or a STOP sign at the corner? Or a legal parking spot? Or if it's on the proper side of the road? If there are traffic violations, who do you issue the ticket to? Just too many factors to consider, any small oops will result in a big ouch.
[citation][nom]nebun[/nom]ok, where is the logic? i know for a fact that robots can not and will not have logic the way a human's brain does....all it does it's what it was programed to do....now, let's say that for some reason unknow the cpu blows up while you are cruising at 70mph....what then?[/citation]
your 'fact' is wrong. ever heard of Watson? computers had already surpassed us in 1986. and it's what? 2011 now?
there are, of course, multiple, redundant cpus all working the same program at the same time and have to agree on the course of action at any instant. if one 'dies' the rest can continue until they are able to reach a repair shop.
your 'fact' is wrong. ever heard of Watson? computers had already surpassed us in 1986. and it's what? 2011 now?
there are, of course, multiple, redundant cpus all working the same program at the same time and have to agree on the course of action at any instant. if one 'dies' the rest can continue until they are able to reach a repair shop.
[citation][nom]cookoy[/nom]How will the driverless car know a red traffic light? Or a STOP sign at the corner? Or a legal parking spot? Or if it's on the proper side of the road? If there are traffic violations, who do you issue the ticket to? Just too many factors to consider, any small oops will result in a big ouch.[/citation]
ever heard of a camera?
violations would be impossible.
ever heard of a camera?
violations would be impossible.
[citation][nom]molo9000[/nom]Can a computer identify a distracted child that might run into the road? Can a computer anticipate other driver's behaviour?[/citation]
From what I've seen current computers aren't able to identify children near the road, but can identify any obstacle in the road. Most human drivers don't change their driving based on children near the road either, and computers can react a lot faster than humans. Overall still an improvment.
Computers can anticipate other drivers behavior based on red lights, tail lights, blinkers etc.
The things that make automated drivers safer in theory are perpetual alertness and shorter reaction times.
From what I've seen current computers aren't able to identify children near the road, but can identify any obstacle in the road. Most human drivers don't change their driving based on children near the road either, and computers can react a lot faster than humans. Overall still an improvment.
Computers can anticipate other drivers behavior based on red lights, tail lights, blinkers etc.
The things that make automated drivers safer in theory are perpetual alertness and shorter reaction times.
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