HD CRT Tube Televisions

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You're either full of it, or ignorance.

I had been working in a company which was a major authorized service center
for all major brands. I have the statistic data every year to show that Sony
is one of the most frequently broken brands, and I know every problems they
had.

Someone just keep paying high price to get poor stuff all their life without
even knowing it....


In article <g8e_d.12696$nZ.1038102@twister.southeast.rr.com>, "Badger"
<cferriola@gmail.com> wrote:
>You're either full of it, or lucky.
>Clay
>"X. Lu" <xlujgu@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:39sv8cF65btsuU1@individual.net...
>> I have many electronics at home. Every Sony broke more than once in
>light
>> use. None of the RCA, GE or Radio Shack has any problems in heavy
>use.
>
>

 

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"X. Lu" <xlujgu@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:39vk1hF638q2rU1@individual.net...
> You're either full of it, or ignorance.
>
> I had been working in a company which was a major authorized service
center
> for all major brands. I have the statistic data every year to show that
Sony
> is one of the most frequently broken brands, and I know every problems
they
> had.
>
> Someone just keep paying high price to get poor stuff all their life
without
> even knowing it....

Every brand breaks and needs service. Unless you know how many sets are
sold in your market, how many people have moved in with what sets, and every
other variable, the statistics on how many sets your company serviced only
tells you how many sets you serviced, not much more. I service mostly
Mitsubishi and Sony because that's what we have sole the most of in the past
18 years and we mostly service our own customers. Another shop locally is
authorized for nearly all brands and rarely sees either because we service
much of it.

The fact is that there are no good statistics on whose sets break more.
What you can conclude from working on them is which brands tend to do stupid
things and which brands have repeat failures of the same nature. Sony had
the infamous 2sc4834 switching pair in the PS that failed a lot because of
bad solder joints on the HDT. RCA had the infamous TOB problem, the high
failure rates on the anode splitters in the PTK169 series RPTVs, the EEPROM
problems, coolant leaks on the PTK195 series, etc. Hitachi had the leaky
SMD caps in comb filters and convergence modules. Mitsubishi had the
infamous V11 chassis sets with all the bad capacitors and the PIP modules
with bad SMD caps. Philips, well Philips is Philips and it is hard to
describe all the stupid things that they have done. The point is that all
manufacturers have problems. The better brands tend to have fewer silly
designs and poor applications than the lower tier brands. It is hard to
know, but asking shop techs will give you some ideas.

I can assure you that many shops have been kept in business by the RCA TOB
and Philips coolant contamination fiascoes. I stay pretty busy fixing RCA
sets even though we never sold one. We are even seeing repeat failures on
the cheaply made flyback transformers that they supply. Personally, having
seen the way TCE (RCA) builds things, the poor designs in terms of service
access in recently years and the typically mediocre to poor performance, I'd
take a Sony over and RCA in almost all cases, notwithstanding the dumb
things that Sony has done over the years.

Regardless, whatever your buy is going to break at some point. Hopefully it
will be at a point beyond what you consider to be a reasonable service life
of the product. Chances are pretty good that it won't. Make sure that you
have local service support for whatever product you buy that has the
experience and relationship with the manufacturer that will allow a good
service experience.

The trend is toward large service operations that employ techs that know
little more than how to swap boards. Out of warranty repairs are more
costly with this type of service and buyers should beware. Check out the
service options before you buy.

Leonard

 

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On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:25:18 -0500, "Leonard Caillouet" <no@no.com>
wrote:

>...

Not to mention all the people that buy a cheap TV and chuck it when it
breaks cuz a new one's about the same cost as the repairs.

What's a 27" set now versus the repair bill ?

 

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Marty C wrote:
> First, what does everyone think about the Toshiba HD CRT Tube. I am looking
> at the 34 inch model. Are Toshiba's good, or would you recommend another
> brand.

You cannot go wrong with the 34" CRT Sony. It's great. I've had it
for over a year and love it.

I HAVE AN 30 IN 3 YRS OLD AND IT IS ALREADY BLINKING AND ROLLING 720P TOSHIBA 30 INCH TUBE AND WILL NOT BUY ANOTHER ONE