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On 20 Oct 2004 23:38:52 GMT, oneactor1@aol.com (Steve Grauman) wrote:

>>I always thought the LIS LD looked and
>>sounded excellent for an LD. Anyone else agree?
>
>Uh-oh, Kraig said a LD looked excellent. How dare you!
>Steve Grauman

"for an LD." That's a pretty big qualifier...
 
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>"for an LD." That's a pretty big qualifier...
>

Of course. But he jumped down my throat for calling the Star Wars: Episode One
Laserdisc "impressive". He went on one of his typical ramblings about how
vastly superior the DVD is, although I never attempted to make any comparison
between the laserdisc and the DVD. I would admit freely if asked that the DVD
is certainly superior in performance. Kraig's reading comprehension is
questionable, and he takes any and every compliment of a Laserdisc to be a
direct attack on the capabilities of DVD. He also likes to give his infamous
lecture on how his morals and principles are superior to ours and how he's
obviously the most steadfast of us in his beliefs; the primary of which is that
we're all blubbering idiots obssessed with a long-dead A/V format that was
underachieveing even in it's hayday.
Steve Grauman
 
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On 21 Oct 2004 06:46:31 GMT, oneactor1@aol.com (Steve Grauman) wrote:

>>"for an LD." That's a pretty big qualifier...
>>
>
>Of course. But he jumped down my throat for calling the Star Wars: Episode One
>Laserdisc "impressive". He went on one of his typical ramblings about how
>vastly superior the DVD is, although I never attempted to make any comparison
>between the laserdisc and the DVD. I would admit freely if asked that the DVD
>is certainly superior in performance. Kraig's reading comprehension is
>questionable, and he takes any and every compliment of a Laserdisc to be a
>direct attack on the capabilities of DVD. He also likes to give his infamous
>lecture on how his morals and principles are superior to ours and how he's
>obviously the most steadfast of us in his beliefs; the primary of which is that
>we're all blubbering idiots obssessed with a long-dead A/V format that was
>underachieveing even in it's hayday.
>Steve Grauman

Oh, I'm quite familiar with Kraig and how he "enjoys" this forum. Like
most of the people here, he's a bright guy. But like many of the
people here, he's also quirky as all hell. (Hey -- to be still
following LD "developments" several years after the format has
officially died is quirky. Period.).
 
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"Joshua Zyber" <jzyber@SPAMMERS-BITE-ME.mindspring.com> wrote in message news:<Ex7dd.1123$5i5.298@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
> "Mattias Karlsson" <nin@beta.telenordia.se> wrote in message
> news:225c767a.0410190238.71e0ec03@posting.google.com...
> > I will do more comparission soon, just to see what player gives the
> > best picture. Right now, one can't really know if the skin-tone's on
> > the Star Wars is too red or not on the disc or if it's the player that
> > does it.
>
> Flesh tones can be adjusted at the display. What I'd be looking for is
> moe detail and less noise.
>
> > So do anyone have any reference LD they think I should use? I was
> > thinking about take Fifth element, but if anyone have some suggestion,
> > let me know.
>
> Fifth Element is good. Austin Powers is also good.

Well, I tried my Crystalio today with my Barco 801 and oh my god what
great the Fifth Element looked with the HLD-X0! Have not tweaked the
Crystalio yet but my friend that have a DLP (Infocus 4805) said; This
is better than any DVD on my set-up! Well, his PJ is not that great
but I would guess that most "joe's" and even some HT people would
think it was a 16:9 dvd playing.
Didn't have time to tweak and compare with the HLD-X9, will do that
when I get my 9500LC PJ next month.

/Mattias
 
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>But like many of the
>people here, he's also quirky as all hell.

Are you serious? You're going to boil habitual lying and regular off-topic
ranting down to being quriky?
Steve Grauman
 
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Steve wrote "Are you serious? You're going to boil habitual lying and
regular off-topic ranting down to being quriky?

Steve, Kraig has been posting on this ng for many years. Originally, he
was quite interested in the format and would relate his activities in
regards to acquiring decent players. When he first bought the Elite 99
he posted his views of the player and seemed to like it. Later, when he
got his HLD X9 he posted that too.
He once took a trip to Japan and posted his laserdisc purchases. It was
very interesting reading.
I remember the "great laserdisc player shootout" when Kraig had
several LD enthusiasts over to his place to compare an Elite 97, HLD X9
and, I believe, an Elite 79.
It was very interesting to read the results of this shootout.
It's only in recent years, with the advent of great quality dvd
players, superior HD monitors and a vast library of dvd titles, that
Kraig has been tweaking the noses of LD enthusiasts.
I can't see the logic in coming here and insulting people. I've often
wondered why Kraig doesn't visit the CED format ng's and really go to
town!
People who enjoy that format have their heads deeper in the sand than
LD enthusiasts! I mean, HELL, LD players are still being built, in the
form of Karaoke players! How long has it been since a CED player was
built? It was only 4 or 5 years ago that the last few North American
laserdisc releases ceased. How long has it been since a CED title was
last released.
I hereby implore Kraig to go load up his guns, visit the CED
talkgroups, and Lay Waste to THOSE technological misfits for awhile ;)
I mean, how misguided are those poor devils, sliding those damned
plastic cartridges into glorified "record players" watching VHS quality
movies?
GO GET 'EM KRAIG!!
Kevin
 
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>Steve, Kraig has been posting on this ng for many years

I respect that, as I respect all of you. I acknowledge and enoy the fact that
you all have vast experience with the LD format and I find this board to be a
great source of shared knowledge, even though I may not always act as such. But
his long-standing presence here does not make his innapropriate behavior any
more acceptable.

>Originally, he
>was quite interested in the format and would relate his activities in
>regards to acquiring decent players

Which, I believe, is largely what this board was created for. Anyone who is as
disinterested in Laserdisc and as disgusted with those of us who still choose
to enjoy the format as Kraig is doesn't really have any reason to be posting
here. He seems to to think his reason for posting is to show us all the "right
way" and to lambast us with his "holier than thou" attitude and I personally
find it disgusting.

>It's only in recent years, with the advent of great quality dvd
>players, superior HD monitors and a vast library of dvd titles, that
>Kraig has been tweaking the noses of LD enthusiasts.

I don't think anyone here is or ever has tried to downplay the obvious
superiority of the DVD format. It seems to me that we all own and enjoy DVD
players and, in many cases, large libraries of DVD software. There's certainly
some room here for a little *friendly* DVD Vs. LD discussion, and a little
debate on what makes the LD format viable to us. What there isn't room for,
IMO, is habitual and outright lying, the regular and severe twisting of words
or the obvious penchant for starting flamewars that Kraig seems to enjoy.

>I can't see the logic in coming here and insulting people. I've often
>wondered why Kraig doesn't visit the CED format ng's and really go to
>town!

Or the VHS board for that matter, or the Beta board. Why someone so enthralled
with DVD and so obviously disgusted with the LD format and those who enjoy it
would spend ANY time here is beyond me.

>I mean, HELL, LD players are still being built, in the
>form of Karaoke players!

Pioneer still sells the CLD-R5 and DVL-919 in Japan and discs were printed
there up to 2001. It's not as if we're talking about reel to reel audio for
home use.

>I hereby implore Kraig to go load up his guns, visit the CED
>talkgroups, and Lay Waste to THOSE technological misfits for awhile ;)

I agree. =) As a side note, I'm well aware if the fact that I've been a bit of
a misfit, and on occasion even a bit annoying. However, I can promise the
members of this board that it's been unintentional. And as I learn more and
more about Laserdisc and I become more invested in the format, I make a greater
effort to participate here in a friendly, productive and "un-annoying" manner.
And with the exception of Kraig, I hold no ill-will here.
Steve Grauman
 
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"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I respect that, as I respect all of you. I acknowledge and enoy the
> fact that
> you all have vast experience with the LD format and I find this board
> to be a
> great source of shared knowledge, even though I may not always act as
> such. But
> his long-standing presence here does not make his innapropriate
> behavior any
> more acceptable.

In Microsoft Outlook Express:

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>Other newsreaders may have different instructions.
>

Why am *I* being blocked now?
Steve Grauman
 
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>From: oneactor1@aol.com (Steve Grauman)

>And with the exception of Kraig, I hold no ill-will here.
>Steve Grauman

Does that include me?
Or was I just left out?
 
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oneactor1@aol.com (Steve Grauman) wrote...
> Why am *I* being blocked now?

No, I don't think Josh has killfiled you. I am quite certain that he
has killfiled Kraig, and that he was simply telling you how you can
killfile Kraig if you use Outlook as your usenet reader.

Personally, I don't killfile anyone, since I find it easy enough to
avoid reading posts from folks whom I find stupid/boring by looking at
the poster's handle/userid. I actually read most of Kraig's posts,
because he is neither stupid nor boring. I just don't feed him by
trying to debate him on any issue, since it is my experience from
reading his posts that he is ALWAYS SURE OF HIMSELF and believes that
he is RIGHT 100% OF THE TIME -- kind of like our current president --
despite plenty of credible evidence to the contrary.

-Junior
 
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"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >Other newsreaders may have different instructions.
>
> Why am *I* being blocked now?

I was offering you instructions for how to block posts that serve no
purpose other than to irritate you, not blocking you myself.
 
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>No, I don't think Josh has killfiled you. I am quite certain that he
>has killfiled Kraig, and that he was simply telling you how you can
>killfile Kraig if you use Outlook as your usenet reader.

Oh, ok. I just didn;t think Josh was that pissed at me. At least not yet.
Steve Grauman
 
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>I was offering you instructions for how to block posts that serve no
>purpose other than to irritate you, not blocking you myself.

Oh, alright. Sorry to jump the gun, I just didn't think I'd pissed you off
enough to be killfiled and was worried about what I'd done.
Steve Grauman
 
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"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >I was offering you instructions for how to block posts that serve no
>>purpose other than to irritate you, not blocking you myself.
>
> Oh, alright. Sorry to jump the gun, I just didn't think I'd pissed you
> off
> enough to be killfiled and was worried about what I'd done.

I've only ever killfiled two people in this newsgroup. I'm sure you can
figure out at least one of them.
 
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>From: watsona@kenyon.edu (unclejr)

>I find it easy enough to
>avoid reading posts from folks whom I find stupid/boring by looking at
>the poster's handle/userid.

Do you find me stupid and boring Jack?
How is the new apartment?
 
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>From: "Joshua Zyber" jzyber@SPAMMERS-BITE-ME.mindspring.com

>I've only ever killfiled two people in this newsgroup. I'm sure you can
>figure out at least one of them.

That prick matthew martin ?
 
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>I've only ever killfiled two people in this newsgroup

For the 2nd person... Schwenke?
 
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"Robert Morgan" <puredthi@cs.comfrobozz> wrote in message
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> >I've only ever killfiled two people in this newsgroup
>
> For the 2nd person... Schwenke?

*ding*ding*ding*
 
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Joshua Zyber wrote:

> "Robert Morgan" <puredthi@cs.comfrobozz> wrote in message
> news:20041024045255.21321.00002239@mb-m15.news.cs.com...
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>>>I've only ever killfiled two people in this newsgroup
>>
>>For the 2nd person... Schwenke?
>
>
> *ding*ding*ding*
>

Please don't speak his name. Mercifully, he stopped posting in February
of this year.

Matthew

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