I have tinnitus but I have good hearing???

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"play_on" <playonAT@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 03:44:02 +0100, "BJ" <nospam@thankyouverymuch.com>
> wrote:
>
> >When we're on the subject...
> >My tinnitus gets a LOT louder when I push my jaw forward.
> >Anybody know why this happens, or if this indicates a special type of
> >tinnitus?
>
> You probably have TMJ issues. In your case the ringing could probably
> disappear with the right treatment. Try to find a practitioner who
> know Sacral-Cranial work, or someone who Teaches the Feldenkrais
> Method.
>
> Al

Thanks, Al. Much appreciated. TMJ-Tinnitus definately seems to fit my
symptom(s). Will have a good look at this.
 
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On a separate but somewhat related note:

Noise cancelling headphones: I was thinking of buying a pair for airplane
travel (I travel a lot) to reduce noise intake. But if they just flip the
outside signal 180 degrees doesn't that mean you are still bombarded by
noise (just flipped)? It wouldn't help preserve your ears... just make it
more quiet, right?

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:48:39 GMT, "Nathan West" <natewest@nc.rr.com>
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>As stated there are no cures for Tinnitus, but there are a number of
>precautions you can take.
>Foods and other chemicals that stimulate your system should be avoided. That
>would include coffee, tea, alcohol, chocolate, aspirin and
>simliar things. <snip>

....as well as the usual studio candy these days...cocaine, OxyContin,
methamphetimines, grass, hash, heroin...just the usual stuff.
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On 28 Jan 2005 11:33:25 -0800, dougk@musician.org wrote:

>Check out www.t-gone.com. It seemed to help me a bit - maybe just
>placebo effect. Either way it's worth a shot. <snip>

The latter is correct. T-gone is a fraud.

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In article <41faf8e2@news.broadpark.no>,
"BJ" <nospam@thankyouverymuch.com> wrote:

> When we're on the subject...
> My tinnitus gets a LOT louder when I push my jaw forward.
> Anybody know why this happens, or if this indicates a special type of
> tinnitus?

Since no one has mentioned this before in this thread i'd just like to
add that noise adds up with time, i.e a pretty low noise level can do
harm after a heavy (noisy) day and on the same note a pretty loud hour
or so can be ok once in a while.

If i work in the orchestra during the day and sit going through takes in
the evening my ears take it bad.

Search for sound level dosis on the net to better understand the
importance of not working with sounds too many hours a day.

And, good luck!
J.
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 18:01:53 +0100, Joakim Wendel
<oviktig@bostreammail.net> wrote:

>If i work in the orchestra during the day and sit going through takes in
>the evening my ears take it bad. <snip>

Intresting aside to that....

You'd think brass players would be notoriously deaf. Not so! They're
protected, firing off that riot of harmonics forward in front of them
at a very high Q. It's the poor first violins BENEATH them that go
deaf from having the trumpets blow their brains out when the conductor
demands a fortissimo! I was watching the San Diego Symphony rehearse
one time years ago during "Le sacre du printemps." I swear I could
see the violins and violas cross their eyes during every BLAT from the
brass!

Orchestral trivia: Do you know the actual lyrics (yes, they do
exist!) to the opening few bars of that work?

It's sung, of course, by the bassoon, who sings:

"IIIIIIIIII wish I was an English horrrrrrrrn...this part is written
way too high for meeeeeeeeeeee...."

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:08:21 -0500, Sam wrote
(in article <pcvKd.9822$Yg6.1561991@news20.bellglobal.com>):

> I have tinnitus, I don't notice it unless its very quiet, like I'm lying in
> bed,
> you know the sound you get when you turn on a tv while the screen is warming
> up,
> that high pitched kind of hum, thats what i hear. It doesn't bother me but I
> don't
> like noticing it. I went to get custom molds done for earplugs and I -really-

> heard
> it when my ears were all blocked up. I went to an audiologist to get my
> hearing
> checked..

Stay away from caffeine, aspirin, acteamenophen and about 100 other otc drugs
and your tinnitus will fade. Taking Ginkyo Biloba (sp?) also helps

Regards,

Ty Ford



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An "Audiologist, MD" is a very rare bird. An Audiologist
has at least a Master's and is certified by ASHA to test and
diagnosis hearing. An Oto-Laryngologist is a MD that
specializes in hearing and speech disorders. They work as a
team. The MD to check for disease and the Audiologist to
check for hearing performance.

Note: Some hearing aid dealers are certified Audiologists,
but not most.
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> I'm sure if someone does, they have "Audiologist, MD"
after their name
> on their office door, and you should ask them.
 
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On 2005-01-29, DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net> wrote:

> ...as well as the usual studio candy these days...cocaine, OxyContin,

Say what you want to about Oxycontin, but I've been taking it for a
thoracic strain, and I must say, it's good stuff. It's weird, becauase
you still "feel" the pain, but it doesn't register as "hurts". That's
important because it stops you from doing things that might exacerbate
the injury, since you still feel it, as opposed to just numbing it,
which could lead to overconfidence and re-injury. I never knew it
worked that way until I started taking it. Now, I don't know why
someone would take this stuff recreationally, definitely not my cup of
tea. But my pain was in the 7.5-8 range on a logarithmic 0-10 scale,
where a 9 would be a 3rd degree burn and a 10 would hopefully have me
unconscious. I could maybe sleep if I remained motionless and had a
blue ice block on my shoulder.

This is not a good injury for a piano player to get. Oxycontin has
saved my life.
 
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On 2005-01-30, Chip Wood <chip.wood@motorola.com> wrote:

> An "Audiologist, MD" is a very rare bird.

I didn't realize that, but my point was, this is not the sort
of question you should pose to anonymous dillettantes on USENET,
but to a licensed professional...
 
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>I have no ability to force a yawn..

Hmmm..I can pretty much yawn at will...how about anyone else?


John A. Chiara
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Live Sound Inc.
Albany, NY
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In article <41faf8e2@news.broadpark.no>, "BJ" <nospam@thankyouverymuch.com>
wrote:

> When we're on the subject...
> My tinnitus gets a LOT louder when I push my jaw forward.
> Anybody know why this happens, or if this indicates a special type of
> tinnitus?
>
>
>

You're hearing jaw muscles contract.

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"Blind Joni" <blindjoni@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >I have no ability to force a yawn..
>
> Hmmm..I can pretty much yawn at will...how about anyone else?
>
>
> John A. Chiara
> SOS Recording Studio
> Live Sound Inc.
> Albany, NY
> www.sosrecording.net
> 518-449-1637

I can urinate at will but that's about it...
 

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"Jay Kadis" <jay@ccrma.stanford.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <41faf8e2@news.broadpark.no>, "BJ"
<nospam@thankyouverymuch.com>
> wrote:
>
> > When we're on the subject...
> > My tinnitus gets a LOT louder when I push my jaw forward.
> > Anybody know why this happens, or if this indicates a special type of
> > tinnitus?
> >
> >
> >
>
> You're hearing jaw muscles contract.

I didn't know that sounded like tinnitus tripling in amplitude.
 
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In article <41fe9221@news.broadpark.no>, "BJ" <nospam@thankyouverymuch.com>
wrote:

> "Jay Kadis" <jay@ccrma.stanford.edu> wrote in message
> news:jay-30CC13.08422131012005@news.stanford.edu...
> > In article <41faf8e2@news.broadpark.no>, "BJ"
> <nospam@thankyouverymuch.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > When we're on the subject...
> > > My tinnitus gets a LOT louder when I push my jaw forward.
> > > Anybody know why this happens, or if this indicates a special type of
> > > tinnitus?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > You're hearing jaw muscles contract.
>
> I didn't know that sounded like tinnitus tripling in amplitude.
>
>

Try it.

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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 13:09:11 -0800, Jay Kadis <jay@ccrma.stanford.edu>
wrote:

>In article <41fe9221@news.broadpark.no>, "BJ" <nospam@thankyouverymuch.com>
>wrote:
>
>> "Jay Kadis" <jay@ccrma.stanford.edu> wrote in message
>> news:jay-30CC13.08422131012005@news.stanford.edu...
>> > In article <41faf8e2@news.broadpark.no>, "BJ"
>> <nospam@thankyouverymuch.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > When we're on the subject...
>> > > My tinnitus gets a LOT louder when I push my jaw forward.
>> > > Anybody know why this happens, or if this indicates a special type of
>> > > tinnitus?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > You're hearing jaw muscles contract.
>>
>> I didn't know that sounded like tinnitus tripling in amplitude.
>>
>>
>
>Try it.

Doesn't work for me...

Al
 
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In article <d3ktv0dbvirgh4f2l4o8rd9su663pej5te@4ax.com>,
play_on <playonAT@comcast.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 13:09:11 -0800, Jay Kadis <jay@ccrma.stanford.edu>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <41fe9221@news.broadpark.no>, "BJ" <nospam@thankyouverymuch.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> "Jay Kadis" <jay@ccrma.stanford.edu> wrote in message
> >> news:jay-30CC13.08422131012005@news.stanford.edu...
> >> > In article <41faf8e2@news.broadpark.no>, "BJ"
> >> <nospam@thankyouverymuch.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > When we're on the subject...
> >> > > My tinnitus gets a LOT louder when I push my jaw forward.
> >> > > Anybody know why this happens, or if this indicates a special type of
> >> > > tinnitus?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > You're hearing jaw muscles contract.
> >>
> >> I didn't know that sounded like tinnitus tripling in amplitude.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Try it.
>
> Doesn't work for me...
>
> Al

You can't hear a sound if you tightly contracting your neck/jaw muscles? I
definitely get a high-frequency sound, something 6-10 kHz I'd say.

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In article <jay-FF89E2.08280101022005@news.stanford.edu>,
Jay Kadis <jay@ccrma.stanford.edu> wrote:

> In article <d3ktv0dbvirgh4f2l4o8rd9su663pej5te@4ax.com>,
> play_on <playonAT@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 13:09:11 -0800, Jay Kadis <jay@ccrma.stanford.edu>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >In article <41fe9221@news.broadpark.no>, "BJ"
> > ><nospam@thankyouverymuch.com>
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> "Jay Kadis" <jay@ccrma.stanford.edu> wrote in message
> > >> news:jay-30CC13.08422131012005@news.stanford.edu...
> > >> > In article <41faf8e2@news.broadpark.no>, "BJ"
> > >> <nospam@thankyouverymuch.com>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > When we're on the subject...
> > >> > > My tinnitus gets a LOT louder when I push my jaw forward.
> > >> > > Anybody know why this happens, or if this indicates a special type
> > >> > > of
> > >> > > tinnitus?
> > >> > You're hearing jaw muscles contract.
> > >> I didn't know that sounded like tinnitus tripling in amplitude.
> > >>
> > >Try it.
> >
> > Doesn't work for me...
> >
> > Al
>
> You can't hear a sound if you tightly contracting your neck/jaw muscles? I
> definitely get a high-frequency sound, something 6-10 kHz I'd say.
>
> -Jay

I get this noise too if i do the forward jaw push (pretty extreme)
however how tinnitus sounds is very personal ... So you can't state it
sounds like tinnitus, it's just a (in my ears) noise with no low freq.
Useless exersice?

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"Jay Kadis" <jay@ccrma.stanford.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <41fe9221@news.broadpark.no>, "BJ"
<nospam@thankyouverymuch.com>
> wrote:
>
> > "Jay Kadis" <jay@ccrma.stanford.edu> wrote in message
> > news:jay-30CC13.08422131012005@news.stanford.edu...
> > > In article <41faf8e2@news.broadpark.no>, "BJ"
> > <nospam@thankyouverymuch.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > When we're on the subject...
> > > > My tinnitus gets a LOT louder when I push my jaw forward.
> > > > Anybody know why this happens, or if this indicates a special type
of
> > > > tinnitus?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > You're hearing jaw muscles contract.
> >
> > I didn't know that sounded like tinnitus tripling in amplitude.
> >
> >
>
> Try it.

Well, the sound doesn't change. What's there only becomes louder. I can only
hope I have TMJ tinnitus, which seems to be one of few types of tinnitus
that can be treated. I'll have to see a specialist obviously.
 
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 03:44:02 +0100, "BJ" <nospam@thankyouverymuch.com>
wrote:

>When we're on the subject...
>My tinnitus gets a LOT louder when I push my jaw forward.
>Anybody know why this happens, or if this indicates a special type of
>tinnitus?

We all hear a little body noise if we listen hard in quiet
surroundings. And we can all induce that "rushing" sound in the ears
by tensing the face in a certain way. Are you sure you're chasing a
real problem?

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