I have tinnitus but I have good hearing???

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"Laurence Payne"
> And we can all induce that "rushing" sound in the ears
> by tensing the face in a certain way.

A condition commonly known as *Gas*.

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"Laurence Payne" <l@laurenceDELETEpayne.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 03:44:02 +0100, "BJ" <nospam@thankyouverymuch.com>
> wrote:
>
> >When we're on the subject...
> >My tinnitus gets a LOT louder when I push my jaw forward.
> >Anybody know why this happens, or if this indicates a special type of
> >tinnitus?
>
> We all hear a little body noise if we listen hard in quiet
> surroundings. And we can all induce that "rushing" sound in the ears
> by tensing the face in a certain way. Are you sure you're chasing a
> real problem?

I've had tinnitus for about 6 years now. That's very real. It got worse a
couple of months ago. Much worse. I just happened to notice that it becomes
a helluva lot louder when I press my jaw forward. Hard.

Modulation of tinnitus by voluntary jaw movements.

Pinchoff RJ, Burkard RF, Salvi RJ, Coad ML, Lockwood AH.

Cornell University College of Human Ecology, New York, USA.

OBJECTIVE: The authors describe symptoms and population characteristics in
patients with tinnitus who report the ability to control the loudness of
their tinnitus by performing voluntary movements. DESIGN: The authors used a
questionnaire. SETTING: The study was conducted at a tertiary care center.
PATIENTS: Respondents have the self-reported ability to control the loudness
of their tinnitus by performing voluntary movements. RESULTS: The authors
describe symptoms and population characteristics in 93 patients with
tinnitus (83% men, 17% women) who report the ability to control the loudness
of their tinnitus by performing voluntary movements: 85% of these report jaw
movements and 9% report eye movements affect their tinnitus. In the
jaw-movement group, tinnitus loudness increased in 90%. Jaw movement
affected the pitch in 51% with an increase in pitch reported by 90%. Other
maneuvers, such as pressure applied to the head, affected tinnitus in many
subjects. Tinnitus had a major impact on the lives of the authors'
respondents: 27% registered mild to moderate depression and 8% moderate to
severe depression as shown by the Beck Depression Inventory. CONCLUSIONS:
The ability to modulate tinnitus by performing voluntary somatosensory or
motor acts is likely the result of plastic changes in the brains of these
patients with the development of aberrant connections between the auditory
and sensory-motor systems. The strong predominance of men in the sample
suggests the presence of a gender-specific factor that mediates these
changes.
 
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On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 03:43:26 +0100, "BJ" <nospam@thankyouverymuch.com>
wrote:

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>"Laurence Payne" <l@laurenceDELETEpayne.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:via101d5mna40pgu211npc5j9026c7vsdg@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 03:44:02 +0100, "BJ" <nospam@thankyouverymuch.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >When we're on the subject...
>> >My tinnitus gets a LOT louder when I push my jaw forward.
>> >Anybody know why this happens, or if this indicates a special type of
>> >tinnitus?
>>
>> We all hear a little body noise if we listen hard in quiet
>> surroundings. And we can all induce that "rushing" sound in the ears
>> by tensing the face in a certain way. Are you sure you're chasing a
>> real problem?
>
>I've had tinnitus for about 6 years now. That's very real. It got worse a
>couple of months ago. Much worse. I just happened to notice that it becomes
>a helluva lot louder when I press my jaw forward. Hard.
>
>Modulation of tinnitus by voluntary jaw movements.
>
>Pinchoff RJ, Burkard RF, Salvi RJ, Coad ML, Lockwood AH.
>
>Cornell University College of Human Ecology, New York, USA.
>
>OBJECTIVE: The authors describe symptoms and population characteristics in
>patients with tinnitus who report the ability to control the loudness of
>their tinnitus by performing voluntary movements. DESIGN: The authors used a
>questionnaire. SETTING: The study was conducted at a tertiary care center.
>PATIENTS: Respondents have the self-reported ability to control the loudness
>of their tinnitus by performing voluntary movements. RESULTS: The authors
>describe symptoms and population characteristics in 93 patients with
>tinnitus (83% men, 17% women) who report the ability to control the loudness
>of their tinnitus by performing voluntary movements: 85% of these report jaw
>movements and 9% report eye movements affect their tinnitus. In the
>jaw-movement group, tinnitus loudness increased in 90%. Jaw movement
>affected the pitch in 51% with an increase in pitch reported by 90%. Other
>maneuvers, such as pressure applied to the head, affected tinnitus in many
>subjects. Tinnitus had a major impact on the lives of the authors'
>respondents: 27% registered mild to moderate depression and 8% moderate to
>severe depression as shown by the Beck Depression Inventory. CONCLUSIONS:
>The ability to modulate tinnitus by performing voluntary somatosensory or
>motor acts is likely the result of plastic changes in the brains of these
>patients with the development of aberrant connections between the auditory
>and sensory-motor systems. The strong predominance of men in the sample
>suggests the presence of a gender-specific factor that mediates these
>changes.

If your TMJ movement and alignment have a large effect on the
tinnitus, you might try working with a practitioner of the Alexander
technique (http://ergonomics.org/articles/atoverview/)
or the Feldenkrais method: http://www.feldenkrais.com/ I did some
intensive Feldenkrais training about ten years ago and my tinnitus
stopped. Lately I haven't been keeping up with that work, I've
returned to playing live gigs more often, and the ringing is back.

http://ergonomics.org/articles/atoverview/

Al
 
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On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 03:43:26 +0100, "BJ" <nospam@thankyouverymuch.com>
wrote:

>> We all hear a little body noise if we listen hard in quiet
>> surroundings. And we can all induce that "rushing" sound in the ears
>> by tensing the face in a certain way. Are you sure you're chasing a
>> real problem?
>
>I've had tinnitus for about 6 years now. That's very real. It got worse a
>couple of months ago. Much worse. I just happened to notice that it becomes
>a helluva lot louder when I press my jaw forward. Hard.


OK. But all Sam reports is:

"I have tinnitus, I don't notice it unless its very quiet, like I'm
lying in bed,...."


We ALL have that much tinnitus.

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Laurence Payne wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 03:43:26 +0100, "BJ" <nospam@thankyouverymuch.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> We all hear a little body noise if we listen hard in quiet
>>> surroundings. And we can all induce that "rushing" sound in the
>>> ears by tensing the face in a certain way. Are you sure you're
>>> chasing a real problem?
>>
>> I've had tinnitus for about 6 years now. That's very real. It got
>> worse a couple of months ago. Much worse. I just happened to notice
>> that it becomes a helluva lot louder when I press my jaw forward.
>> Hard.
>
>
> OK. But all Sam reports is:
>
> "I have tinnitus, I don't notice it unless its very quiet, like I'm
> lying in bed,...."
>
>
> We ALL have that much tinnitus.

I remember going caving as a kid, and marveling at the SILENCE when one got
far enough back to cut off all environmental sounds.

Alas, after shooting a cheap pistol while in grade school, I've never
experienced that degree of silence again.

<sigh>

jak

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> CubaseFAQ www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm
> "Possibly the world's least impressive web site": George Perfect
 
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On 31 Jan 2005 05:40:29 GMT, blindjoni@aol.com (Blind Joni) wrote:

>>I have no ability to force a yawn..
>
>Hmmm..I can pretty mvch yawn at will...how abovt anyone else? <snip>

Well, Bvshie's "state of the vnion" address forced a yawn from
me...several, actvally.

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On Svn, 06 Feb 2005 09:31:15 -0800, DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
wrote:

>On 31 Jan 2005 05:40:29 GMT, blindjoni@aol.com (Blind Joni) wrote:
>
>>>I have no ability to force a yawn..
>>
>>Hmmm..I can pretty mvch yawn at will...how abovt anyone else? <snip>
>
>Well, Bvshie's "state of the vnion" address forced a yawn from
>me...several, actvally.

Yov're lvcky, they vsvally jvst raise my blood pressvre.

Al