Is gt650m better than hd 7670 m for gaming laptop?

[krishnakhatri]

is gt650m better than hd 7670 m for gaming laptop?

 

[krishnakhatri]

hell guys why are u arguing?i just need to figure out which is a better brand of laptop and what config is necessary for high or mid setting gaming????

 

[blazorthon]

hell guys why are u arguing?i just need to figure out which is a better brand of laptop and what config is necessary for high or mid setting gaming????

No one was arguing and what went on is clear if you read the posts. We've already said what brands we think are the best. Unless you give us a budget, we can't recommend specific laptops to you.

 

[krishnakhatri]

mine budget is around 1200$ so please make it simple for me

 

[blazorthon]

Is that $1200 USD?

Also, I just looked at your profile and looked up "biratnagar"... Asia? If that's where you live, can you give links to online stores that you can buy from? I can recommend laptops, but I don't know if you'd actually be able to afford them because I don't know how your listed location affects cost compared to the USA's prices.

 

[blazorthon]

wat is iirc????

I think that it's an acronym that stand for "If I Recall Correctly".

 

[krishnakhatri]

yeah blazorthon bro thats rite im from nepal a country that is least developed in electronics items,electronics items such as laptops and its parts are hard to find and if you find them hardly it will cost u around double the rate that is mentioned in the website.....and concerning the price and affording a laptop,i m looking from flipkart.com,the site provides free shipping across indian states and as my brother studies their there is no issue in getting them shipped

 

[blazorthon]

What do you think of this laptop:
http/www.flipkart.com/samsung-np355v5c-s03in-laptop-apu-quad-core-a8-6gb-750gb-win7-hp-1gb-graph/p/itmdc8cnmwhqrryf?pid=COMDC8CNH3BVH95Z&ref=8d24b43b-9e7a-48ab-9ead-f7dc94a0d833

7670 plus an A8-4500, it doesn't get much better than that. The GTX 650M would have similar performance, but the only laptop with that card from your linked website is almost twice as expensive, granted it does have an i7 CPU to justify the much higher cost as it's much faster than the AMD APU's CPU performance. The more expensive i7 laptop that I looked at is this model:

http/www.flipkart.com/dell-new-inspiron-17r-se-laptop-3rd-gen-ci5-4gb-1tb-win7-hp-2gb-graph/p/itmdas5ynfkfn6za?pid=COMDAS5HFR2DYYGJ&ref=c221dea5-0aa3-4869-8902-38d8c6dd6d9c

The i7 laptop is around the top of your budget according to my currency calculator and the AMD laptop with similar graphics performance but inferior CPU performance is a little more than half of your budget according to the same calculator.

 

[krishnakhatri]

well i think my budget is around 52000 indian currency so how about i get this one please have a look,please mate help me with laptops as i ve never had one before,now i am looking to get one that worths every single penny of my money:
http/www.flipkart.com/samsung-np550p5c-s01
please help me if its a gaming system or does it sucks u can have a view at some more from flipkart.com and repost it after thinking whats right for my budget?
thanks buddy

 

[krishnakhatri]

or wil this one be better for me?????
http/www.flipkart.com/hp-envy-6-1002tx-sleekbook

 

[blazorthon]

It won't let me see your links. Are they broken?

My first link is around 37600 Indian currency, so it should be well within the budget and provide the performance that you want.

 

[krishnakhatri]

ok here are the links:
http/www.flipkart.com/search/a/computers?query=hp+envy+6-1002tx+sleekbook+3rd+gen+ci5%2F4gb%2F500gb%2F2gb+graphics%2Fwin+7hb&vertical=Computers&dd=0&autosuggest%5Bas%5D=on&autosuggest%5Bas-submittype%5D=entered&autosuggest%5Bas-grouprank%5D=0&autosuggest%5Bas-overallrank%5D=4&_r=XgWi0tRAPHnS8kfHJsHklA--&_l=NufkO%2BNN0zZCOnWd7hg6Rg--&ref=d364f6d9-1abc-43f8-a29f-5cc57ecbae4f&selmitem=

http/www.flipkart.com/samsung-np550p5c-s01in-laptop-3rd-gen-ci5-6gb-1tb-win7-hp-2gb-graph/p/itmdbe8fyjwuxwyj?pid=COMDBE7GDASZWKFR&ref=df855ecb-ae35-4ec4-8b21-08a9e2bd26d5

 

[krishnakhatri]

so they are well within my range and i need to get the best

 

[blazorthon]

The HP has an Intel CPU and a Radeon 7670M, so it is weaker than the Samsung laptop for gaming because the Samsung has the GT 650M. The laptops with a Radeon 7670M only have similar graphics performance when their CPU is an AMD A6 or A8 APU. The A6 and A8 APUs have decent GPUs built into them that can work with the Radeon 7670M to make a dual-GPU array that has similar graphics performance to the GT 650M.

The AMD laptop's performance per core on the CPU is a little low for modern gaming and many games might have problems with it. It offers similar graphics performance to the Intel laptop, but the CPU is weaker.

If you want to save money, then there are some tricks that you can do to really help the AMD's laptop's CPU performance, but no offense, you don't seem like the sort who likes dealing with advanced settings. The Intel laptop is the better way to go if you're willing to spend the extra money.

 

[krishnakhatri]

please teach me those tricks i wanna be adie hard gamer....and wanna get the value of every single penny i pay....help me figure out

 

[blazorthon]

If you insist. There is a program called PS Check from AMD. It can be used to alter the P states of the CPU (power/frequency states). You could use it to cut down the second core of each module (four cores of a CPU are organized like this: Core 0, Core 1, Core 2, Core 3; You'd be cutting down Core 1 and Core 3's P states) and boost the first core significantly. It probably wouldn't be able to quite match the mobile Intel i3/i5 CPUs, but it would be plenty powerful enough for some decent gaming. This would give it a good boost in games except BF 3 MP. If the laptop also has BIOS control of settings such as the BLCK and the memory frequency (unlikely, but possible), then you could do a little more with some minor overclocking.

However, like I said, this is advanced. If you're sure that you want to do it, then you know what laptop to buy and you now know what you'd need to do to work with it properly. If you need help on using the program, then there are probably some online tutorials that you could follow and/or you could come back to the Tom's forums for more help.

 

[krishnakhatri]

ok can u give me those links for online tutorials?????

 

[blazorthon]

Well, I've looked and looked, but I haven't found any, my bad. I'll send a PM to someone who I've talked to and supposedly did this with his/her own laptop that has a similar Trinity APU.

 

[palladin9479]

http/www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?276190-AMD-PSCHECK-for-Bulldozer-UPDATE-NEWER-VERSION-amp-INSTRUCTION-HOW-TO-USE-IT

That's PS Check and a quick guide on how to use it.

It's the program LN2 overclockers use to tweak their CPU's for maximum speed, it gives you a very large amount of control over your CPU's clock and voltage.

Modern CPU's actually have multiple clock / voltage settings, what's in the BIOS is just the default / maximum setting. If the CPU has an unlocked multiplier then you can not only set the maximum but also all the settings from the lowest (800Mhz) to the highest. A CPU's highest clock is often determined by it's temperature output (TDP), by underclocking unused cores you cause them to use less power / heat which free's up more power / heat for the core you do want to overclock. This is especially true for laptops which tend to have really bad thermal solutions, OEM's are cheap.

For the 7670 vs 650, it's a big game of "it depends". With generic DDR3 memory their both pretty much the same as their memory bandwidth starved. With GDDR5 the 650 pulls ahead by a good margin. Seeing as we're on a budget it might be a bit hard to find a good notebook with GDDR5 for it's GPU.

I used to be a big fan of the HP DV6/7z series but lately they've been making their notebooks without an internal dGPU and your stuck only using the iGPU. Of course their DV6/7t line (Intel CPUs) have dGPU's with them, so kinda puts me off that they would do that.

 

[TheMrPatrick]

But does the HD7670 1GB version have equal performance to the GT650M 2GB GDDR3 version? Because I am looking at 2 laptops now, both have a i7 3610QM.

 

[blazorthon]

Differences in capacity beyond 1GB will not make a difference for these cards. 2GB isn't better than 1GB unless you go for a much faster card.

I missed where the GT 650 M in your laptop is only DDR3. The AMD laptop has better graphics performance than the GT 650M DDR3 in that Intel laptop has.