Is gt650m better than hd 7670 m for gaming laptop?

[krishnakhatri]

is gt650m better than hd 7670 m for gaming laptop?

 

[krishnakhatri]

if im going for a gaming laptop under 1000$-1100$ what would be the best choice??either the class 1 ddr3 gpu or the class 2 gddr5 gpu????

 

[Real_GM]

if im going for a gaming laptop under 1000$-1100$ what would be the best choice??either the class 1 ddr3 gpu or the class 2 gddr5 gpu????

If you are going for that price range, you can probably get a 3610QM + GTX 660M 2GB DDR5 with a 1080p screen from lenovo (Y580). When its on sales its 949 CAD.

http/shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/webca/LenovoPortal/en_CA/catalog.workflow:category.details?current-catalog-id=12F0696583E04D86B9B79B0FEC01C087&current-category-id=FD2E87DA2C36F27C12CC7CD3494BC0ED&action=init

http/www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834246630

 

[Real_GM]

The 7670M plus a good APU is not weaker than the GT 650M.

I agree. I have a AMD A10 7660G + 7670M Dual Graphics. I can run diablo at High with 70 fps and 40 to 50 when in battles.

 

[arabcian]

The problem is probably that you have a weak CPU. Try using PSCheck as stated above to increase one core's performance while decreasing the other core's performance to see if it helps. The A8s and A10s are a lot better than the Trinity A6s. Dual Graphics does work when it is set up properly and the CPU isn't too weak.

No im a comp. tech i like to squeeze my comp. im overclocking it to 2.53 ghz 4 cores and boost 3.1ghz 1-2 core getting 5800 geekmarks and 3600 passmark score so its not very weak

 

[arabcian]

so u guys mean that hd 7670m is weaker in every possible manner than a gt 650m???????

i guess blazor is an amd labor get the 650m if you dont like to mess up just get that lenovo y580 if you can afford it is the best comp u can get for 900 if not go for 650m trust me

 

[arabcian]

im just saying that i have an AMD hybrid crossfire able machine and i just say you get the 650M

 

[krishnakhatri]

can any post the link of an indian site that sells lenovo y580 online?????

 

[arabcian]

The laptop with GT 650M that has GDDR5 memory is out of OP's budget and a DDR3 model isn't any better than a Radeon 7670M with DDR3 and no Dual-Graphics and is inferior to the Dual-graphics solution as described earlier. Within OP's budget, the Trinity option is the best from that store. Also, as was said earlier, optimizing the core configuration with PSCheck solves the CPU issue excellently.

you dont know know what you are talking about llano a6s and a8s have their multiplier locked and mhz to mhz have better performance than trinity processors

and gt650m ddr3 version is working 150mhz faster on the gpu than ddr5 version and there is not much performance difference between them you must try to take a look hardware benchmarks before you talk and misinformate others
you are talking just with your logic

lets compare two cards
7670m ddr3 is basically 6650m 480 5d shaders at working 600mhz mean 96 1d shaders 40nm manufacture
a10 4600m has 384 wliv4 shaders mean 4d and it exactly means 96 1d shaders at 600+ mhz crossfire them you will lose some performance
because there is no %100 scaling and cpu and internal gpu gonna share memory bus so it is going to be bottleneck add bugs and under 30 fps there is microstutters that make 30 fps like 10 fps

so lets come gt650m ddr3

gt650m ddr3 it has 384 1d shaders working at 930mhz 2 times of shaders and 1.50 times of frequency of the a10 7670m combo add it to single thread performance of the core i series and you have nearly double the performance of the a10 and 7670m combo now im sure that youre working for amd or something or just illicit or just a fanboy that have horse goggles to accept that amd is just a joke on the performance category

sorry about the bad english

if you have choice get intel and gt650m i guarantee youll get 2x performance of the amd system
and blazor go notebookcheck and look for benchmarks before talking something about you know nothing

 

[luciferano]

you dont know know what you are talking about llano a6s and a8s have their multiplier locked and mhz to mhz have better performance than trinity processors

and gt650m ddr3 version is working 150mhz faster on the gpu than ddr5 version and there is not much performance difference between them you must try to take a look hardware benchmarks before you talk and misinformate others
you are talking just with your logic

lets compare two cards
7670m ddr3 is basically 6650m 480 5d shaders at working 600mhz mean 96 1d shaders 40nm manufacture
a10 4600m has 384 wliv4 shaders mean 4d and it exactly means 96 1d shaders at 600+ mhz crossfire them you will lose some performance
because there is no %100 scaling and cpu and internal gpu gonna share memory bus so it is going to be bottleneck add bugs and under 30 fps there is microstutters that make 30 fps like 10 fps

so lets come gt650m ddr3

gt650m ddr3 it has 384 1d shaders working at 930mhz 2 times of shaders and 1.50 times of frequency of the a10 7670m combo add it to single thread performance of the core i series and you have nearly double the performance of the a10 and 7670m combo now im sure that youre working for amd or something or just illicit or just a fanboy that have horse goggles to accept that amd is just a joke on the performance category

sorry about the bad english

if you have choice get intel and gt650m i guarantee youll get 2x performance of the amd system
and blazor go notebookcheck and look for benchmarks before talking something about you know nothing

Multipliers are irrelevant because P states are unlocked on all AMD CPUs. The P state method has both PS Check and K10Stat that can be used and they both work on all AMD CPUs since at least the Athlon 64 era.

You also don't know what memory bandwidth is fro mthe looks of your post. DDR3 memroy is a limiting factor for the 7670M, so that the GT 650M can have a stronger GPU is nothing in the face of not having enough memory bandwidth to stretch out.

Micro-stutter is not a constant, most systems don't have it bad and even then, most people don't see it.

Furthermore, you forget that not all mobile cards have the same frequency or even the same core count or even the same micro-architecture despite the same model name. You don't know what you're talking about, so stop making incorrect claims.

 

[omerta777]

Krishna, ke cha?

www.harilo.com they ship stuff from U.S sites straight to nepal, you can get a quote for how much it'll be, they're pretty reasonable.

www.gaminglaptopsjunky.com good laptop deals.

 

[arabcian]

you dont know know what you are talking about llano a6s and a8s have their multiplier locked and mhz to mhz have better performance than trinity processors

and gt650m ddr3 version is working 150mhz faster on the gpu than ddr5 version and there is not much performance difference between them you must try to take a look hardware benchmarks before you talk and misinformate others
you are talking just with your logic

lets compare two cards
7670m ddr3 is basically 6650m 480 5d shaders at working 600mhz mean 96 1d shaders 40nm manufacture
a10 4600m has 384 wliv4 shaders mean 4d and it exactly means 96 1d shaders at 600+ mhz crossfire them you will lose some performance
because there is no %100 scaling and cpu and internal gpu gonna share memory bus so it is going to be bottleneck add bugs and under 30 fps there is microstutters that make 30 fps like 10 fps

so lets come gt650m ddr3

gt650m ddr3 it has 384 1d shaders working at 930mhz 2 times of shaders and 1.50 times of frequency of the a10 7670m combo add it to single thread performance of the core i series and you have nearly double the performance of the a10 and 7670m combo now im sure that youre working for amd or something or just illicit or just a fanboy that have horse goggles to accept that amd is just a joke on the performance category

sorry about the bad english

if you have choice get intel and gt650m i guarantee youll get 2x performance of the amd system
and blazor go notebookcheck and look for benchmarks before talking something about you know nothing

Multipliers are irrelevant because P states are unlocked on all AMD CPUs. The P state method has both PS Check and K10Stat that can be used and they both work on all AMD CPUs since at least the Athlon 64 era.

You also don't know what memory bandwidth is fro mthe looks of your post. DDR3 memroy is a limiting factor for the 7670M, so that the GT 650M can have a stronger GPU is nothing in the face of not having enough memory bandwidth to stretch out.

Micro-stutter is not a constant, most systems don't have it bad and even then, most people don't see it.

Furthermore, you forget that not all mobile cards have the same frequency or even the same core count or even the same micro-architecture despite the same model name. You don't know what you're talking about, so stop making incorrect claims.

the stupid about it is i got both hardware i used it llano cpus have multipliers unlocked trinity are locked thats first a 28nm card vs 40 nm card 40 will always use more power and generate more heat than 28nm counterpart i have both hardware and microstutters always happen with dual gpu solutions there is no sli setup without microstutterring and that a10 4600m aand 7670m combo almost gives %50 performance of i5 650m combo please dont make me link notebookcheck go and tajke a look before talking and please am i a idiot magnet where alt hose people coming from go take a look at scientific benchmarks and talk after

 

[blazorthon]

you dont know know what you are talking about llano a6s and a8s have their multiplier locked and mhz to mhz have better performance than trinity processors

and gt650m ddr3 version is working 150mhz faster on the gpu than ddr5 version and there is not much performance difference between them you must try to take a look hardware benchmarks before you talk and misinformate others
you are talking just with your logic

lets compare two cards
7670m ddr3 is basically 6650m 480 5d shaders at working 600mhz mean 96 1d shaders 40nm manufacture
a10 4600m has 384 wliv4 shaders mean 4d and it exactly means 96 1d shaders at 600+ mhz crossfire them you will lose some performance
because there is no %100 scaling and cpu and internal gpu gonna share memory bus so it is going to be bottleneck add bugs and under 30 fps there is microstutters that make 30 fps like 10 fps

so lets come gt650m ddr3

gt650m ddr3 it has 384 1d shaders working at 930mhz 2 times of shaders and 1.50 times of frequency of the a10 7670m combo add it to single thread performance of the core i series and you have nearly double the performance of the a10 and 7670m combo now im sure that youre working for amd or something or just illicit or just a fanboy that have horse goggles to accept that amd is just a joke on the performance category

sorry about the bad english

if you have choice get intel and gt650m i guarantee youll get 2x performance of the amd system
and blazor go notebookcheck and look for benchmarks before talking something about you know nothing

Multipliers are irrelevant because P states are unlocked on all AMD CPUs. The P state method has both PS Check and K10Stat that can be used and they both work on all AMD CPUs since at least the Athlon 64 era.

You also don't know what memory bandwidth is fro mthe looks of your post. DDR3 memroy is a limiting factor for the 7670M, so that the GT 650M can have a stronger GPU is nothing in the face of not having enough memory bandwidth to stretch out.

Micro-stutter is not a constant, most systems don't have it bad and even then, most people don't see it.

Furthermore, you forget that not all mobile cards have the same frequency or even the same core count or even the same micro-architecture despite the same model name. You don't know what you're talking about, so stop making incorrect claims.

the stupid about it is i got both hardware i used it llano cpus have multipliers unlocked trinity are locked thats first a 28nm card vs 40 nm card 40 will always use more power and generate more heat than 28nm counterpart i have both hardware and microstutters always happen with dual gpu solutions there is no sli setup without microstutterring and that a10 4600m aand 7670m combo almost gives %50 performance of i5 650m combo please dont make me link notebookcheck go and tajke a look before talking and please am i a idiot magnet where alt hose people coming from go take a look at scientific benchmarks and talk after

Multpliers don't matter with this because the P states are unlocked for AMD. You don't need to touch multipliers at all, so whether or nto they are unlocked truly is irrelevant. Luci was right.

The cards are not 28nm versus 40nm or whatever, that pertains to the GPUs on the cards. Since the 7670M is a lower end card and is in crossfire with the APU which is not 40nm either, it's possible that it wouldn't consume more power, especially with the APU. I don't care to look up a conclusive yes or no on this since they'd be too close for it to matter anyway.

Micro-stutter does not always happen, at least not to a perceptible level.

Noitebookcheck has a huge number of errors.

I'm not trying to make you look like an idiot or such, but you are mistaken in most of what you said.

 

[whyso]

you dont know know what you are talking about llano a6s and a8s have their multiplier locked and mhz to mhz have better performance than trinity processors

and gt650m ddr3 version is working 150mhz faster on the gpu than ddr5 version and there is not much performance difference between them you must try to take a look hardware benchmarks before you talk and misinformate others
you are talking just with your logic

lets compare two cards
7670m ddr3 is basically 6650m 480 5d shaders at working 600mhz mean 96 1d shaders 40nm manufacture
a10 4600m has 384 wliv4 shaders mean 4d and it exactly means 96 1d shaders at 600+ mhz crossfire them you will lose some performance
because there is no %100 scaling and cpu and internal gpu gonna share memory bus so it is going to be bottleneck add bugs and under 30 fps there is microstutters that make 30 fps like 10 fps

so lets come gt650m ddr3

gt650m ddr3 it has 384 1d shaders working at 930mhz 2 times of shaders and 1.50 times of frequency of the a10 7670m combo add it to single thread performance of the core i series and you have nearly double the performance of the a10 and 7670m combo now im sure that youre working for amd or something or just illicit or just a fanboy that have horse goggles to accept that amd is just a joke on the performance category

sorry about the bad english

if you have choice get intel and gt650m i guarantee youll get 2x performance of the amd system
and blazor go notebookcheck and look for benchmarks before talking something about you know nothing

Multipliers are irrelevant because P states are unlocked on all AMD CPUs. The P state method has both PS Check and K10Stat that can be used and they both work on all AMD CPUs since at least the Athlon 64 era.

You also don't know what memory bandwidth is fro mthe looks of your post. DDR3 memroy is a limiting factor for the 7670M, so that the GT 650M can have a stronger GPU is nothing in the face of not having enough memory bandwidth to stretch out.

Micro-stutter is not a constant, most systems don't have it bad and even then, most people don't see it.

Furthermore, you forget that not all mobile cards have the same frequency or even the same core count or even the same micro-architecture despite the same model name. You don't know what you're talking about, so stop making incorrect claims.

the stupid about it is i got both hardware i used it llano cpus have multipliers unlocked trinity are locked thats first a 28nm card vs 40 nm card 40 will always use more power and generate more heat than 28nm counterpart i have both hardware and microstutters always happen with dual gpu solutions there is no sli setup without microstutterring and that a10 4600m aand 7670m combo almost gives %50 performance of i5 650m combo please dont make me link notebookcheck go and tajke a look before talking and please am i a idiot magnet where alt hose people coming from go take a look at scientific benchmarks and talk after

Multpliers don't matter with this because the P states are unlocked for AMD. You don't need to touch multipliers at all, so whether or nto they are unlocked truly is irrelevant. Luci was right.

The cards are not 28nm versus 40nm or whatever, that pertains to the GPUs on the cards. Since the 7670M is a lower end card and is in crossfire with the APU which is not 40nm either, it's possible that it wouldn't consume more power, especially with the APU. I don't care to look up a conclusive yes or no on this since they'd be too close for it to matter anyway.

Micro-stutter does not always happen, at least not to a perceptible level.

Noitebookcheck has a huge number of errors.

I'm not trying to make you look like an idiot or such, but you are mistaken in most of what you said.

650m> that hybrid crossfire a10+ 7670m.

http/www.notebookcheck.net/Review-HP-Pavilion-m6-1050sg-Notebook.83080.0.html

http/www.notebookcheck.net/Review-HP-Pavilion-g6-2253sg-Notebook.89647.0.html

generally worse than 640m.