Jobs: Blu-ray Will Be Beaten By Downloads

[wiyosaya]

[citation][nom]wiyosaya[/nom]IMHO, Job's arrogance is about to catch up with him, and Apple.[/citation]
I have to second this. It would be far, far cheaper to buy a BR movie than subscribe to a capped broadband plan just for the occasional movie download.

 

[velo2k77]

Listen to the words coming out of his mouth... You don't need blu-ray, you need the iTunes store and a device that's conveniently an iTunes only store front. Besides, putting in a Blu-Ray drive undermines the bottom line of the iTunes store by taking away from buying/renting movies for use on your iphone/pad/pod. iOS4 shoulda been named "Apple Store OS."

 

[zaznet]

@velo2k77

That's pretty much it. I'd say that Apple is missing an opportunity with BluRay because it fails to see how to make money from it. It sees BluRay as competing with iTunes video downloads and thus it is an "enemy" technology on it's platform.

They do not treat Audio CD nor DVD Video with the same regard however.

 

[demonhorde665]

generally i think jobs is a douche and an idiot ,butseriously come on guys .. we are talking about the future not the "now". of coruse right now not every oen has teh speed to stream 720p deccently letalone 1080p ,but in the not so far off future we will at some point hit this level of internet connectivity. and i think this is what steve kobs is talking about here. eventually bluray or what ever form of physical media WILL lose the format war against download /streamed content,its already happened with music. Since the vast majority of users will not care about owning the movie as long as they can get some form of cheap acess to it. where i disagree with jobs is on who will lead on this digital movie revolution , i'mcertain that while i-crap got music ,jobs and co willnot take the movie industry by storm .. i see netflix and MS (via xbx live) leading in this front actually , while net flix is toucha dn goa dn so reliant of the speed of your conection that will change with time as the average internt speed used goes up (and to think it wont ever go up is rather pessimistic in the worse way). on the MS side of things xbx live already offers full 1080p movies with 5.1-7.1 surround sound for down loading strait to a 360. sure you will still want a physical copy for those "big" titles. but the movie industries main source of income (where the home market is concerned) is really all those not so big name releases,and its these movies that people wont mind grabbing a digital version of or streaming it, as long as the cost is in line with the quality of the movie movie.

Sure steve jobs is a real grade A a--hat i can;t stand this guy myself,nearlyevery timeheopens his mouth he spews BS.However,it doesn't mean he should be dismissed the one time he says soemthing that makes logical sense,jsut because we all hate his and apple's guts.

 

[princeofdreams]

Sorry Mr Jobs you are sadly mistaken (well not sadly, quite pleased you are mistaken) but DD will not take over from Blue Ray for many reason, physical back up, store bought convenience, reliability, Internet restrictions and the one thing you clearly overlooked, I want my HD in 1080P not 720P, I want it playing through on my dedicated player not my computer, I want chapters and all the extras, I want a case and all the gubbins that go with it, in fact I just want the superior product that I own in a physical format. What I do not want and never will want is to live in Jobsland

 

[demonhorde665]

P.S. dont forget also digital format is also winning in the PC game indsutry already. via steam ,d2d, digital rivber,not to forget illegal game downloads as well.

 

[Guest]

"And if I want something to show for when I support a well made movie, well... hard drives aren't that sexy."

Alright, it's time to put some people in their place. Movie companies, for one don't care if you own the packaging their movie comes in or not. The only true way to support the movies you feel deserve your money is by purchasing them. To the studios, you can own it in what ever format you wish. You have paid them for their hardwork and effort either way.

Seecond, to everyone out here, this must be said. Blu-ray is not a format. It is a storage device. You do not download Blu-ray, you download an HD movie with an MPEG4 codec. A Blu-ray disc is around 25-50 GB. An HD movie is 8-10 GB depending on the length and quality of the film.

Third, what the man says is not all that scary of a topic to think about. If you look at digital storage versus physical storage the numbers are greatly stacked in digital terms.

'BD 30pack x 25gb disc's (750GB) $54.99
Lowest price BD ROM $59.99
750 GB HDD $54.99

why buy disposable media for 2x the price of rewriteable much faster media?"

Good point, but did you factor in other costs and concerns? What about the price of the cabinets you must now use to store these disks? What if you don't have the space to store all of this? Do you go looking for more space? How much does that cost? What about the cost of moving this?

My bet will always be on the 500 GB flash drive that fits in the palm of my hand, can be placed in anywhere on my desk and that can hold over 100 movies all accessebly linked to my home network. At the touch of a button I have 1080p movies right at the touch of my fingertips. And I don't even need to purchase the Blu-ray player for $300.00. Even I have cleaned up my entertainment center. I don't have a million wires going to a million different pieces of hardware.

I do agree that ISP's are not ready for this type of move, and until we get rid of the cap, they never truly will be. But maybe the only way for us to force the ISP's hands in the matter, is to move to the next stage in tech.

I know there will be a few people who blast me for this comment, but in the end, it comes down to one thing. Blu-ray is not all that it is cracked up to be.

 

[Guest]

He does realise that there are still alot of countries in this world with this thing called an internet cap?

 

[Guest]

Jobs is right. Microsoft was right when they are saying it a couple years ago too. Blu Ray is not going to get as big as DVD is; as a superior alternative to Blu Ray does exist and is spreading.

Uncompressed vs Compressed quality is not a big enough difference to matter to the vast majority of consumers; when the digital delivery method is far superior by giving instant on and at a much lower price.

The only problem is the broadband connections needed for switching to streaming are not widespread enough yet, and many of the broadband companies are limiting, or will be limiting data usage per month to protect their Cable/TV businesses.

 

[Djhg2000]

The title is somewhat correct; "Blu-ray Will Be Beaten By Downloads".

It's called piracy and beating Blu-ray will probably happen in about 2 generations of evolution in the field of distribution mediums.

End of story.

 

[old_newbie]

[citation][nom]proxy711[/nom]Well he is a retard, ill be the first in line to say it, but in my case he could be right.I never rent movies i see them all in the theater. about once a year i use a dvd or cd to install a game. almost all of the games i buy are digital(steam ftw). I don't back up data to disk anymore, the prices of external hardrives are so cheap if i need more data for backups ill just buy another. I don't have 500TBs of data i need to back up every month, so i wont be buying a new external every year.So for me i could see this happening, but i don't represent the whole population. nor does everyone have access to a good ISP/high speed internet so i cant really agree that blueray is just an in-between. there should always be a physical storage available.[/citation]

I gotta agree. I've made the same argument a few times against Bluray. When I can get a 1TB HDD for 1/4 the price of a BD burner and a spindle of BD-Rs, it kinda kills the "BD for back up" argument in my mind.
Also, with all the HD content coming over satty/cable services, OTA TV, and streaming internet, it just doesn't justify the premium for Bluray movies IMHO. I'm not knocking the BD quality...I'm always impressed by its image resolution. I'm just saying that I think the "the Disc" is no longer the prevailing tech to deliver that HD content.