Judge Overturns MySpace Cyberbullying Verdict

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[citation][nom]doomtomb[/nom]These two are psychos and deserve prison time. What kind of mother cyberbullies a 13 year old girl?[/citation]

It is the world we live in now. Sad isn't it? Sad to say but this will get worse with time and become a normal part of life.
 

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[citation][nom]tipmen[/nom]It is the world we live in now. Sad isn't it? Sad to say but this will get worse with time and become a normal part of life.[/citation]

you know what gets me about this comment ??? it is not the world we live in NOW it is teh world we have ALWAYS LIVED in.

every one acts like the world is some how more evil and less ethnical than it was 50 ,100 or a 1000 eyars ago. well that is jsut bull shit

go back to the 50's and there were many cases of domestic cruelty , stories about sposeal abuse and child abuse , hell one aunt even tortured and let her sons rape thier cousin (her niece). role back a little farther and we ahd slaves in this country , role back alitle further and we had people getting tortured for years over religion (spanish inquisition). role back some more time , and we had religion burning , hanging , and torturing more than half teh female population becuase "they were witches". hell role back to the time we were nothing but a bunch of cave monkeys and i can gaurantee you will still see us having done some screwed up shit.
our world (or at least western civilization) is far better than what it was in the past. only diference now is that we acknowledge this kind of behavior as being screwed up , in the past this kind of beahvior (or worse) was ignored. sayign the world today is more screwed up than it was in the past is the dumbest thing any huamn alive today can say.



P.S. the perpentrators should spend no less than 10 years in prison for this crap, my cousin robbed three convienant stores WITH NO casulties involved, and got 14 years in prison (and he still has to see a parole officer for another 10 years every month). yet these sick f---s harrass agirl into kiling herself , and receive next to no penalty.
 

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I honestly can't completely pick one side with this case.
I believe a EULA should have some power, but I feel it's more of a warning to let you know what you're getting into. I used to read EULAs, but not anymore.
To me at least, this is obviously abuse, but apparently they attempted to end it, so again I can't decide to say what should be done about it.
And then there's the girl. It would seem she was an easily influenced individual, which should be taken into account. If I tell 1000 people to go kill themselves (which I'm attempting to do...) hopefully none of they actually do it, however there is always the chance that one may fulfill my request.
Then there's cyber bullying. It appears to only affect the gullible and the ignorant. Those who will stay and listen to what an jerk has to say and those who don't know how to get it to stop. I've been bullied, and what did I do one day? Call the cops. Guess what, problem fixed. This was out of fear of having several bones broken by multiple people. I've had people be rude to me online; however I have never found it to be a issue. I always use a personal policy of anonymity, and thus it would be difficult to track me. I only use my legal name when registering my Windows license.
Then there's the argument that her parents should have been watching her online interactions. I disagree with this. The fastest way to learn is to be thrown right into the thick of things, and that includes the net. Of course some guidance helps, but you'll never learn to ride a bike if you always use training wheels (my oldest brother used training wheels, took him months. I didn't, and it took me hours to learn without any help at all). The world, both modern and past, has many foolish social conventions I do not agree with and wholly believe they are a nuisance upon the world, however the net doesn't have many of these in the same quantity or context in many situations. A thing such as sexual protection is something a parent should teach, but in general, things such as consequences of actions are something that needs to be learned first hand. We must be allowed to make our own mistakes, because that's the best way to learn to never repeat them when a direr situation occurs.
Then there's the argument that justice must be served. I hate justice. I have already learned that the consequences of revenge are more than the benefits. I believe in at least attempting to make the world a little better. I truly believe the reason to put someone behind bars is to make them rethink their actions and how to carry on the rest of their lives, no to punish them for their crimes. Having a person sent to prison for the rest of their lives is a waste. It is actually a burden on society for revenge, and nothing else. The only other reason I believe to send someone in prison is to prevent them form harming others. I doubt anyone will benefit from this woman going to prison other than society being satisfied for a whole two seconds for revenge.

Sorry for the rant, assuming a single person ever reads it.

[citation][nom]demonhorde665[/nom]you know what gets me about this comment ??? it is not the world we live in NOW it is teh world we have ALWAYS LIVED in. every one acts like the world is some how more evil and less ethnical than it was 50 ,100 or a 1000 eyars ago. well that is jsut bull shit go back to the 50's and there were many cases of domestic cruelty , stories about sposeal abuse and child abuse , hell one aunt even tortured and let her sons rape thier cousin (her niece). role back a little farther and we ahd slaves in this country , role back alitle further and we had people getting tortured for years over religion (spanish inquisition). role back some more time , and we had religion burning , hanging , and torturing more than half teh female population becuase "they were witches". hell role back to the time we were nothing but a bunch of cave monkeys and i can gaurantee you will still see us having done some screwed up shit. our world (or at least western civilization) is far better than what it was in the past. only diference now is that we acknowledge this kind of behavior as being screwed up , in the past this kind of beahvior (or worse) was ignored. sayign the world today is more screwed up than it was in the past is the dumbest thing any huamn alive today can say. P.S. the perpentrators should spend no less than 10 years in prison for this crap, my cousin robbed three convienant stores WITH NO casulties involved, and got 14 years in prison (and he still has to see a parole officer for another 10 years every month). yet these sick f---s harrass agirl into kiling herself , and receive next to no penalty.[/citation]

I appreciate what you're saying. Crime rates are the lowest ever throughout recorded history.
What you say is also disappointing... One of my uncles has robbed liquor stores, been a pimp, drug dealer, and likes to beat woman, and crippled his brother while driving toked... Even though the authorities know exactly what he does and have had him in custody often, they don't seem to want to put the man behind bars. For robbing a few stores without any harm done, I do believe some prison time may be best, but anything over a couple years seems extreme to me (possible that the judge was trying to make an example, or there's more that I just don't know about the situation).

[citation][nom]JMcEntegart[/nom]It's not trolling, it's my job. I'm supposed to read and respond to comments.[/citation]

Oh really now?
Then what is your favourite variety of waffles? I prefer fresh strawberries and whipped cream with butter with a cup of cold orange juice with a lot of pulp.
Also to note, I used a spellchecker before submitting this post.

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"I appreciate what you're saying. Crime rates are the lowest ever throughout recorded history.
What you say is also disappointing... One of my uncles has robbed liquor stores, been a pimp, drug dealer, and likes to beat woman, and crippled his brother while driving toked... Even though the authorities know exactly what he does and have had him in custody often, they don't seem to want to put the man behind bars. For robbing a few stores without any harm done, I do believe some prison time may be best, but anything over a couple years seems extreme to me (possible that the judge was trying to make an example, or there's more that I just don't know about the situation)."


i dont see how what i asiad could be "disapointing" its the truth and though the story you tell is f--ked up , it still doenst compare to the atrocities man has commited throguh out teh ages , and it still does prove an argument that the world today is so horrid over what has happened in the past. i stand by my points , and i stil tyhink the world today is far beter than what we had in the past.
 

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[citation][nom]demonhorde665[/nom]"I appreciate what you're saying. Crime rates are the lowest ever throughout recorded history.What you say is also disappointing... One of my uncles has robbed liquor stores, been a pimp, drug dealer, and likes to beat woman, and crippled his brother while driving toked... Even though the authorities know exactly what he does and have had him in custody often, they don't seem to want to put the man behind bars. For robbing a few stores without any harm done, I do believe some prison time may be best, but anything over a couple years seems extreme to me (possible that the judge was trying to make an example, or there's more that I just don't know about the situation)."i dont see how what i asiad could be "disapointing" its the truth and though the story you tell is f--ked up , it still doenst compare to the atrocities man has commited throguh out teh ages , and it still does prove an argument that the world today is so horrid over what has happened in the past. i stand by my points , and i stil tyhink the world today is far beter than what we had in the past.[/citation]

It's dissapointing to see a man like my uncle walk away and a man like your cousin get 14 years of hard time.

Though you're right, much worse events have occured. WWII anyone?
 

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[citation][nom]themanwithanrx7[/nom]Congrats for ruining what was a fine judgment, The two women should get what is coming to them.. Their direct bullying caused a emotionally unstable girl to kill herself.At the very least they should have to pay grievances to the parents.[/citation]
A LOT of teenage suicides could be prevented if parents got off their keisters and started taking part in their child's lives. SOOO many parents think their children are innocent and happy without actually really being their for their children. It's not the internets fault this teen killed herself, its the parents for not properly adoring their child or giving her a reason to want to stay alive.... which ,btw a LOT of adults today are having trouble finding because we were born into monetary slavery.
 
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This ruling HAD to be overturned. Yea that lady is a bitch and should be cock slapped but you can't set a precedent that would be applied everywhere. and thats what this would do. Imagine putting everyone in jail who violates a TOS. (you thought the were overcrowded before?). And cyber bullying can't be regulated. If it was illegal could you imagine how many people could be throw in jail on a Friday night from world of warcraft alone?
These "victims" and their families need to take some responsibility here. if you don't like what is being said on the internet to you.... use the power switch... don't kill yourself and blame society. come on.
 

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I love cyberbullies, or wannabe's. I love to play their game and then turn things around on them muuhhahaha. But yeah that lady needs a beat down. I remember watching the video on this. It had something to do with the girls. The one that killed herself stopped being friends with the psycho mom's daughter. So psycho mom set that up to get her back. Man I couldn't imagine that the person that led your daughter to kill herself is just three houses down the street.
 

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well my cousin getting 14 years is not waht upsets me so much , it's the fact that many otehr peopel get away with so much more and get no penalty if at all , that is was is upseting to me , My cousin did do the crime, even though he was careful and made sure no oen got hurt in the process , he still stole from some one , granted 14 eyars was harsh but he shouldnt have robbed those stores , my main point was that they ahve given much harsher punishments for lesser offences while these peopel get off sott free for bassically convienceing a girl to kil herself
 

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I guess the bullies had her cornered online, with no way for her to escape.

Sure a woman who would falsify her identity to verbally attack a young teenage girl needs to be horse whipped, but where were the parents of this young girl. The internet should be treated like a gun kept in the house when young children and teens are present. As much as I love the internet and what it provides, it is a gateway to a 1000 terrible things that I don't my daughter exposed to. She is only 2, but when she gets older and asks if she can chat or have a facebook or myspace account, I'll be using webfilters and keyloggers. Parents who lack the techical savy and commitment to take such precautions shouldn't have internet access.
 
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to be honest it had to be overturned, the mom still has to be punished, but punished THE RIGHT WAY, through the RIGHT CHANNEL.
 
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