Judge Places Limits on Airport Laptop Searches

[HalJordan]

How many people are they going to nab transporting illicit photos on their laptops? I just don't see the TSA having the time, manpower, or expertise to warrant these kinds of searches. Pointless, bordering on illegal...

 

[knownalien]

not to mention that this was all supposedly for TERRORISTS. But now the Patriot Act is for everything. Really, let's just volunteer everything we say, do and think to the gov't and let's see how quickly there are more criminals than "non-criminals."

 

[killerclick]

[citation][nom]littlec[/nom]There is no source nor will there ever be, those in the know and in the INFOSEC business claim it as fact. Hell if kids of the University of Michigan[/citation]

This is not cracking an encryption algorithm but exploiting a bug in order to snoop the password. If the NSA put a key logger in my keyboard that wouldn't be cracking the encryption but stealing the password.

Besides, if the NSA can do it, the FSB, GRU, MI5 and whatever their Chinese counterparts are can also do it and that means the whole concept of data security is screwed.

 

[zambutu]

[citation][nom]Spanky Deluxe[/nom]Maybe searches of a laptop should not be allowed, however, it should be noted that in this case a paedophile was caught because of the search.[/citation]

If they allowed random home invasions with full computer checks they could probably find more pedophiles. Where do you draw the line? I don't think any of these searches should be allowed unless there is evidence pointing to the specific need.

 

[littlec]

[citation][nom]killerclick[/nom]This is not cracking an encryption algorithm but exploiting a bug in order to snoop the password. If the NSA put a key logger in my keyboard that wouldn't be cracking the encryption but stealing the password.Besides, if the NSA can do it, the FSB, GRU, MI5 and whatever their Chinese counterparts are can also do it and that means the whole concept of data security is screwed.[/citation]

Not true. the NSA got crucial information regarding RSA over a decade ago. They wouldn't ever share any of their breakthroughs to other nations that's why THEY'RE THE NSA! Do I need to spell NSA out for you? They fact that they cracked it will never be released but it is in the INFOSEC community a commonly accepted assumption. This doesn't mean the internet will fail or data security is worthless now it just means YOU DONT FSCK with the NSA. If you aren't doing anything illegal there is nothing to fear.

 

[False_Dmitry_II]

Sounds like I'd either ship stuff home UPS, or dban it before bringing it.

 

[Shadow703793]

[citation][nom]figgus[/nom]Steganography is a much better option, imo, since they won't even know to go looking for it.[/citation]
Good point, considering it's some what obvious when you encrypt stuff with TrueCrypt,etc.

 

[turbolover22]

The thing is that most of the laws enacted to protect us actually restrict and remove the freedoms we previously had.

Not all of us are terrorists, but all of us are treated like we are terrorists. All the lobbyists need to do is say the word terror in the title of their presentation and they will most likely achieve their goal and succeed in restricting our rights a little more.

 

[killerclick]

[citation][nom]littlec[/nom]They fact that they cracked it will never be released but it is in the INFOSEC community a commonly accepted assumption.[/citation]

And Obama being born in Kenya is a commonly accepted assumption in the Birther community, yet it's also unsubstantiated bullshit.


[citation][nom]littlec[/nom]This doesn't mean the internet will fail or data security is worthless now it just means YOU DONT FSCK with the NSA. If you aren't doing anything illegal there is nothing to fear.[/citation]

If NSA can do it, any other intelligence service can do it or will be able to in a few years. There's nothing special about the NSA.

 

[climber]

Maybe "cloud computing" is merely the efforts of big business to comply with the governments need to see every piece of data on all of us, and if we don't have local data anymore and it's all stored in the cloud, then the government can snoop to it's hearts content... NSA wins.

 

[knownalien]

play the video at the link.

 

[knownalien]

[citation][nom]killerclick[/nom]And Obama being born in Kenya is a commonly accepted assumption in the Birther community, yet it's also unsubstantiated bullshit..[/citation]

really: http/fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/explosive-testimony-obama-not-born-in-hawaii/

 

[littlec]

[citation][nom]killerclick[/nom]If NSA can do it, any other intelligence service can do it or will be able to in a few years. There's nothing special about the NSA.[/citation]

Actually it has nothing to do with it being a government organization so much as the people it has employed to crack RSA. Honestly I could care less about a skeptic calling bs on a msg board you don't work in the INFOSEC field and you don't talk to people or work with people who have or had Security clearances for this field. You should know one thing though if you're using RSA on your server and think you can get away hosting illegal content you're fucked. That's all I'm going to say.

 

[Guest]

Funny how an initiative started to catch terrorists by the republican administration was widely criticized by the left for invading the rights of citizens. Yet the bill only targeted criminal terrorist activities. Later, the liberal administration is the one leveraging the act, to prosecute citizens for non terrorist activities. So much so as to cross the line on legality, being over ruled in a court of law. That the content is questionable is no reason to violate rights and law. Matters worse, the content is questionably illegal. Foreign countries have different laws regarding these matters and a simple photo of a public place is a weak argument to accuse a citizen for pedophilia.

 

[killerclick]

[citation][nom]knownalien[/nom]really: http/fellowshipofminds.wordpress [...] in-hawaii/[/citation]

Sorry Orly, I don't speak batshit.

 

[Christopher1]

[citation][nom]otacon72[/nom]Come on get the title right "Judge Places Limits on Airport Laptop Searches for Inbound International flights". None of this applies to domestic flights.[/citation]

They already didn't have any right to search your laptop without a warrant or your permission for domestic flights, so why would it matter!

 

[pinkfloydminnesota]

There are plenty of legally published books by major American publishing houses containing pictures of male and female minors of all ages completely nude on the beach and even in beds, these do not constitute child pornography.

Consider how easy it would be to get M$ to have an underpaid TSA person to search the computer of a Google exec ... corporate espionage is an old and respected vocation.

"here's on to consider: a closeup shot of a FULLY clothed minor's genitalia would also be considered child porn."

.. not to mention a new technological breakthrough!

 

[tethoma]

[citation][nom]killerclick[/nom]TrueCrypt AES.[/citation]

They require you give them the pass phrase and or encryption key. Not sure what happens when you say no.

 

[killerclick]

[citation][nom]tethoma[/nom]They require you give them the pass phrase and or encryption key. Not sure what happens when you say no.[/citation]

In some jurisdiction there is an exception for self incrimination, that is they can't order you to incriminate yourself. In other jurisdictions (most of the EU) there is jail time and a large fine involved.

However... there is no way to prove that a file is encrypted. It just looks like random data without the key. Also TrueCrypt supports hidden volumes so you can give them the wrong password and they'll get the wrong set of data (while the important stuff is undetectable and hidden under another password).

So it's pretty much like any other legal problem, if you have a good lawyer you're in the clear.

Of course I'm discussing this in the context of the article. If "they" really want to know what's on your computer, they can plant a key-logger to steal your password or plant a kilo of heroin on you or put you in a secret prison and waterboard your ass until you give up everything.

 

[Blessedman]

love the clear violation of our constitution! Illegal search and seizure for the win! Obama and Bush both work for the same team!! Way to go American Citizens strike 3 and we are out...