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Didn't Japan have a 1,000 line Analog TV years ago?

"David" <davey@home.net> wrote in message
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>> hdtv@bellsouth.net wrote:
>>
>>>>Too bad we can't use the ones they are selling in the UK which are going
>>>>for as little as $37 on sale.
>>> Perhaps, but since the United States is the only country successfully
>>> broadcasting HDTV the world will never know why we are so happy and
>>> they are sad, even with their superior COFDM.
>>> Look for Europe and Australia to switch to 8VSB in the next year
>>> making the $37 boxes free.
> > The only country successfully broadcasting HD in the world? More like
>> the only country unsuccessfully broadcasting HD. I would argue that
>> Australia and Japan are both more successfully broadcasting HD using
>> COFDM. In both countries the customer is avidly buying HD OTA receivers
>> in ever increasing numbers.
> > In the US till now few people have bought any kind of OTA receiver. In
>> fact the US is so singularly UNsuccessful that it has had to mandate
>> receivers in every TV set. Not so in Japan where the sales of INTEGRATED
>> OTA HDTV sets are selling very well. Australia is selling ten times the
>> receivers we are selling.
> > The only thing the US has done is force a lot of broadcasters on the
>> air, they haven't forced a lot of customers to put up antennas, not even
>> the ones who have bought HD sets to watch DVDs.
> > Bob Miller
>
>
> WHY do you insist on making a fool of yourself?!
>
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Valdivar wrote:
> Didn't Japan have a 1,000 line Analog TV years ago?
>

Yes, but it was never successful as a terrestrial broadcast. Almost
everyone who received it got it from satellite.

Matthew

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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Matthew L. Martin wrote:
> Valdivar wrote:
>> Didn't Japan have a 1,000 line Analog TV years ago?
> Yes, but it was never successful as a terrestrial broadcast. Almost everyone
> who received it got it from satellite.

The same thing is true with digital HDTV in Japan. Terrestrial digital
HDTV covers a very small service area (not even all of Tokyo, although
parts of Chiba prefecture get the signal) and there isn't very much
programming.

The vast majority of HDTV programming in Japan is by satellite.

-- Mark --

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Si vis pacem, para bellum.

 

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Mark Crispin wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Matthew L. Martin wrote:
>
>> Valdivar wrote:
>>
>>> Didn't Japan have a 1,000 line Analog TV years ago?
>>
>> Yes, but it was never successful as a terrestrial broadcast. Almost
>> everyone who received it got it from satellite.
>
>
> The same thing is true with digital HDTV in Japan. Terrestrial digital
> HDTV covers a very small service area (not even all of Tokyo, although
> parts of Chiba prefecture get the signal) and there isn't very much
> programming.
>
> The vast majority of HDTV programming in Japan is by satellite.
>
> -- Mark --
>
> http/staff.washington.edu/mrc
> Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
> Si vis pacem, para bellum.

Lets let the Japanese tell us more. Like 17 million or 35% of population
covered at the end of 2004. Full power to first three reagions by end of
2005 with 48% coverage. And Cell phone reception of digital TV. It is
all explained pretty well at these sites.

To keep reiterating that the reality now in Japan HD is mostly satellite
is pointless. Terrestrial only started a year ago. Is it suppossed to be
totally comprehensive in a year? In the US after 7 years 8-VSB is
totally incomprehensible to 99% of the population. Japan is far ahead in HD.

www.dibeg.org/PressR/BrazilSET2004/SET2004_ver1.pdf
http/www.nabshow.com/PaperDescription.asp?id=1202097
"mobile from early 2005"

Bob Miller

 

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Bob Miller wrote:

> Mark Crispin wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Matthew L. Martin wrote:
>>
>>> Valdivar wrote:
>>>
>>>> Didn't Japan have a 1,000 line Analog TV years ago?
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, but it was never successful as a terrestrial broadcast. Almost
>>> everyone who received it got it from satellite.
>>
>>
>>
>> The same thing is true with digital HDTV in Japan. Terrestrial
>> digital HDTV covers a very small service area (not even all of Tokyo,
>> although parts of Chiba prefecture get the signal) and there isn't
>> very much programming.
>>
>> The vast majority of HDTV programming in Japan is by satellite.
>>
>> -- Mark --
>>
>> http/staff.washington.edu/mrc
>> Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
>> Si vis pacem, para bellum.
>
>
> Lets let the Japanese tell us more. Like 17 million or 35% of population
> covered at the end of 2004. Full power to first three reagions by end of
> 2005 with 48% coverage. And Cell phone reception of digital TV. It is
> all explained pretty well at these sites.

That should be "17 million now and 35% of population covered by the end
of 2004"
>
> To keep reiterating that the reality now in Japan HD is mostly satellite
> is pointless. Terrestrial only started a year ago. Is it suppossed to be
> totally comprehensive in a year? In the US after 7 years 8-VSB is
> totally incomprehensible to 99% of the population. Japan is far ahead in
> HD.
>
> www.dibeg.org/PressR/BrazilSET2004/SET2004_ver1.pdf
> http/www.nabshow.com/PaperDescription.asp?id=1202097
> "mobile from early 2005"
>
> Bob Miller
>
>

 

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Bob Miller wrote:

> Bob Miller wrote:
>
>> Mark Crispin wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Matthew L. Martin wrote:
>>>
>>>> Valdivar wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Didn't Japan have a 1,000 line Analog TV years ago?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but it was never successful as a terrestrial broadcast. Almost
>>>> everyone who received it got it from satellite.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The same thing is true with digital HDTV in Japan. Terrestrial
>>> digital HDTV covers a very small service area (not even all of Tokyo,
>>> although parts of Chiba prefecture get the signal) and there isn't
>>> very much programming.
>>>
>>> The vast majority of HDTV programming in Japan is by satellite.
>>>
>>> -- Mark --
>>>
>>> http/staff.washington.edu/mrc
>>> Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
>>> Si vis pacem, para bellum.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lets let the Japanese tell us more. Like 17 million or 35% of
>> population covered at the end of 2004. Full power to first three
>> reagions by end of 2005 with 48% coverage. And Cell phone reception of
>> digital TV. It is all explained pretty well at these sites.
>
>
> That should be "17 million now and 35% of population covered by the end
> of 2004"

That should actually be "2005" Sorry
>
>>
>> To keep reiterating that the reality now in Japan HD is mostly
>> satellite is pointless. Terrestrial only started a year ago. Is it
>> suppossed to be totally comprehensive in a year? In the US after 7
>> years 8-VSB is totally incomprehensible to 99% of the population.
>> Japan is far ahead in HD.
>>
>> www.dibeg.org/PressR/BrazilSET2004/SET2004_ver1.pdf
>> http/www.nabshow.com/PaperDescription.asp?id=1202097
>> "mobile from early 2005"
>>
>> Bob Miller
>>
>>