LG Announces Ultra-thin 55-inch OLED TV

[wiyosaya]

[citation][nom]theconsolegamer[/nom]LG said this TV's were going to be out in 2011.... Guess what LG, we're in 2012![/citation]
Rumored to be $8K US at launch.

 

[wiyosaya]

[citation][nom]theconsolegamer[/nom]LG said this TV's were going to be out in 2011.... Guess what LG, we're in 2012![/citation]
What? Who else has anything like this? Complaints, complaints, but you will not find a better TV anywhere.

 

[will_chellam]

[citation][nom]Phishy714[/nom]I bought a 55in LED tv back when LED tv's were starting to come on board. Needless to say, I paid around 2k for it, while better ones with WIFI are available now for about $1300. Since LED TV's are still viewed as modern and the "newest" thing, and probably will be viewed this way for another year or two, I can see this OLED costing about 3-4k and not being worth it lol. At this point, I don't see any reason for anyone to "upgrade" to something like this unless they have an old projection screen, and even then, it will cost too much to upgrade.[/citation]


3-4k? Are you having a laugh??? LEG have a 15.6" OLED TV on the market right now that costs £2,000 (approx. $3,100) so even at a proportional cost this will be £7,500 ($11,000) BUT, expect it to cost significantly more than this.

Incidently, as far as not worth it, check out the reviews for the 15.6" OLED - described as the best picture, ever, period. So if youve got the money and want the best, this could well be the way to go.

 

[freggo]

Contrast ration of 100,000,000:1

Does anyone know what the limit for human vision is?
Can we actually 'see' that much contrast detail ?

 

[jgutz2006]

[citation][nom]freggo[/nom]Contrast ration of 100,000,000:1Does anyone know what the limit for human vision is?Can we actually 'see' that much contrast detail ?[/citation]

There is no baseline for measuring "Dynamic Contrast Ratio" but these numbers are determined by each manufacture based on exatly what, varies between each mfg. Great put the big number to help sell your TV but please include the Static Contrast Ratio as well. Dynamic refers to the brightest the TV could be compared to the darkest, but these 2 extremes cannot be achieved simultaneously whereas static is exactly that. Very misleading but why would someone buy a 100,000:1 advertised contrast ratio when the cheaper tv next to it has 10,000,000:1. Read about what this means for yourself: http/www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/contrast-ratio.html

 

[icemunk]

[citation][nom]will_chellam[/nom]3-4k? Are you having a laugh??? LEG have a 15.6" OLED TV on the market right now that costs £2,000 (approx. $3,100) so even at a proportional cost this will be £7,500 ($11,000) BUT, expect it to cost significantly more than this.Incidently, as far as not worth it, check out the reviews for the 15.6" OLED - described as the best picture, ever, period. So if youve got the money and want the best, this could well be the way to go.[/citation]

Hmm.. Your calculations are a bit off.. if you're going with proportional cost, the 55" has about 15 times more screen area than the 15.6" OLD.. so $3100 X 15 would be around $46,500

 

[wiyosaya]

[citation][nom]freggo[/nom]Contrast ration of 100,000,000:1Does anyone know what the limit for human vision is?Can we actually 'see' that much contrast detail ?[/citation]
This article HAS misquoted the spec. The spec is 100,000:1 and is likely a true measure of black (off) to white (on), rather than some random measure of contrast or "dynamic" contrast like most display manufacturers use in their marketing blather.

 

[mayne92]

Going to be so very expensive. An analyst stated from another site that will be well over $5,000...hell an 11" from Sony couple years back or so was $2,500. Will need the typical better manufacturing and competition in general to bring these babies down in price.

 

[JohnnyLucky]

I think it will take a couple of years for prices to drop down to an acceptable level.

 

[wiyosaya]

[citation][nom]mayne92[/nom]Going to be so very expensive. An analyst stated from another site that will be well over $5,000...hell an 11" from Sony couple years back or so was $2,500. Will need the typical better manufacturing and competition in general to bring these babies down in price.[/citation]
It is not as well publicized, however, Samsung is rumored to also be showing a 55" OLED TV at CES 2012 next week.
The competition may be there from the start. If so, price may come down quickly.

In the grand scheme of things, if the rumors of $8K price are true, this is much less than when plasma and LCD screens of that size first started appearing on the market. That is not comforting to those of us who would like this to be in the $2K range, however, I do not think that $2K for an OLED of this size is that far off. There has been a lot of research into OLED and OLED manufacturing, and both are producing results which are soon to be commercialized. One of the most exciting technologies and perhaps the one with the highest potential price-reducing impact is a technology from Dupont that allows printing OLED displays with an inkjet printer.

 

[C 64]

[citation][nom]pbrigido[/nom]4mm thick? I can stack 25 of those to equal the same depth as my aging LCD tv.[/citation]
You will have to stack much more of them to match the thickness of your wallet if you want to buy one.
At least in first few years....

 

[pbrigido]

I[citation][nom]C 64[/nom]You will have to stack much more of them to match the thickness of your wallet if you want to buy one.At least in first few years....[/citation]

It's a good thing I have no interest in buying one!

 

[alchemy69]

LG are using white OLED with colour filters. I'm more interested in what Samsung will show at CES.

 

[Guest]

[citation][nom]wiyosaya[/nom]No marketing talk here. The electronics are in the base. The display area is 4 mm thick. More details here and here.And no, I don't work for LG. I've been following next generation TV tech like this for years.[/citation]

The electronics are in the base? So all of the cables plug in there? That'd be nice. We buy some pretty nice looking screens, like my Samsung 46", and it all looks so pretty til it has a bunch of random cables dangling off the back. I like the base plug-in idea, or they could at least do a single large cable of 3-4" that attaches to a breakout box with all of the necessary connectors. Something I can hide, you get the idea.

 

[fonzy]

I also heard it will be selling for $8000 when first released and dropping 50% to $4000 by late 2013.

 

[stevo777]

Just for clarification, the professional estimations are for the 55 OLED TV to cost ~$8,000 when they are released later this year, and around $4,000 by the end of 2013. In all fairness, it will probably take until 2014 before there are enough of them manufactured, and the prices come down to a reasonable level to the slightly above average buyer for them to sell OLED TV's in a more then novel fashion.

http/www.digitimes.com/news/a20120103PD207.html

 

[wiyosaya]

[citation][nom]clonazebrain[/nom]The electronics are in the base? So all of the cables plug in there? That'd be nice. We buy some pretty nice looking screens, like my Samsung 46", and it all looks so pretty til it has a bunch of random cables dangling off the back. I like the base plug-in idea, or they could at least do a single large cable of 3-4" that attaches to a breakout box with all of the necessary connectors. Something I can hide, you get the idea.[/citation]
The cleanest setup will come from having a receiver or processor with HDMI switching. Then you only have to run one HDMI cable to the TV. Yamaha makes inexpensive receivers (~$500) that have HDMI switching built-in.

 

[saturnus]

[citation][nom]alchemy69[/nom]LG are using white OLED with colour filters. I'm more interested in what Samsung will show at CES.[/citation]

I agree.

LG uses colour filtered white OLEDs in order overcome the problem of different coloured OLED having different lifetimes, most notably that blue OLED having much shorter lifetimes, and varying performance over their lifetime. The LG displays have a lifetime of about 100K hours, or about 11.4 years of continuous use.

Samsung as far as I've understood it instead uses 2 blue OLEDs and 1 green and red OLED per pixel. Distributing the blue over 2 OLED does not double the lifetime of a single blue OLED but gives it roughly 10 times longer lifetime so that matches the red and green OLED, and about twice the lifetime of white OLEDs, roughly 180K hour (20 years of continuous use). I order to compact vaying performance over the lifetime Samsung reportedly measures the usage time of every single OLED and adjusts performance for each accordingly.

 

[wiyosaya]

[citation][nom]fonzy[/nom]I also heard it will be selling for $8000 when first released and dropping 50% to $4000 by late 2013.[/citation]
[citation][nom]stevo777[/nom]Just for clarification, the professional estimations are for the 55 OLED TV to cost ~$8,000 when they are released later this year, and around $4,000 by the end of 2013. In all fairness, it will probably take until 2014 before there are enough of them manufactured, and the prices come down to a reasonable level to the slightly above average buyer for them to sell OLED TV's in a more then novel fashion.http/www.digitimes.com/news/a20120103PD207.html[/citation]
Thanks for reiterating what I posted earlier. It is hard to say what is going to happen and whether these prices will pan out. In my opinion, these sets are not that expensive to make. What was expensive, I imagine, was the R&D that went into them. If LG and Samsung try to recover that by keeping prices high the first few years, I see that as potentially harmful to the market. However, the competition between LG and Samsung will be a good thing as Samsung is also rumored to introduce a 55" OLED TV at CES 2012 next week.

OLED technology in displays is much simpler to implement. This, coupled with recent R&D on the verge of commercialization, has the potential to drop prices significantly in what might be a much shorter period of time than happened when plasma and LCD were introduced. At an $8K market entry (as I mentioned in an earlier post), the launch of OLED TVs is significantly cheaper than when 55" LCD and plasma TVs came on the market 10 years or so ago. If I am not mistaken, plasma sets in the mid-40-inch range were $15K.

I have a hopeful attitude; yet, OLED offers better than 100% NTSC color gamut (consider LCDs can only do about 80% NTSC color gamut) and true blacks and whites that allow the 100,000:1 contrast ratios - which are likely "real" contrast ratios. Lastly, add the fact that the response time is 1000 times faster than LCD, the spec for this set is 0.1 microseconds, combine to give these sets (well, at least in theory, anyway ), the best picture quality of any TV or monitor currently available. My only worry is that high picture quality will produce a high demand that will drive up prices.

 

[lamorpa]

[citation][nom]theconsolegamer[/nom]LG said this TV's were going to be out in 2011.... Guess what LG, we're in 2012![/citation]
Wow. You really got them on this one. I'll bet they never show their face in public again. Thanks for the heads up about it being 2012. I'm sure most people were unaware.