lifetime vs monthly

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I have my second 50xx coming this week. I am thinking of forking over the
$300 lifetime for this unit. My old 50xx is on a monthly subscription at
$9.99. What are the thoughts of the group as to lifetime vs monthly. I
don't think a 2 yr payoff is all that great with the lifetime, but I was
starting to lean towards it so I don't have the monthly bill.

 

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My 3030 is still working fine after 3 years so I expect my 5000's to do
the same making the lifetime a better bargain. You might say that after
2 years you'll want something new but so far, the newer models are
inferior to the 5000 series since some features are disabled.

From:Chris Bairrington
Bairrington(Removeforspam)@hotmail.com

> I have my second 50xx coming this week. I am thinking of forking
> over the $300 lifetime for this unit. My old 50xx is on a monthly
> subscription at $9.99. What are the thoughts of the group as to
> lifetime vs monthly. I don't think a 2 yr payoff is all that great
> with the lifetime, but I was starting to lean towards it so I don't
> have the monthly bill.

 

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Chris Bairrington wrote:

> I have my second 50xx coming this week. I am thinking of forking over the
> $300 lifetime for this unit. My old 50xx is on a monthly subscription at
> $9.99. What are the thoughts of the group as to lifetime vs monthly. I
> don't think a 2 yr payoff is all that great with the lifetime, but I was
> starting to lean towards it so I don't have the monthly bill.
>
>
The payoff is more like 6-7 months since a monthly unit is almost
worthless used and a lifetime unit sells for around $200 more.

 

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I agree, I got the lifetime on my second unit(5160) and it was well worth
it...

"Anthony Donegan" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:4078ba40$1_2@127.0.0.1...
> Chris Bairrington wrote:
>
> > I have my second 50xx coming this week. I am thinking of forking over
the
> > $300 lifetime for this unit. My old 50xx is on a monthly subscription
at
> > $9.99. What are the thoughts of the group as to lifetime vs monthly. I
> > don't think a 2 yr payoff is all that great with the lifetime, but I was
> > starting to lean towards it so I don't have the monthly bill.
> >
> >
> The payoff is more like 6-7 months since a monthly unit is almost
> worthless used and a lifetime unit sells for around $200 more.

 

[Someone]

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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:23:40 -0400, Anthony Donegan
<nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

>Chris Bairrington wrote:
>
>> I have my second 50xx coming this week. I am thinking of forking over the
>> $300 lifetime for this unit. My old 50xx is on a monthly subscription at
>> $9.99. What are the thoughts of the group as to lifetime vs monthly. I
>> don't think a 2 yr payoff is all that great with the lifetime, but I was
>> starting to lean towards it so I don't have the monthly bill.
>>
>>
>The payoff is more like 6-7 months since a monthly unit is almost
>worthless used and a lifetime unit sells for around $200 more.

That "value" is when assuming that you want to SELL it rather than USE
it. That seems to be a common mistake.

 

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someone wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:23:40 -0400, Anthony Donegan
> <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Chris Bairrington wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I have my second 50xx coming this week. I am thinking of forking over the
>>>$300 lifetime for this unit. My old 50xx is on a monthly subscription at
>>>$9.99. What are the thoughts of the group as to lifetime vs monthly. I
>>>don't think a 2 yr payoff is all that great with the lifetime, but I was
>>>starting to lean towards it so I don't have the monthly bill.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>The payoff is more like 6-7 months since a monthly unit is almost
>>worthless used and a lifetime unit sells for around $200 more.
>
>
> That "value" is when assuming that you want to SELL it rather than USE
> it. That seems to be a common mistake.
>
The "value" is how much you pay, minus how much it is worth when you are
finished with it. A common mistake.

 

[Someone]

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On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 02:12:43 -0400, Anthony Donegan
<nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

>someone wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:23:40 -0400, Anthony Donegan
>> <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Chris Bairrington wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have my second 50xx coming this week. I am thinking of forking over the
>>>>$300 lifetime for this unit. My old 50xx is on a monthly subscription at
>>>>$9.99. What are the thoughts of the group as to lifetime vs monthly. I
>>>>don't think a 2 yr payoff is all that great with the lifetime, but I was
>>>>starting to lean towards it so I don't have the monthly bill.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>The payoff is more like 6-7 months since a monthly unit is almost
>>>worthless used and a lifetime unit sells for around $200 more.
>>
>>
>> That "value" is when assuming that you want to SELL it rather than USE
>> it. That seems to be a common mistake.
>>
>The "value" is how much you pay, minus how much it is worth when you are
>finished with it. A common mistake.

So, the value you get from HAVING the Replay doesn't count at all?
Maybe you shouldn't have bought it.

I like my Replay and don't intened to sell it, so the value from your
method is 0. The value from it's usefulness to me is much greater.

 

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someone shaped the electrons to say:
>I like my Replay and don't intened to sell it, so the value from your
>method is 0. The value from it's usefulness to me is much greater.

Eventually you'll probably want to sell it to upgrade to something
better - HDTV, a bazillion hours, etc. Technology marches on. And
the residual value of the unit will be higher.

And if you *do* keep it for more than two years - well, then you'll
have spent less money on it anyway since you'd keep paying monthly
forever (and the price will probably go up again someday), while
lifetime is one time.

Lifetime is really the better value for both those who plan to keep
and use the unit a long time, and those more likely to resell it to
upgrade to something else.

I've always done lifetime on the TiVos I've owned, and it has paid off
- I've sold one already (to upgrade) and more than earned the fee
back. And I'll probably be selling another one of my older units soon
(I have another new one). I paid $200 for the first unit's lifetime,
but by the time I sold it lifetime was up to $250 - so that was the
resale value. On the newer one I paid $250 - but now it is worth $300.

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[Steph]

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I would agree that lifetime is better. I have two 45xx, one is just over
two years old and the second is nearly 1 year. I upgraded the elder unit
to a 250GB drive last summer. They have very high resale value and
except a terrible hardware failure scenario could easily recoup my
costs.


newsREMOVE@THISmegazone.org (MegaZone) wrote in news:megazone.1081792503
@sidehack.sat.gweep.net:

> someone shaped the electrons to say:
>>I like my Replay and don't intened to sell it, so the value from your
>>method is 0. The value from it's usefulness to me is much greater.
>
> Eventually you'll probably want to sell it to upgrade to something
> better - HDTV, a bazillion hours, etc. Technology marches on. And
> the residual value of the unit will be higher.
>
> And if you *do* keep it for more than two years - well, then you'll
> have spent less money on it anyway since you'd keep paying monthly
> forever (and the price will probably go up again someday), while
> lifetime is one time.
>
> Lifetime is really the better value for both those who plan to keep
> and use the unit a long time, and those more likely to resell it to
> upgrade to something else.
>
> I've always done lifetime on the TiVos I've owned, and it has paid off
> - I've sold one already (to upgrade) and more than earned the fee
> back. And I'll probably be selling another one of my older units soon
> (I have another new one). I paid $200 for the first unit's lifetime,
> but by the time I sold it lifetime was up to $250 - so that was the
> resale value. On the newer one I paid $250 - but now it is worth
$300.
>
> -MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762

 

[Someone]

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On 12 Apr 2004 17:55:03 GMT, newsREMOVE@THISmegazone.org (MegaZone)
wrote:

>someone shaped the electrons to say:
>>I like my Replay and don't intened to sell it, so the value from your
>>method is 0. The value from it's usefulness to me is much greater.
>
>Eventually you'll probably want to sell it to upgrade to something
>better - HDTV, a bazillion hours, etc. Technology marches on. And
>the residual value of the unit will be higher.
>
>And if you *do* keep it for more than two years - well, then you'll
>have spent less money on it anyway since you'd keep paying monthly
>forever (and the price will probably go up again someday), while
>lifetime is one time.
>
>Lifetime is really the better value for both those who plan to keep
>and use the unit a long time, and those more likely to resell it to
>upgrade to something else.
>

Could you have misunderstood? I didn't say anything about preferring
monthly (actually I prefer lifetime). I was disagreeing about the
value calculation.

>I've always done lifetime on the TiVos I've owned, and it has paid off
>- I've sold one already (to upgrade) and more than earned the fee
>back. And I'll probably be selling another one of my older units soon
>(I have another new one). I paid $200 for the first unit's lifetime,
>but by the time I sold it lifetime was up to $250 - so that was the
>resale value. On the newer one I paid $250 - but now it is worth $300.
>
>-MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762