Major Porn Studio: We Can't Wait to Ditch Flash

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matt314

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[citation][nom]rpmrush[/nom]For those saying Flash is no big deal... watch your temps and CPU loads while loading up 10 tabs of porn. Flash is heavy. It's hungry. Low resolution video shouldn't take that much to process. Flash eats more CPU power than full x264 that's not GPU accelerated. That's ridiculous. Bring on HTML5.[/citation]

Flash is not about video...Thats just what ppl started using it for because it was better than having the user open up another program on their computer. Those who think Flash is designed for video playback are gravely mistaken.
 

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Sure, my PC is not high end, intel e7300, 2GB RAM, 9800GTX+ and P5QL motherboard but it is not full of dust and does not overheat. However, is it normal for flash video to take up to 40-60% of my CPU usage? I've used XP as well as Win7 and I've formatted my computer several times but Flash has always used 40-60% of my CPU usage. Recently though, with the introduction of Hardware acceleration in flash 10.1 it's dropped to 30-40%, but that to me is still an inadequate amount when I can play back any HD video with less than 10% CPU usage with MPC-HC.
 

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[citation][nom]azgard[/nom]Your statement is riding in such an extreme minority I'm calling BS. I'm running a Core 2 machine on windows 7 with 4 gigs of ram, when flash content runs my machine feels it. And has everyone forgotten flash player 9's constant freezing and crashing of browsers? Did you miss a year of internet action or something? Flash has been consistently requiring more and more resources to process and how much improvement in the flash experience is anyone even really getting?[/citation]

Flash works just fine on my computer. Never have crashes.
 

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if there wasn't flash, we would all have to click links and load up the whole youtube page instead of just seeing an embedded video here. or then tomshardware would have to ask permission on each video to avoid getting sued for just ripping videos. also their website bandwidth usage would increase atleast 10x.

if you produce your own videos, you do win from this, but most of us don't.
 

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HTML5 has the potential to replace Flash, but there are issues that need to be resolved first.

A major issue is HTML5/Java games and animations need to be easy to author and have the complexity that Flash games and animations.

All existing Flash content (ads, videos, etc) need to transition over.

HTML5 has to support EVERYTHING that Flash can do.

Even after that there is going to be a lot of old content that simply WON'T get converted over because the owner doesn't think it worth their time to re-do old stuff (primarily old Flash games/animations)
 

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[citation][nom]kohvitass[/nom]if there wasn't flash, we would all have to click links and load up the whole youtube page instead of just seeing an embedded video here. or then tomshardware would have to ask permission on each video to avoid getting sued for just ripping videos. also their website bandwidth usage would increase atleast 10x.if you produce your own videos, you do win from this, but most of us don't.[/citation]
You do realize you can embed videos with HTML5, right? You don't need to host the video data to have it on your site. All you do is put in the source URL in the src = tag. Same with pictures, audio, text, and HTML pages themselves and you don't need to host any of that on your own site. Just put in the source URL.
 

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[citation][nom]ravewulf[/nom]...put in the source URL in the src = tag. Same with pictures, audio, text, and HTML pages themselves and you don't need to host any of that on your own site. Just put in the source URL.[/citation]
I had put "video tag" with "video" surrounded by the triangle bracket things, but it got removed as if it was real HTML code. Ah well..

Another cool thing about having the source URL like that is it makes the videos a lot easier to download. No more Flash downloader plugins! Just think if we could save a video just as easily as we can save pictures now. "Right-click > Save Video As..."

Hmm, that does become more of an issue when trying to download an HTML5 animation though. It wouldn't be as simple as saving an .swf file. You would have to get all the resources and save the HTML code that puts it all together.... Someone should work on a plugin that does that and saves it as a single file for offline use.
 

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I really don't care what the porn industry wants. I just know that i get sick of clicking on a video link and told i need to download something first. I think we should be using both html 5 and flash. I should not have to chose between the two.
 

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Well Flash had a good run. I made a bunch of sites using Flash and while it impressed my clients it just annoyed the visitors. I guess I'm lucky I stopped at Actionscript 2 and didn't invest any more time in Flash, now I only use it for video and stuff that can't be done in HTML.
 

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The truth be told, the porn industry has a lot of weight, admit it or not, on deciding what media wins when their is a media format war. VHS defeated Beta in the 80's simply because the porn industry backed VHS. Don't believe me, look it up. Flash will still be around, but used in a different capacity than what we experience today. HTML5 for video will win in that capacity because the porn industry will make it happen.
 

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Dont you see Steve jobs doesnt want porn on his godly (sarcasm) made phone? probably after sponsoring html5 he will make an update which blocks all porn content from entering or being viewed by his Phone!!
 

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[citation][nom]rpmrush[/nom]For those saying Flash is no big deal... watch your temps and CPU loads while loading up 10 tabs of porn. Flash is heavy. It's hungry. Low resolution video shouldn't take that much to process. Flash eats more CPU power than full x264 that's not GPU accelerated. That's ridiculous. Bring on HTML5.[/citation]

lol jesus you runnin a 1 ghz single core? get yourself a nice i7 and some ddr3 ram and it wont matter...im not saying people need a new comp every year, but once every...5 ya make an investment, your old rig wont be able to run all the current stuff smoothly. imho
 

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You can embed SVG in HTML 5. Why use Flash when there will undoubtedly be a tonne of opensource tools for vector animaiton in SVG soon enough? Which one is better? They are about equal now, but to be clear, Flash had ALOT of work to do to catch up to SVG over the years. SVG is an open format, not proprietary, that should be reason enough to develop new content in SVG.
 

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[citation][nom]rocky1234[/nom]Quote:"sure hope Flash loses, Flash is so bulky, laggy, a memory hog and my browsers crash so many times using Flash. WEbsites using Flash are also sooo annoying, so are website heavily using javascript."I never understood why so many people have so much trouble with their computers with simple programs like flash & other software. I use flash & a whole lot of other software & never have these problems. My 3 main machines run 24/7 on Windows 7 for weeks at a time with out crashes or problems. Infact 2 of those machines run an online game that is downsized when I am not in the game & I still use the PC's to surf the net & yes play flash videos etc etc without crashes. Maybe your PC is not setup right or you need to clean the dust out of your case as the system is probably running on the brink of crashing every moment it is turned on. A properly maintained PC should be able to run almost everything without crashing at every mouse click. Not posting this to be a a$$ just stating fact nothing else.-That is all-[/citation]

I never understood it either until my flash was upgraded to 10.1. Now every browser Chrome and Firefox crash on a regular basis. Somtimes multiple reloads are required until a video plays on Windows. Strangely on Linux flash 10.1 is stable but slow.

Yeah! I'd like to ditch anything that is not supported natively by the browser. And I don't want to use external programs to open links! And I am not lazy to use external programs to view. I just don't want to pollute my PC with extra crap!

Browser outta be enough for browsing the Internet!
 

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[citation][nom]Kaiser_25[/nom]lol jesus you runnin a 1 ghz single core? get yourself a nice i7 and some ddr3 ram and it wont matter...im not saying people need a new comp every year, but once every...5 ya make an investment, your old rig wont be able to run all the current stuff smoothly. imho[/citation]

Actually flash succeeds to bog my 6 months old mobile Core 2 Duo. Don't forget i7 is not for everybody and everything. You've got 1 billion mobile devices that feature a super tiny CPU.
 

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[citation][nom]azgard[/nom]Your statement is riding in such an extreme minority I'm calling BS. I'm running a Core 2 machine on windows 7 with 4 gigs of ram, when flash content runs my machine feels it. And has everyone forgotten flash player 9's constant freezing and crashing of browsers? Did you miss a year of internet action or something? Flash has been consistently requiring more and more resources to process and how much improvement in the flash experience is anyone even really getting?[/citation]

LOL I'm using a whole 3% of my CPU with 720p flash video. Temps went up by 2 degrees.

Time for an upgrade. FYI AMD isn't the fastest anymore. Just so ya know.
 

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Looks like Jopple's marketings anti-Adobe offensive continues. I don't like most of the flashy sites either, but it has its uses, nevertheless. Heck, I also don't like most of the sites that do NOT use flash at all.

[citation][nom]Nik_I[/nom]the porn industry seems to be the one who sets the standards, so if they were to actually go ahead and switch to html 5, flash's days are numbered.[/citation]
I hope this was sarcasm. Let me remind you:

Blue Ray vs HD DVD wasn't a fair battle between free and open standards. It was merely "who'd get more big guys on our side, so that we'd get all the royalty fees for using our megacool standard". It had NOTHING to do with what consumers want or need.

 
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