The GFW system isnt as what it can be yet but seeing where its coming from im not too pissed off with it. I got Gears of War for windows when it came out on my Vista machine, the first few days i couldnt play the game properly becuase GFW kept crashing it(they fixed it though), nowadays i load it up right from the box and it works, it updates it with all the patches it needs.All the games that use GFW now do that automatically, i dont need to waste time running to this site for that patch, when i load the game up it just downloads and installs it(I wish Battlefeild was like that).Id like some warning before hand as most times i load the game up i actually want to play it right then and there, but i let it do its thing and it restarts the game no fuss.The voice chat i find is horrendous though and and 30% of the time it wont connect but meh, nothing to raise my blood pressure over.