Music Industry Wants BitTorrent Blackout

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tenor77

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Going after the suppliers (talking about the ones that did the orignal seeding not the pirate bay) of illegal torrents = good

Blocking bittorrent = very very very bad precident

If the music industry gets their way it's bye bye freedom

We might as well outlaw guns, since they could be used to commit a crime, Cars since you can speed or drive drunk, cleaners cause they can be used to make Meth......... I could go on forever using their logic.
 

frozenlead

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For the last god#$%@ time, torrents are NOT ALL ILLEGAL. The only illegal thing that happens is when someone downloads something they DON'T have a license to own! (or have already bought)
 

captaincharisma

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hey this is just like Napster where it was a good tool for indie bands to advertise there band but the majority uploaded copyrighted material on there and got shut down. if the guys from piratebay get a win in court then this may pose a problem for the record industry
 

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How about we just get rid of the IRMA. What they are afraid of has nothing to do with piracy. They are afraid that the artists will develop a medium, a way, and a purpose to bypass them. Everyone knows that the Artists get very little from the actual sale of their music. The majority of their money comes from live performances. Music piracy is simply FREE advertising. I have yet to see any numbers (or studies) that prove piracy is hurting (monetarily) anything. Movies and Video Games are a different story. I can logically deduce that piracy is bad for them... but on the other hand... Video Games are making more money than ever and I believe that movies are too?... What's all the complaining about.
 

tenor77

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[citation][nom]frozenlead[/nom]For the last god#$%@ time, torrents are NOT ALL ILLEGAL. The only illegal thing that happens is when someone downloads something they DON'T have a license to own! (or have already bought)[/citation]

No they aren't and I don't think anyone implied otherwise. It's a great way to distribute content. That said I have a license to own Windows. That license does not give me the right to distribute, so if I uploaded the disk I just broke the law, making that torrent illegal.

Turn around, if I want to distribute my own freeware I do have permission and I give everyone else permission to distribute as long as it's free. This torrent = legal and lets me quickly distribute content without having to pay for servers. Everyone wins. I know you get this point, but you miss the first.
 

frozenlead

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[citation][nom]tenor77[/nom]No they aren't and I don't think anyone implied otherwise. ... That license does not give me the right to distribute, so if I uploaded the disk I just broke the law, making that torrent illegal.[/citation]

But the music industry is trying to block ALL torrents, implying that ALL of them are illegal, which is not the case.

And - I'm not really sure on this, so please correct me if I'm wrong - I don't think it's illegal to distribute the content of Windows itself (the data files) but it's definitly illegal to distribute your key. It's like if I download a Windows OEM ISO so that I can restore my computer and use the key that came with it to activate it - that's not illegal. On the upload side though, I'm not sure. You could be right.
 

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Eh everyone likes to stop innovation for profit... i really wonder how many diseases could have been cured already but were bought out by the pharmacy companies who wants to keep selling the temporary expensive treatments drugs just so they can keep people paying for the rest of their lives.

Another example is the Ford EV1, look it up.
 

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[citation][nom]Aethm[/nom]How about we just get rid of the IRMA. ... They are afraid that the artists will develop a medium, a way, and a purpose to bypass them.[/citation]

I agree. The U.S. has laws against cartels, yet somehow the big music company's are allowed to create organizations like the RIAA? I fail to see how the RIAA isn't anti-competitive. You either do what they say or they sue you, sounds monopolistic to me.

Class-action for individuals against corporations is good. Class-action for corporations against individuals is an affront to justice.
 

falchard

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Blocking BitTorrents will cost Game companies and HD Movie Sites millions. Its a pretty stupid move for the movie industry since those entities will sue their asses off for anti-compete.
 
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What if arkitects, carpenters and painters did the same stunt the music industry is. Then we'd have to pay entrance fee's for using our own houses. (Please excuse my bad english)
 

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It will take a few months to come up with a better distribution method and some tinkering with existing protocols, and then the new BitTorrent2 will make sure the whole cycle starts anew. First trickling, then developing into a steady flow, and then a tidal wave to wash down the whole system again. The fools don't understand you can't ban technology, sitting there with their outdated business models, waving their fat fingers. Ride the wave, instead of opposing it and going down with the ship.
 

kewl munky

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So that would mean Linux could no longer be distributed via torrent, nor any other legal software.

Tenor77 hit home with his response.
 

danimal_the_animal

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I use bit torrent to get copies of Ubuntu, and other Linux distributions.....to hell with the music industry...i hope they go bankrupt....freedom of speech....yeah right...the charge people to listen...this is the land of the FEE not the free.....I'll be damned if they block my Linux torrents(which are free to the public)
 
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